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Gbucket
03-01-2005, 08:15 AM
C&p'd out of the manual:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Supported OS: Windowsâ® XP/2000
Processor: Pentiumâ® III 1.4 GHz or AMD Athlonâ"ž˘ 1.4 GHz or faster (Pentium IV 2.0 GHz or AMD Athlon 2.0GHz or faster recommended)
RAM: 512 MB (1 GB recommended)
Video Card: 64 MB DirectXâ® 9-compliant graphics card (128 MB DirectX 9-compliant card recommended) (see supported list*)
Sound Card: DirectX 9-compliant PCI card
DirectX Version: DirectX 9 or later (included on disc)
DVD-ROM: 4x DVD-ROM drive or faster (DVD-ROM only)
Hard Drive Space: 2 GB

*Supported Cards at Time of Release
NVIDIAâ® GeForceâ"ž˘ 3/4/FX series with the exception of MX series cards ATIâ® Radeonâ"ž˘ 8500/9000 family cards or newer
These chipsets are the only ones that will run this game. Additional chipsets may be supported after release. For an up-to-date list of supported chipsets, please visit the FAQ for this game on our support website at: http://support.ubi.com.
NOTICE: This game contains technology intended to prevent copying that may conflict with some disc and virtual drives. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gbucket
03-01-2005, 08:15 AM
C&p'd out of the manual:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Supported OS: Windowsâ® XP/2000
Processor: Pentiumâ® III 1.4 GHz or AMD Athlonâ"ž˘ 1.4 GHz or faster (Pentium IV 2.0 GHz or AMD Athlon 2.0GHz or faster recommended)
RAM: 512 MB (1 GB recommended)
Video Card: 64 MB DirectXâ® 9-compliant graphics card (128 MB DirectX 9-compliant card recommended) (see supported list*)
Sound Card: DirectX 9-compliant PCI card
DirectX Version: DirectX 9 or later (included on disc)
DVD-ROM: 4x DVD-ROM drive or faster (DVD-ROM only)
Hard Drive Space: 2 GB

*Supported Cards at Time of Release
NVIDIAâ® GeForceâ"ž˘ 3/4/FX series with the exception of MX series cards ATIâ® Radeonâ"ž˘ 8500/9000 family cards or newer
These chipsets are the only ones that will run this game. Additional chipsets may be supported after release. For an up-to-date list of supported chipsets, please visit the FAQ for this game on our support website at: http://support.ubi.com.
NOTICE: This game contains technology intended to prevent copying that may conflict with some disc and virtual drives. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dominicrigg
03-01-2005, 08:16 AM
Will this run on my computer?

Gbucket
03-01-2005, 08:30 AM
Errr, if your computer specs match, or are better than, the above specs I guess so..

Ben0303
03-01-2005, 08:37 AM
nice 1 UbiRazz =)

sav112
03-01-2005, 08:57 AM
Any word in the manual about maximum resolution in the game?

I seem to find the same old info on specs but nothing on this.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Gbucket
03-01-2005, 09:07 AM
Nothing about max res, sorry m8. I'll let you know as soon as I get my mitts on a copy (later this week) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BlueSabor
03-01-2005, 09:46 AM
Thanks for the info:
UbiRazz http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Shado2k2
03-01-2005, 10:56 AM
Thanks for the Specs UbiRazz, the one thing that still has me a little worried though are the words in the brackets (DVD-ROM only) and NOTICE: This game contains technology intended to prevent copying that may conflict with some disc and virtual drives..

I know there has been a lot of discussion as to the media type and copy protection but maybe you can help me, I have a Sony DVD R/RW read/writer will this be ok or do I have to get a DVD read only drive.
If you cant answer this one i understand

Many thanks in advance.

ivoloos
03-01-2005, 12:04 PM
Thanks UbiRazz!

But:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>NVIDIAâ® GeForceâ"ž˘ 3/4/FX series with the exception of MX series cards ATIâ® Radeonâ"ž˘ 8500/9000 family cards or newer <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
This might sound a little weird...
I understand that GeForce 3/4/FX or newer (except MX) and ATI-based cards newer than 8500/9000 are supported.

And<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>NOTICE: This game contains technology intended to prevent copying that may conflict with some disc and virtual drives. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>keeps worrying me a little, though.

JG27_Arklight
03-01-2005, 12:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ivoloos:
Thanks UbiRazz!

But:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>NVIDIAâ® GeForceâ"ž˘ 3/4/FX series with the exception of MX series cards ATIâ® Radeonâ"ž˘ 8500/9000 family cards or newer <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
This might sound a little weird...
I understand that GeForce 3/4/FX or newer (except MX) and ATI-based cards newer than 8500/9000 are supported.

And<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>NOTICE: This game contains technology intended to prevent copying that may conflict with some disc and virtual drives. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>keeps worrying me a little, though. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I think it comes with StarForce copy protection.

I could be wrong though.

Florent1968
03-01-2005, 12:20 PM
And Windows 98 SE ?

Shado2k2
03-01-2005, 12:30 PM
Thanks Arklight, I understand the need to rightly protect their property as well as disable virtual drive software which as we know is what Starforce does.
If at the end of the day I have to buy a dvd rom then I will, but it would be nice to know and to be prepared for the launch.

ivoloos
03-01-2005, 12:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG27_Arklight:
I think it comes with StarForce copy protection.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I must confess that I'm not very known with all of the used copy protection methods/technologies.

Delfin1941
03-01-2005, 01:10 PM
What kind of computer do you need to run the game with all settings to maximum detail??!

I have a AMD Barton 2500 (1.83Ghz processor)
1.0GB AZEN RAM pc2700.
256MB Sapphire Radeon 9600 Video Card.
16x LG DVD Rom, & 52x32x52 CD burner
and a huge 120GB Hard-drive

current resolution on my TFT is set to 1280x1024

Will it run well ?

necrobaron
03-01-2005, 01:45 PM
I think I'm in pretty good shape as I comply with all the recommended settings except for RAM. I only have 512MB of RAM, so that has me a bit worried. This is one reason why I'd like to see a demo so we could at least get an idea of how SH will perform and look on our comps.

banzai_alex
03-01-2005, 02:02 PM
Ubi Razz or someone else pleaz answer this:

I recently bought a relatively budget Dell 8400 computer last summer. I believe (since my dad got it) that it came with the default specs. Can someone with more technical skill than me pleaz tell me if these meet the min? Most games i can play on max, like the demo for SW: RC if that helps at all.

banzai_alex
03-01-2005, 02:04 PM
also, even if i have to play it at minimum specs it wont be blocks right?!? It will just be pretty but not as near photorealism correct? (it wont be the best of graphics but it will still be good?) The specs might tell one of u guys. Pleaz help me here, kids cant do everything!!!

Gbucket
03-01-2005, 02:13 PM
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/dimen_8400?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn&~tab=specstab#tabtop

Is that it, Alex?

If so, that's more than enough to play the game.

sav112
03-01-2005, 03:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by UbiRazz:
Nothing about max res, sorry m8. I'll let you know as soon as I get my mitts on a copy (later this week) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Very much appreciated

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Shado2k2
03-01-2005, 03:18 PM
banzai_alex Two posts in a row, dont you think your spending to much time here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif j/k

Hope you dont mind but I ran your system specs through the Uber SHIII system spec Calculator.

