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tsisqua
11-30-2004, 02:26 AM
Hi All,

This link was recently included in Bearcat's "Essentials" sticky.
http://saltydogfly2.avsim.net/fsautostart/

When I bought this AMD64 (3200+) machine, there were promises from the AMD people that we would soon see games that were launched during a system boot, bypassing my OS, then loading a small Linux kernel. In essence, turning the rig into "A gaming console on steroids" (direct quote). Those games have never materialized, and I can think of alot of reasons why they haven't . . . chiefly, the inclusion of user built addons, or the use of third party utilities and such, would become tricky, if not outright impossible.

Well, what I have discovered here in this little (free) utility, is way to, for a short time, dedicate my entire rig, including some recovered ram, to IL2 (my short name for every version, just easier than saying "IL2/FB/AEP/PF . . . Oh heck! I said it anyway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )!!!!!! This program is now set up on my machine to shut down all uneeded programs and services, to defrag my memory, and to launch IL2 (IL2 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif). When I shut down IL2, FS Autostart will either restart the shutdown apps and services, or restart the machine using my original Windows boot configuration. This is selectable as an option parameter that you set.

The result? Not that noticible of an increase in FR, but that is not the beauty of this. It is the smoothness with which the game runs. I was seeing RAM stutters before that were really annoying, and no, they are not all gone, but most of them are! My entire experience with IL2 simply seems more stable.

I am still using Windows XP Home Edition, 32 BIT, which means I am still not seeing my machine's 64 BIT capability. In all honesty, FS Autostart is not always able to restart some services, so my personal solution is to use the "restart" option that I mentioned above.

I recomend this doo-dad to anyone that wants to see things just a bit smoother. Two things:

1. Take the time to thoroughly set up the configuration to your liking. It takes a little while, but if you just let the program run at default settings, you will get none of the benefits.

2. I do not recomend this utility for Windows 9X versions. The services that are listed in the configuration utility are only there in XP, so once again, this equals reduced efficiancy from FS Autostart.

Well, I saw a post recently that wanted to see IL2 for Gaming Console. Thanks to this utility, you can pretty much have that, only with the computing power of a PC http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I take no responsibility, however, if this causes your machine to want a sex-change operation. I feel that it is safe, though, and wouldn't suggest it to anyone if I thought that it would hurt your system.

Thank You, Bearcat99, and thanks to the original poster, who's username I cannot remember.

Tsisqua

tsisqua
11-30-2004, 02:26 AM
Hi All,

This link was recently included in Bearcat's "Essentials" sticky.
http://saltydogfly2.avsim.net/fsautostart/

When I bought this AMD64 (3200+) machine, there were promises from the AMD people that we would soon see games that were launched during a system boot, bypassing my OS, then loading a small Linux kernel. In essence, turning the rig into "A gaming console on steroids" (direct quote). Those games have never materialized, and I can think of alot of reasons why they haven't . . . chiefly, the inclusion of user built addons, or the use of third party utilities and such, would become tricky, if not outright impossible.

Well, what I have discovered here in this little (free) utility, is way to, for a short time, dedicate my entire rig, including some recovered ram, to IL2 (my short name for every version, just easier than saying "IL2/FB/AEP/PF . . . Oh heck! I said it anyway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )!!!!!! This program is now set up on my machine to shut down all uneeded programs and services, to defrag my memory, and to launch IL2 (IL2 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif). When I shut down IL2, FS Autostart will either restart the shutdown apps and services, or restart the machine using my original Windows boot configuration. This is selectable as an option parameter that you set.

The result? Not that noticible of an increase in FR, but that is not the beauty of this. It is the smoothness with which the game runs. I was seeing RAM stutters before that were really annoying, and no, they are not all gone, but most of them are! My entire experience with IL2 simply seems more stable.

I am still using Windows XP Home Edition, 32 BIT, which means I am still not seeing my machine's 64 BIT