Heres the results.
Here (http://www.games-for-pc.com/ARCADE/Images/SubmarineS-LLOGO.jpg) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

TASKFORCE1x1
03-01-2005, 03:53 PM
Ahh The specks. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Well my pc's I built a year ago still will run this sim. I just got a new Gforce card so that will help a bit! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

banzai_alex
03-01-2005, 04:04 PM
I just checked it myself, but thanks for trying http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I didnt know there were choices. Im okay with the processor by alot (I have 3.0 ghz or watevr) and a Radeon X300 series with a secondary. Does anyone know if the X300 meets it? (or at least if its newer?)

Messervy
03-01-2005, 05:11 PM
X300 is a low end of the new line of cards from ATI. It should do it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Shan_Hackett
03-01-2005, 05:24 PM
Verdammt!
UbiSoft has alot of to answer for. Who the dickens has a DVD-ROM Only drive!? (Apart from the PC Geeks, and Guru's.)

As explained on another thread;
I recently purchased a DVD-RW (Before the UbiSofts' announcement of possible copy-right incompatabilities with DVD-RW drives.)

Having placed my order with Ubi E-Store, for the the coverted recognition manual, and already being billed for it on the 16th Jan. (Thats another gripe altogether, seeing as how at the time of payment SH3 was still in Beta Phase.)
I now face a dilema!
Wait and see if my DVD-RW is compatable, or... Against my better judgement. (I should have just quit, there and then, but the subject matter, for which i have spent a lifetime researching, got the better of my sences.) Buy a second DVD (Only) Drive. Which to say the least, is predominatley for the sole use with SH3.

After weighing up the ludicrous situation;
"Wait and see if current drive works, and if not, wait upto another week (Or longer depending if DVD Only drives are in stock (I've looked. They are going out of Fashion)"

Or...
" Premptive, and buy now, incase of incompatability issues, then sell later..."

So i found yet another reasonably priced DVD Only drive (DVD-R), and purchased it...2 working days delivery. Well intime for March 18th.

My workstation is rapidly looking like the cockpit of the space shuttle, with masses of redundancy systems. I emphasize the word Redundancy. All for the pursuit of a game...
Anyone know a good Shrink! I'm going to need one after the dust settles...

BONFLECK
03-01-2005, 05:53 PM
THIS SUCKS,
I've been diligently following the development of this game fot the last 14 months! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif FOURTEEN MONTHS! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif Now instead of being able to get excited to play all I have to look forward to is grabbing my ankles and ponying up some serious $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for a system that will play it. Will there be a version for x-box or perhaps PS3 later this year or ever? That would be at least somewhat economical and would probably multiply sales exponentially! I know i've mentioned this in previous threads but I never got an answer from anyone with official status. (Hmmmm dramatic sales increase and market share! Something to think about chief business type person at UBI http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif) The last thing I want to do is flush several hundred dollars upgrading a system that gets more obsolete by the minute. Please forgive me as i'm sure I am coming across like a total ***** crybaby.

Dominicrigg
03-01-2005, 06:17 PM
Yup, if you had been nicer i bet someone would have bought you alienware for the game. Now you have no chance!!



Will this game run on my computer?

blue_76
03-01-2005, 07:02 PM
its unfortunate that the game will run on dvd-rom drive only... there are many people who have dvd-rw drives or cd-rom. this puts them in a difficult situation.. oh well.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Dominicrigg
03-01-2005, 07:15 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif Im going to depth charge you all!!!

It WILL Work on Writers ect, it has problems with copy software, dont panic, stop causing panic calm and breath!!!

They would not release a dvd which doesnt work on 80% of peoples machines. and if they do they will sort it out (like with sid meirs Pirates!) its not legal to make a product which doesnt work on dvd players ok!

:P chill boys!

Shan_Hackett
03-01-2005, 07:16 PM
"Difficult!?"
If this was any other game, i would just cut my losses, but i've done the dutiful Capitalist thing, and spent extra ontop of the normal upgrading, one fairly expects to do, to run the next gen' of gaming software.

All i can say is;
Silent Hunter 3 better Not stink!

BobV_07
03-01-2005, 07:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shado2k2:
banzai_alex Two posts in a row, dont you think your spending to much time here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif j/k

Hope you dont mind but I ran your system specs through the Uber SHIII system spec Calculator.

Heres the results.
http://www.games-for-pc.com/ARCADE/Images/SubmarineS-LLOGO.jpg http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


LOL, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://adjunct.diodon349.com/photopoint/0037/0046.jpg

BobV_07
03-01-2005, 07:58 PM
UbiRazz, Thank you very much for the info! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif So, you get to sink your teeth into a copy next week. Cool! Well, if you can rip your self away from playing SH3 for a moment, post your thoughts if you could. Thanks.

http://adjunct.diodon349.com/photopoint/0037/0046.jpg

archer49d
03-01-2005, 08:00 PM
Will an nVidia Geforce 4 440 Go model with 64 megs of memory be able to run this game? I noticed that it supports all nVidia except MX, since my specialization in graphics is mostly CAD related I'm not a whiz on nVidia cards.

BobV_07
03-01-2005, 08:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dominicrigg:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif Im going to depth charge you all!!!

It WILL Work on Writers ect, it has problems with copy software, dont panic, stop causing panic calm and breath!!!

They would not release a dvd which doesnt work on 80% of peoples machines. and if they do they will sort it out (like with sid meirs Pirates!) its not legal to make a product which doesnt work on dvd players ok!

:P chill boys! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I could not have said it better then Dominicrigg. Dominicrigg, you hit the nail on the head! There has been mention of Starforce copy protection for SH3. It would be my guess that is what they used on SH3. Starforce copy protection is copy protection with a mean streak! You can't bypass it, so thats why I think they might have used it. But I would not worry about it. I have two different do-it-all DVD players that play Enigma: Rising Tide just fine which uses starforce copy protection.

http://adjunct.diodon349.com/photopoint/0037/0046.jpg

BobV_07
03-01-2005, 08:30 PM
Yeah, I know! I've made alot of posts on this thread and this is my first one that i have read. Hehehe http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif


http://adjunct.diodon349.com/photopoint/0037/0046.jpg

BobV_07
03-01-2005, 08:31 PM
Boooo! Hehe http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

archer49d
03-01-2005, 08:50 PM
What exactly occurs when your DVD-RW can't get past the copy protection, because when I tried installing Enigma Rising Tide the other day on my Laptop I would click install and nothing would happen, the Autorun came up no problem though.

BobV_07
03-01-2005, 09:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by archer49d:
What exactly occurs when your DVD-RW can't get past the copy protection, because when I tried installing Enigma Rising Tide the other day on my Laptop I would click install and nothing would happen, the Autorun came up no problem though. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Hmmm, interesting. Have you tried to install it again lately? Sometimes just rebooting your PC will fix problems.
Have you tried updating your video card drivers?
If you have done all the above things that I have mentioned then if possible try borrowing a cd-rom or dvd player from a friend that is a different brand then the one you got now and try installing it again with the different player. Hope this helps.


Best Regards
Bob

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Dominicrigg
03-01-2005, 09:54 PM
As far as i know archer, thats the copy protection. It makes it so the dvd wont be read in your driver. Uninstall all dvd copy software and then it will work. If you dont have any then your laptop just is dodgy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BobV_07
03-01-2005, 10:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dominicrigg:
As far as i know archer, thats the copy protection. It makes it so the dvd wont be read in your driver. Uninstall all dvd copy software and then it will work. If you dont have any then your laptop just is dodgy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I'm using Nero Burn 6.6 and I have no problems at all. Although it might have a problem with Alcohol 120 or CloneCD. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif PC's can be a real pain in the butt! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

http://adjunct.diodon349.com/photopoint/0037/0046.jpg

archer49d
03-01-2005, 10:38 PM
Well I just made a joke out of Starforce... all I did was install in safe mode and everything works perfectly, opposed to regular mode where I am told the StarForce protection was kicking in... Take that!

Poacher886a
03-01-2005, 10:43 PM
I would prefer to know what is required to run this game on max!
To all the people moaning about having to upgrade their Pc's,if you want to play the latest games as their ment to be,you have to upgrade every year or so,that's the price for playing the latest technology!
As it is, we could be playing far better games(quality)if they did'nt have to make them for a minimum spec!
So as much as you low spec guy's get anoyed about having to upgrade to play,decent spec guy's will get anoyed about there,there hard spent money not being used to the max.

BobV_07
03-01-2005, 11:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by archer49d:
Well I just made a joke out of Starforce... all I did was install in safe mode and everything works perfectly, opposed to regular mode where I am told the StarForce protection was kicking in... Take that! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OK, try to make a copy of the disk! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
And that would lead me to believe that you are having some sort of a driver or softwear conflict with the game. But, I'm glad that you got it running. Its not a bad game to play wile passing the time away until SH3 release. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

http://adjunct.diodon349.com/photopoint/0037/0046.jpg

archer49d
03-01-2005, 11:08 PM
Copying disks is actually doable, there are detailed instructions on a very popular site on the subject, it was installation that was proving to be difficult. I'm not going to talk more about making copies of disks on here though because I'm not sure what can and can't be said.

BobV_07
03-01-2005, 11:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by archer49d:
Copying disks is actually doable, there are detailed instructions on a very popular site on the subject, it was installation that was proving to be difficult. I'm not going to talk more about making copies of disks on here though because I'm not sure what can and can't be said. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, UbiRazz dose not like that sort of talk! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


http://adjunct.diodon349.com/photopoint/0037/0046.jpg

MBeck
03-02-2005, 01:05 AM
SH3 will use Starforce.

The problem is this:
You cannot install if you use "hacker" copy software. (I think clonecd falls under this)
You cannot install if you use virtual drive software. (Nero-with virtual drive enabled, Alcohol 120% etc)

Other than that you should OK.

diveplane
03-02-2005, 04:16 AM
just ordered a whole new system,

p4 3gig processor, pci express 256mb radeon video card sata 160 gig hd, 1 gig memory ,
and a very nice case to sling the parts in
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
http://www.gen-x-pc.com/xnavigator_case_detail.htm

Messervy
03-02-2005, 04:23 AM
Very nice case. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Copperhead_SG
03-02-2005, 07:49 AM
http://img207.exs.cx/img207/7334/toilet11jf.jpg

Who needs the pause button? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

BobV_07
03-02-2005, 07:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by diveplane:
just ordered a whole new system,

p4 3gig processor, pci express 256mb radeon video card sata 160 gig hd, 1 gig memory ,
and a very nice case to sling the parts in
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
http://www.gen-x-pc.com/xnavigator_case_detail.htm <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Cool! You will love it! That SATA drive is awesome. I just put one in my machine a few weeks ago and I can say they are FAST!



http://adjunct.diodon349.com/photopoint/0037/0046.jpg

JG27_Arklight
03-02-2005, 09:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BobV_07:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dominicrigg:
As far as i know archer, thats the copy protection. It makes it so the dvd wont be read in your driver. Uninstall all dvd copy software and then it will work. If you dont have any then your laptop just is dodgy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I'm using Nero Burn 6.6 and I have no problems at all. Although it might have a problem with Alcohol 120 or CloneCD. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif PC's can be a real pain in the butt! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

http://adjunct.diodon349.com/photopoint/0037/0046.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I installed ERT on my DVD-RW drive and I have CloneCD (the trial version right now).

No issues.

JG27_Arklight
03-02-2005, 09:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Poacher886:
I would prefer to know what is required to run this game on max!
To all the people moaning about having to upgrade their Pc's,if you want to play the latest games as their ment to be,you have to upgrade every year or so,that's the price for playing the latest technology!
As it is, we could be playing far better games(quality)if they did'nt have to make them for a minimum spec!
So as much as you low spec guy's get anoyed about having to upgrade to play,decent spec guy's will get anoyed about there,there hard spent money not being used to the max. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yep.

archer49d
03-02-2005, 12:36 PM
From what I've heard is that Starforce will be making a patch of rus Win X64 users to bypass their software since their drivers (which are ILLEGAL anyway) can't install onto a 64-bit system.

banzai_alex
03-02-2005, 01:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Messervy:
X300 is a low end of the new line of cards from ATI. It should do it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.... That all i need to know. As long as its newer than wat UbiRazz http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif said im fine. THANK YOU http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

ViperU48
03-02-2005, 05:37 PM
It would certainly be nice to know the specs of the cpu's that produce those videos/trailers for SHIII.

Would give us a nice guideline in case we want to upgrade.


Thanks for the general info UbiRazz!

matteo1980
03-03-2005, 01:41 AM
Hi everybody!
I have a Pentium IV 1.5 Ghz
Ram:256 Mb
Video card:Matrox Millennium
Cd-rom: LG 16x
Hard disk 15 Gb

Do you think It will run good on my pc?

I have seen the trailer and the other new videos and it's really GOOD!!!!
Many compliments to the development team!

Hi everybody!
Teo

Messervy
03-03-2005, 02:01 AM
Bad news!
No it won`t. You won`t even be able to install the game. Sorry.

Sheepdip82
03-03-2005, 05:59 AM
Starforce is one of (if not then it IS) the most irritating copy protection systems around. Several games I have use it, and it takes at least 2 minutes "checking my disk" before it lets me play. Not to mention the fact that it may demand I uninstall Alcohol 120, the CD/DVD-r software I use.

Lets hope not to have too many problems!

Hi btw http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LanceHawkins
03-03-2005, 07:09 AM
I'll be the odd one out, I'm very happy that SHIII comes on DVD, and not CD.

I'm tired of having to swap X number of CDs when I install games, I prefer just slipping one DVD into the computer, and going from there.

ĂËśystein

Dominicrigg
03-03-2005, 07:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Messervy:
Bad news!
No it won`t. You won`t even be able to install the game. Sorry. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

lmao

diveplane
03-03-2005, 08:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BobV_07:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by diveplane:
just ordered a whole new system,

p4 3gig processor, pci express 256mb radeon video card sata 160 gig hd, 1 gig memory ,
and a very nice case to sling the parts in
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
http://www.gen-x-pc.com/xnavigator_case_detail.htm <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Cool! You will love it! That SATA drive is awesome. I just put one in my machine a few weeks ago and I can say they are FAST!



http://adjunct.diodon349.com/photopoint/0037/0046.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yea sata drives are awesome,other good points are the cables are tiny and thin , which
is great for cooling and airflow inside the system, as for my new graphics, pci express is the next generation bus type too, up to 16x
speed, faster than agp now....

tradish
03-03-2005, 09:05 AM
My PC is:

Pentium IV 2.0 GHz
1 Gig of RAM (400 MHz)
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
Sony 44x DVD
120 Gig HD

Hope it will run ok.

GertFroebe
03-03-2005, 11:29 AM
Mine is:
P4 3.2 GHz
1 GB RAM (CL2)
nVidia GF FX 5950 Ultra

And I will not have Pixelshader 3.0 and I don't care!

Hertston
03-03-2005, 01:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shado2k2:
Thanks Arklight, I understand the need to rightly protect their property as well as disable virtual drive software which as we know is what Starforce does.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unfortunately, what many of us who have also purchased games with this form of protection also know is that Starforce can mess up real hardware too. I'm praying this is a new version, but a previous one was completely incompatible with my CD burner - I nearly replaced it as I didn't even know Starforce had dug into my system.

I'm going to buy the game anyway, but this is really depressing news. If you experience problems with your drives, you know where to look, and don't forget just uninstalling the game isn't enough to get rid of the bloody thing.

There is a removal tool available around the net if you need it (NOT a crack, it just gets rid of Starforce after you have uninstalled whichever game installed it).

KiwiVenge
03-03-2005, 02:32 PM
Wow, thats amazing! You mean to say they send a program that 'digs itself' into your computer and can screw a perfectly good (and legal hardware/software) even after said program has been uninstalled!!
That is shocking and I would be willing to boycot games that use this. That is totally unacceptable in my opinion.
I hate to jump to conclusions, as I have never had problems running programs on my DVD (Lite-On DVDRW LDW-4515)
But if I had the above (look one post up) problem happen to me, I would go balistic and do whatever I could to counter such lack of respect for the gamer.

diveplane
03-03-2005, 03:00 PM
as said before, sad thing is these star force
protectors are no use really,its just a matter off time before it gets cracked...

maybe delay crack pros , never beat them...

Shado2k2
03-03-2005, 03:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>here is a removal tool available around the net if you need it (NOT a crack, it just gets rid of Starforce after you have uninstalled whichever game installed it). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep Codemasters, one of the pioneers of this software protection themselves host a starforce remover, however it doesnt work a 100%, your better off using a third party util to do the job properly.

Hertston
03-03-2005, 03:21 PM
Starforce (http://www.star-force.com) is a particular product, not a generic term.

It is actually a very effective form of protection, albeit not as effective as its developers like to make out. There is a price though, which is the undesirable side-effects it can have in a minority of cases... publishers weigh up the complaints against better copy protection and go for what they think will most benefit the bottom line.

My own problems were with a previous version of Starforce, and may well have been fixed. I'm just giving folks a friendly warning as to where to look if they do experience any problems.

Philipscdrw
03-03-2005, 06:47 PM
I suppose that it it will always be impossible to stop the true pro crackers (crackheads? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) from making copies - but Starforce et. al. will prevent Tom from giving quick copies to his mates, D!ck and Harry, i.e. preventing 'casual' piracy...

BobV_07
03-03-2005, 08:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by oysteint:
I'll be the odd one out, I'm very happy that SHIII comes on DVD, and not CD.

I'm tired of having to swap X number of CDs when I install games, I prefer just slipping one DVD into the computer, and going from there.

ĂËśystein <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Much agreed! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

http://adjunct.diodon349.com/photopoint/0037/0046.jpg

BobV_07
03-03-2005, 08:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KiwiVenge:
Wow, thats amazing! You mean to say they send a program that 'digs itself' into your computer and can screw a perfectly good (and legal hardware/software) even after said program has been uninstalled!!
That is shocking and I would be willing to boycot games that use this. That is totally unacceptable in my opinion.
I hate to jump to conclusions, as I have never had problems running programs on my DVD (Lite-On DVDRW LDW-4515)
But if I had the above (look one post up) problem happen to me, I would go balistic and do whatever I could to counter such lack of respect for the gamer. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just picked up a Lite-on DVD combo burner drive and it has no problems with starforce protection.

http://adjunct.diodon349.com/photopoint/0037/0046.jpg

KiwiVenge
03-03-2005, 09:37 PM
Thats good news!

Lipfert_5JG52
03-03-2005, 11:01 PM
I will not purchase any product that uses Star-Force.

It's intrusive and an insult to my Privacy.

Be advised that if you do purchase this product and try to install it, you've already opened it and will not be able to return it if it does not install. Tell your retailer and have him put it on your receipt.

So be careful before you throw your money at these people, you may not get it back when it does not perform.

My burner is not even on my gaming machine, so how stupid is a product like this anyway? What they weren't smart enough to figure out most gamers have more than one computer?

I'm also sure this type of scanning is against Privacy Law's in Canada, not sure about the USA or Europe, but I'd be very surprised if forcing a customer to submit to an audit of Software / Hardware (or whatever else they search for on "YOUR" computer).

UBIRazz, since Star-Force as a company won't even answer questions until you sign an NDA, perhap's you can tell me if they collect the Data from the Scan review? Are they going to start lawsuits like the Music Industry?

Am I mad about this! Your **** right, who do you think you are attacking my Privacy rights in the name of Piracy protection?

And by the way, I DO own all the 35 games I have on my computer......

DarkzeroPrime
03-04-2005, 01:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Processor: Pentiumâ® III 1.4 GHz or AMD Athlonâ"ž˘ 1.4 GHz or faster (Pentium IV 2.0 GHz or AMD Athlon 2.0GHz or faster recommended)
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Do they mean Athlon 2.0 GHz or Athlon 2000+? There's a big difference.

Gbucket
03-04-2005, 02:39 AM
That's actually a very, very good question. I have no idea. I would assume it meant an Athlon 2400 (which is 2Ghz-ish?)

hauitsme
03-04-2005, 03:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Amuro622:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Processor: Pentiumâ® III 1.4 GHz or AMD Athlonâ"ž˘ 1.4 GHz or faster (Pentium IV 2.0 GHz or AMD Athlon 2.0GHz or faster recommended)
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Do they mean Athlon 2.0 GHz or Athlon 2000+? There's a big difference. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It's been established from the beginning that when the speed is stated for a game, it's the 'perceived' speed of the Athlon, NOT the 'actual'. That goes for any comparisons. So that 2.0GHz Athlon IS THE SAME AS THE 2000+ Athlon, which is the 'perceived' speed of the P4 2.0GHz.

Bulwark_
03-04-2005, 05:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hertston:
http://www.star-force.com is a particular product, not a generic term.

It is actually a very effective form of protection, albeit not as effective as its developers like to make out. There is a price though, which is the undesirable side-effects it can have in a minority of cases... publishers weigh up the complaints against better copy protection and go for what they think will most benefit the bottom line.

My own problems were with a previous version of Starforce, and may well have been fixed. I'm just giving folks a friendly warning as to where to look if they do experience any problems. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sorry about this guys, I don't mean to beat this topic to death. I've been trying to follow along with this whole protection thing. But I'm just not really sure how exactly it works. Does Star Force actually install something on my computer? If Ubi wants to protect their software, I don't blame them for wanting to use the best. But after, err... many years of computer experience (not as much as some of you old fogies), there are certain programs I don't like having on my system. Especially those that run in the background, or ones that send information to specific recipients which no one really knows who "they" are. So as beaten to death this protection topic is... my question, does Star Force actually install some type of spyware or a TSR of some sort? Although I have no intention of copying any software, it would invade my privacy, and I think XP does that enough as it is. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

BlitzPig_Rivet
03-04-2005, 03:19 PM
Well guys, as regards Starforce copy protection, you can go here for a bit more info:

http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/48427

It doesn't make for re-assuring reading.

Copy Protection in one form or another has been standard fare for a long time and is to be expected, but if I'd known about SH3 (allegedly) using this dubious c**p, then I'd probably have thought twice about pre-ordering it, amazing as it undoubtedly will be.

If the information from the above link is correct, and archer49d's solution doesn't happen to work on this particular product, I'm afraid I won't be playing the sim until I find something that does work.

KiwiVenge
03-04-2005, 06:57 PM
This is a problem for me, I am thinking I may try to get out of my pre order.
How sure are we about SH3 using this protection software?

Okumiya
03-04-2005, 09:58 PM
ok , who's in charge here , i see four pages of this stuff and no answers, who's the top dog here. if no one can get an answer to this copy question i'm thinking twice of buying this sim ,
just got rid of spyware months ago and don't want any **** on my computer , and i'm sure not going to buy any hidden **** that runs in back ground of my computer , who's in charge here???

Okumiya
03-04-2005, 09:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Okumiya:
ok , who's in charge here , i see four pages of this stuff and no answers, who's the top dog here. if no one can get an answer to this copy question i'm thinking twice of buying this sim ,
just got rid of spyware months ago and don't want any **** on my computer , and i'm sure not going to buy any hidden **** that runs in back ground of my computer , who's in charge here??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

CR_AP cr_ap

KiwiVenge
03-04-2005, 10:27 PM
Heh, ya I have been caught with that too. Horse dung and beaver houses aren't allowed here. rofl
And yes, I just had a round with some spyware that got so deep into my pc that I had to re install my OS.

Okumiya
03-04-2005, 11:37 PM
for your next invasion , you can get everything you need to help rid of this junk low life no good for nothing scum , losers spyware , It's my computer, http://www.majorgeeks.com/
ok great i'm watching the news of ID theft, over internet ,

Bulwark_
03-05-2005, 01:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BlitzPig_Rivet:
Well guys, as regards Starforce copy protection, you can go here for a bit more info:

http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/48427

It doesn't make for re-assuring reading.

Copy Protection in one form or another has been standard fare for a long time and is to be expected, but if I'd known about SH3 (allegedly) using this dubious c**p, then I'd probably have thought twice about pre-ordering it, amazing as it undoubtedly will be.

If the information from the above link is correct, and archer49d's solution doesn't happen to work on this particular product, I'm afraid I won't be playing the sim until I find something that _does_ work. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you very much for that link BlitzPig, it was a shocking read. It's unfortuante that the game world had to come to this. The worst part about the article is: it's actually from a reliable source.

Regrettably if that is the case and this protection is employed on the SH3 dvd, there's a pretty good chance I won't make the purchase. Nothing against Ubisoft or the sim, I was quite looking forward to it. I recently formatted with a clean install of XP, and do not want to contaminate my system with unnecessary device drivers. Especially when from the article, you're sometimes not advised about their installation and they remain hidden. And getting rid of those device drivers may produce unfavourable results. For those of you who have not read the article, it's not that long and I highly recommend it for those that are curious.

Could someone, possibly from the dev team, please clarify whether or not that is the protection used? Thanks.

BlitzPig_Rivet
03-05-2005, 05:24 AM
You're welcome Bulwark. What irks me most about the whole thing is that after you uninstall the application that installed sf in the first place, sf still remains behind affecting your machine. Broadband reports state that a third party utility is needed to remove Starforce completely. Unfortunately the link appears to be broken.

Third party? Hmmm, it seems like the makers of Starforce don't want you to remove their software once it's on your machine.

However, I did find a so-called removal tool from Codemaster's site. Here's an extract from the site:

Download: StarForce Removal Tool
File Type: Utility
File Size: 16.7 Kb

Date Uploaded: 13 September 2004

Description
This tool provides automatic uninstallation of StarForce drivers and removes all StarForce registry keys from the system.

Technical Description
Unzip the file then double click on sfclean.exe to remove Starforce from your PC.

Well, apparently it does not do exactly what it says in the description. Here's an unwitting victim's comments from the following link:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/lite/t-97861-p-3.html

"After completely uninstalling ToCa Race Driver 2, rebooting, then running the "StarForce Removal Tool" from CodeMaster's own website (put there because of this scandal) and then rebooting several more times and re-running the removal tool, the virus remains..."

Hmm, so it appears we can forget the sfclean.exe method then.

Never fear. There is another removal tool. It's called sfdrvrem.exe. Hooray all our problems are over - but wait.........

It appears that this removal tool is developed by, er, the developers of Starforce itself. Umm ............. here's the link.

http://www.onlinesecurity-on.com/protect.phtml?c=55

Again it makes for interesting reading, but ask yourselves this - would you trust a company who developed a nefarious piece of software that sneaks its way onto your machine (designed not to be removed), to supply you with a reliable removal utility?

It still doesn't look good does it?

In this world of software piracy, I understand completely the need for software houses to try to protect their work. They are producing a sellable product. Software pirates are stealing it. It's theft plain and simple. However, when the "protection" extends to damaging sh1te like SF it is the honest, legitimate purchasers of the product that uses SF who are made to suffer the consequenses, not the pirates.

Something stinks there don't you think?

We definately need clarification on whether SH3 uses Starforce protection or not. Please, anything but Starforce.

BlitzPig_Rivet

Okumiya
03-05-2005, 09:15 AM
so they are expecting me to buy and will fully install this cr-ap that took me a week to find and get rid of ?? HAHAHAHAAHAhahahahaha

long live silent hunter 2

Okumiya
03-05-2005, 09:23 AM
since we haven't heard a yes or no if they are using this junk i take it to mean yes they are. this will be on there product

they can't say no it's not,they can't say no just to sell a product and it turns out to be right

so the smart move for them is to not say anything at all

let us blow in the wind and buy this junk

then once they make a trip to the bank then admit this junk comes with there product.

it's easy to say your sorry once a deposit in the bank has been made.

KiwiVenge
03-05-2005, 11:49 AM
Hey Blitzpig, your posts on this topic are very informative. Would would mind checking out the "Starforce Opinions/knowledge" thread and sharing with us there as well.
I am going to cut and paste your latest post there. Hope ya don't mind. If you do, just let me know and I will delete it.

BlitzPig_Rivet
03-05-2005, 12:15 PM
KiwiVenge, no, I don't mind at all.

It's just that I didn't want to repeat myself in 2 or 3 other threads on the subject and I think I've said as much in those threads.

I'm glad you found my posts informative, however, it must be understood that I am only posting information on the subject that I have found elsewhere on the internet. I can in no way vouch for the reliability of the information, and as to my own views, well they are exactly that - my own.

Make of it what you will.

Regards
BlitzPig_Rivet

KiwiVenge
03-05-2005, 12:29 PM
Yup, I do understand you are passing this info on from where ever you found it. It is all any of us can do really. I am just thankful you and others did.
I would unknowingly and therefor happily installed SF on my computer if it was not for people passing info along.
Cheers Mate!

Mashiki_a
03-05-2005, 01:14 PM
Until someone get ahold of a DVD and scan's it no one will no what protection it is however. Unless someone from Ubi posts it. It could be starforce or it could be securom or safedisc as well. The other two do strange things in the new versions like interfering with virtual drives.

The two other copy protections(securom and safedisc) also do weird things like messing with virtual drives. I'm not saying this to be on Ubi's side by any means; I'm not a fan of any copy protection what so ever. It slows down the machine line exe's with calls that have to be interpreted by the copy protection and causes instability.

Always, you have ways to beat copy protection. If it becomes 20x harder to beat...it will take 20x longer to crack. Or someone getting an insperation to bypass it.

KiwiVenge
03-05-2005, 01:40 PM
I agree Mashiki_a, I just wish they would tell us if it is even being used.

Mashiki_a
03-05-2005, 03:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KiwiVenge:
I agree Mashiki_a, I just wish they would tell us if it is even being used. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>If they do, then it gives us some warning and impacts sales, especially the anti-SF people in the crowd. Something they don't want. However, as soon as the main warez groups get their hands on it we'll know anyway.

What recourse do those of us who have DVD-RW/CD-RW Combo drive's have? Or is the language used just 'bad' for a lack of a better term? It can be read in the drive, but the box wording implies that you have NO CD-ROM support.

It's all wait and see...and I hate that part.

archer49d
03-05-2005, 07:28 PM
To be honest I think Copy Protection does nothing... AutoCAD 2005, with all it's proffesional dektops costs in excess of $20,000, yet it's rather easy to get all of these by downloading them and cracking them. A $40 game on the other hand is just as vulnerable to this as AutoCAD, yet game companies continue to put copy-protection software on the game. When what they should do is just require activation of the software via an internet connection to their server the first time you run the game... Since even that can be faked now, I guess activation over the phone is the other option. Microsoft is using both of these methods and it has drastically cut down on the Piracy of Windows XP.

CB..
03-05-2005, 10:31 PM
when security and or copy protection measures start to prevent legitimate users of a game from being able to run the game then the whole thing has just plainly gotten way out of hand..
and in practice can only literally force normally respectfull gamers into have-ing to use illegitimate means in order to play the game they were in fact more than happy to buy legally....saturation point here we come http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

TigerOutlaw
03-06-2005, 11:43 AM
Irritation-Ware
Copy protection with a mean streak

Written by Karl Bode

Users in our forums have grown increasingly irritated with a new copy protection system dubbed Starforce. While stopping software piracy is the scheme's goal, the system instead causes system slowdowns, PC instability, device conflicts, is nearly impossible to remove manually, and remains long after you've uninstalled the software it came with.

Dubbed "cutting edge activation technology" by the product's creators, the software quietly installs device drivers without informing the user. Once installed, users can open Device Manager, click on "view" and then "show hidden devices" (Screenshot) to see their new uninvited house guests.

Once four different device drivers are installed, the software monitors your CD-drive to confirm you're using the original CD, while the system encrypts executable files, but also non-executable files included in the application. The software also collects system information and creates an error report should anything go wrong.

Plenty does.

Users report that the software gobbles up computing cycles, slows CD drive read-times, creates CD-R read errors even after removal, and is responsible for a number of device conflicts - particularly with external USB drives. Users who have tried to remove the product manually have often damaged their systems to the point of needing a fresh OS install.

If users aren't irritated by the system issues, the unannounced installation, or the privacy implications of such a program, they usually are bothered to learn that the drivers are not removed when a user removes the host application. Users also aren't alerted to the driver installation by the end-user license agreement present in most of the games that employ the protection technology.

Users have developed this cleanup utility to remove Starforce, though needless to say - users who remove the protection won't be playing the game they paid for, unless they do some digging. Ironically many users who loathe piracy are turning toward no-cd cracks or other cracking tools to play games they've plunked down hard-earned cash to enjoy.

"So ironic, i have never in my life been to one of these Warez sites before, until the bloody copy protection gets so virus/Nazi like i have to," complains a user at Gone Gold, a website dedicated to the latest PC game releases.

So does the system prevent piracy? From a quick glance, nearly every title that uses the protection scheme is cracked and available on torrent trackers, IRC, or Usenet. The latest game to employ the scheme, Soldiers: Heroes of World War 2, was released several weeks ago and the U.S. version has yet to be cracked - though several in the "scene" inform us it's expected this week.

Is a two week piracy delay worth wrecking the systems of potential customers?

Hertston
03-06-2005, 06:49 PM
Perhaps the "community manager" could let us know one way, or the other. If Starforce is being used, I would also like some comment from Ubi themselves about why, in view of the article reproduced above. I know that is accurate - I've been there.

KiwiVenge
03-06-2005, 08:09 PM
Only thing I can thing of is they are not going to give anyone the heads up on what copy protection they use, so as not to give the pirates a head start on what they will be up against.
Not sure if that is a valid point or not, I am just hazarding a guess.
I, like you, would like to know.

hakentt
03-06-2005, 10:51 PM
I got Nvidia 5800FX card 256mb. I hope its enough.

HelicalPropwash
03-07-2005, 05:15 AM
An interview with a "horses mouth" regarding Star-Force copy protection...

http://www.firingsquad.com/features/starforce_interview/page2.asp

RuKo3031973
03-07-2005, 11:18 AM
Hello everybody!

I've also ordered this uber game and looking forward to it. The movies, the german site you're on perfect, finally something different! But i've one question, i'm running on a pentium 3.0 computer, 1 giga intern, 9800 pro card, and i have only a NEC DVD_RW ND 2510A dvd drive. And i'm using daemon tools for running my home made movies.

Can i run the game without problems? I had to ask this because Broken Sword 3 wasn't loading at all, because i had installed deamon tools.

Please let me know.

Willey
03-07-2005, 07:17 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

s7e6e
03-08-2005, 12:53 AM
-1024x768 fixed resolution http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
-dinamic campaign
-eax 3.0

On my rig, the game will run ok, not perfect...do the math

U-443
03-08-2005, 03:19 PM
Hey Shado2k,were do you get that neat game?

matteo1980
03-09-2005, 01:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Messervy:
Bad news!
No it won`t. You won`t even be able to install the game. Sorry. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No! Why if you don't mind??

Messervy
03-09-2005, 08:27 AM
Because of the text in yellow:
----------------------------------------------
Ram:256 Mb
Video card:Matrox Millennium
<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Cd-rom: LG 16x</span>
Hard disk 15 Gb
----------------------------------------------

You need a DVD drive! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WhipFlash
03-10-2005, 02:30 PM
I've looked over all the previous replies and havn't seen anyone ask about the internet connection spec. I bring it up because I'm still at 56k. It sounds like I'll need to go to Broadband if I want to play on-line with fellow WPL friends. Because the internet connection spec. has not been brought before now, I'm thinking that 56k is pretty much the minority now.

Messervy
03-10-2005, 02:39 PM
Maybe you`ll be O.K. since there really isn`t to much of the data to be sent and recieved and everything works in much slower than FPS like Call of duty!
But this is just my uneducated guess.

vbal
03-10-2005, 03:23 PM
aah, stop complaining, it's just to buy a new computer if the one you got now is to bad http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

The time is so slow, and i whant get my copy sonner then the 21! I'm crying tears of blood! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

Badkarma666_507
03-10-2005, 11:35 PM
Does SH III works normally with 512mb RAM?

I hope so!!!!

Please answer!!!!

SH III: GREAT GAME!!!!

matteo1980
03-11-2005, 01:47 AM
Messervy quote:
Because of the text in yellow:
----------------------------------------------
Ram:256 Mb
Video card:Matrox Millennium
Cd-rom: LG 16x
Hard disk 15 Gb
----------------------------------------------

You need a DVD drive!


Infact it's my mistake!
My LG cd-rom IS a DVD-drive!
I wrote bad my spec!

Now that I know that it will run,
LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL!!!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Messervy
03-11-2005, 07:35 AM
Glad to hear it!

vbal
03-11-2005, 02:52 PM
Hope 512 Mb RAM can make the game too work smooth.. otherwise i have to bye 512 more http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

archer49d
03-11-2005, 08:35 PM
Or if your cheap (like me... sometimes) you can go into Task manager and shut everything down (including explorer) until your down to a load of 80 megs, the game should run fine on the 430 you'll have free then.

lusitania2005
03-12-2005, 05:23 AM
I have spent over âŁ400 on hardware for this game, do you think it will run smoothly on my computer?

I have a:

Windows XP
AMD Athlon 2200 mhz
1024mb RAM
Nvidia 6600 GT AGP
38 Gb disk space

vbal
03-12-2005, 06:28 AM
Yes, it's well enought! Thanks for the tip with the shuting down the programs! It's well worth a try at least http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Ukcatsbball21
03-12-2005, 06:23 PM
Will SHIII run good on my computer?
Processor Intel 4 3.0GHZ
RAM 512MB
Video Card 128 Radeon 9600 XT ATI
120Gbs
Windows XP

ny_coroner_05
03-12-2005, 06:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by banzai_alex:
also, even if i have to play it at minimum specs it wont be blocks right?!? It will just be pretty but not as near photorealism correct? (it wont be the best of graphics but it will still be good?) The specs might tell one of u guys. Pleaz help me here, kids cant do everything!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have a laptop with the following and half life 2 and faycry ran fine. You should be ok

posted Sat March 12 2005 17:13
Hi guys.

I have the following for a laptop. Give me your opinions on how this game will run.

AMD Athlonâ"ž˘ 64-bit 3400+ Mobile Processor
Operates at 2.2GHz
1MB L2 Cache
HyperTransportâ"ž˘ technology up to 1600MHz

1024MB DDR (2 x 512MB) SODIMM (PC2700)
ATI MOBILITYâ"ž˘ RADEONâ® 9550
64MB Video Memory
PC2001 Compliant AC '97 Audio
Hard Drive
80GB5

Optical Drive
DVD+/-RW, Multi-Format Double Layer

Write max: 8x DVD+/-R, 4x DVD+/-RW
24x CD-R and 10x CD-RW Disks
Reads max: 8x DVD-ROM Disks
24x CD-ROM Disks

Delfin1941
03-14-2005, 03:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BlitzPig_Rivet:
Well guys, as regards Starforce copy protection, you can go here for a bit more info:

http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/48427

It doesn't make for re-assuring reading.

Copy Protection in one form or another has been standard fare for a long time and is to be expected, but if I'd known about SH3 (allegedly) using this dubious c**p, then I'd probably have thought twice about pre-ordering it, amazing as it undoubtedly will be.

If the information from the above link is correct, and archer49d's solution doesn't happen to work on this particular product, I'm afraid I won't be playing the sim until I find something that _does_ work. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good link, I'm worried about this programm wrecking stuff on my pc or slowing things down, - to the point I have to re-install windows. What's the best and safest tool to remove this starforce, and once removed will you still be able to play Sileng Hunter III ?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>So does the system prevent piracy? From a quick glance, nearly every title that uses the protection scheme is cracked and available on torrent trackers, IRC, or Usenet. The latest game to employ the scheme, Soldiers: Heroes of World War 2, was released several weeks ago and the U.S. version has yet to be cracked - though several in the "scene" inform us it's expected this week.
Is a two week piracy delay worth wrecking the systems of potential customers? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

archer49d
03-14-2005, 06:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by matteo1980:
Messervy quote:
Because of the text in yellow:
----------------------------------------------
Ram:256 Mb
Video card:Matrox Millennium
Cd-rom: LG 16x
Hard disk 15 Gb
----------------------------------------------

You need a DVD drive!


Infact it's my mistake!
My LG cd-rom IS a DVD-drive!
I wrote bad my spec!

Now that I know that it will run,
LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL!!!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did anyone point out your lacking by 256 megs of RAM?

vonPletz
03-14-2005, 09:49 PM
Woohoo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Just finished building my new toy for SH3

Asus A8V Deluxe MB
AMD 64 3000+ Socket939 CPU
1024 MB 400 DDR Dual Channel Ram
Audigy 2Z Gamer 24 Bit soundcard
ATI 9600 Pro AGP (from my old computer)
450 Watt PS
Asus DVD-Rom Drive
Western Digital 80GB 7200RPM 8MB cache HDD

SH3 Pre-ordered (Not shipping till 18 March)
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Going to be a long week http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

SteveAndHisGuns
03-15-2005, 04:03 PM
Oh bugger, I ordered a copy based on these specs from the SH3 devteam Q & A. I'm running a P4 2gig with WindowsME with only 256Ram. Looks like I'm screwed! This game will be sitting on my shelf for some time to come http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Supported OS: Windowsâ® 98/ME/2000/XP (only)
Processor: Pentiumâ® III 1.4 GHz or AMD Athlonâ"ž˘ 1.4 GHz
(Pentium 4 2.0 GHz or AMD Athlon 2.0Ghz recommended)
RAM: 256 MB (512 MB recommended)
Video Card: 64 MB (128 MB recommended) DirectXâ® 9 compatible graphics card (see supported list*)
Sound Card: DirectX 9 compatible PCI card

archer49d
03-15-2005, 05:03 PM
Why do people still run pre W2K OS's?

Parker_TM
03-15-2005, 07:35 PM
I'm really worried about my specs, I have a radeon 7500 series graphics card. Anyone know if this will work with the game? It's worked with every game i've ever bought except farcry. Everything thing else I have meet and/or beat the recommended specs. Do you guys think it will work or think I should atleast try because it might work with my card?

archer49d
03-15-2005, 09:04 PM
7500 = not work with this game.

Alec_George
03-16-2005, 12:01 AM
So what's the issue with new Nvidia 6*** cards?

KiwiVenge
03-16-2005, 12:36 AM
I think it is pretty much with all Nvidia cards.(not sure, butr have yet to hear of any that work as they should). Looking through UZO and Binoculars does not work, is all fuzzy and unusable.

SteveAndHisGuns
03-16-2005, 02:09 AM
Boohoooo. I've just done the unthinkable and cancelled my order at Amazon. I can't believe I did it. I've also posted the min spec requirements from Ubi up there so everyone can see them before they order. Now I'm off to play Rome which seems to play perfectly well on my sad old pre W2K ME system, maybe by the time I upgrade, SH3 will have an addon included with all the patches.... boohoo...

archer49d
03-16-2005, 07:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cornishman1965:
Boohoooo. I've just done the unthinkable and cancelled my order at Amazon. I can't believe I did it. I've also posted the min spec requirements from Ubi up there so everyone can see them before they order. Now I'm off to play Rome which seems to play perfectly well on my sad old pre W2K ME system, maybe by the time I upgrade, SH3 will have an addon included with all the patches.... boohoo... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You know it is possible to get Windows XP Home for about 80 bucks now.

bweiss
03-16-2005, 07:23 AM
Guess this won't work on my Tandy... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Nimrod2005
03-16-2005, 07:56 AM
This game has given me an excuse to upgrade from my old P3 500Mhz and it's going to be the first game I run on my new PC:

AMD Athlon 64 3400
1GB PC3200 RAM
64Mb Nvidia GeForce3 Titanium 500
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Ex

I can't wait!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Parker_TM
03-16-2005, 09:39 AM
with my radeon m7500, i upgraded it to the highest drivers and according to alienware I can run doom 3. Should I still risk buying the game and maybe losing the 40 bucks? I really want this game, I even went to the store this morning and looked at it debating but I said no and opted to try one more time on this forum.

Alec_George
03-16-2005, 11:59 AM
I was thinking about buying this one. I had a lot of troubles with Destroyer Command and XP. Well, I’m not going to make same mistake twice; I'll wait till they fix NVIDIA issue.

JaFO_NL
03-16-2005, 01:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by archer49d:
Why do people still run pre W2K OS's? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Because Win98SE :
(a) is very stable (I've never had any blue screens or crashes unless I was causing them)

(b) is not even half as hungry for resources like XP

(c) doesn't force you to log-in as an admin on a single-user-system just to play or install the game

(d) it's secure enough, provided you run a hardware-based firewall/router to acces the internet, a virusscanner, a local software-based firewall like ZoneAlarm and avoid using IE & Outlook express (Firefox & Thunderbird as alternatives) ...

So why waste money ?
Heck even I'd be using Win98SE if it weren't for a few NT-class programs I need. The 'extra' stability offered by Win2k et al only ever is useful while developing your own programs. That's not something most users do as a hobby.

Jammy2333
03-16-2005, 01:32 PM
Hi Guys how do u reakon my pc will run this game.

AMD athlon 64 3000
1ghz ram 3200 400mhz
ati x800xt 256mb graphic card
Audigy blaster
80gb 7200 rpm maxtor drive

cheers guys

Jammy

archer49d
03-16-2005, 05:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jammy2333:
Hi Guys how do u reakon my pc will run this game.

AMD athlon 64 3000
1ghz ram 3200 400mhz
ati x800xt 256mb graphic card
Audigy blaster
80gb 7200 rpm maxtor drive

cheers guys

Jammy <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, unless you don't have a DVD player...

On a side note, I installed SH3 on a computer with a Geforce 4 MX vid card, to see how it would work. The fps was a steady 20 FPS, but the texturing was up **** creek, everyone looked like they were a rainbow and all waves were squares.

Jammy2333
03-17-2005, 09:34 AM
thanks man. sounds like my computer should run ok. if u can get mx4 running at abite a little ****e lol

archer49d
03-17-2005, 09:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JaFO_NL:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by archer49d:
Why do people still run pre W2K OS's? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Because Win98SE :
(a) is very stable (I've never had any blue screens or crashes unless I was causing them)

(b) is not even half as hungry for resources like XP

(c) doesn't force you to log-in as an admin on a single-user-system just to play or install the game

(d) it's secure enough, provided you run a hardware-based firewall/router to acces the internet, a virusscanner, a local software-based firewall like ZoneAlarm and avoid using IE & Outlook express (Firefox & Thunderbird as alternatives) ...

So why waste money ?
Heck even I'd be using Win98SE if it weren't for a few NT-class programs I need. The 'extra' stability offered by Win2k et al only ever is useful while developing your own programs. That's not something most users do as a hobby. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

XP, if used properly, which means, keep it updated and run ad-aware and don't turn your registry into mish mash...
1)Is more stable than any previous MS OS.
2)Makes a 110 MB footprint in your RAM, on a 512 or 1024 MB system that leaves more than enough for everything else.
3) Your log-in is automatically set to Admin, unless you change it, you log into Windows with your name and that's it. So I don't know what you mean here.
4)After SP2 and Hotfixes plus what your router and firewall it's outrageously secure.

archer49d
03-17-2005, 09:46 AM
Also while talking about min specs, could someone ask the Dev team why they said you need 512 on the RAM, I ran it without any problems on a computer that had 256.

GropeForLuna
03-17-2005, 06:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> doesn't force you to log-in as an admin on a single-user-system just to play or install the game <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Right-click the installer and choose "Run as"

dmm_u333
03-18-2005, 02:37 AM
wonder if you guy's can beat this:

Celeron (so old i cannot remember, i think 1.6)
512mb ram
ati err, 256mb?
integrated sc
xp sp2 (home)

its works ok except occaisional hissing/popping sounds that forces me to close/reopen the game.

Badkarma666_507
03-18-2005, 12:08 PM
I have a Radeon 9000 128 mb
Will SHIII work normally?
Hope so!!!

Please answer UBIRAZZ or someone else!!!!!!!!!

chookiekhan
03-18-2005, 01:01 PM
Will it run decent on a AthlonXP 2000+, 768mb RAM, Geforce4 TI4200 128MB, SB Live 5.1, DVD-ROM Drive? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

GropeForLuna
03-18-2005, 04:54 PM
The radeon 9000 and TI-4200 are DX8 cards so you will not get DX9 hardware acceleration. The game won't look as good and you may have artifacts as well.

TASKFORCE1x1
03-18-2005, 06:15 PM
Those look like they should work. There is a SHIII diagnostic tool with the game and it will show you before install what your system is running and what passes. They have green check marks if it passes video,audio,processor speed...

hauitsme
03-18-2005, 06:23 PM
Why can't the diagnostic tool be posted up for a seperate d/l somewhere here for those that would like to know whether or not their machines are good enough to run the game?

It would save quite a lot of frustration for some. They would know for sure their machines were compatible before shelling out for a game that won't run!

badaboom.1
03-18-2005, 08:26 PM
Well, I went ahead and did it!!!!,I ran out and got SH3 on the 18th,after getting home and reading the min. req.I seen my g-force mx was'nt going to cut it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif I tried to install anyway and.....OUCH.....It was horrible,It made PONG look good!!!I now am the proud owner of a G-FORCE 6800 GT!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gifand WOW.....What a difference it set me back a couple hundred but I knew sooner or later it had to be done,sooner just came first http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Badkarma666_507
03-19-2005, 02:33 AM
Indeed! You are totally right hauitisme!
It's useless if you buy the game and after that you will come to the conclusion that it will not work properly!

By the way: Thanks for answering my question!!

SHIII-----&gt;Rules!!!!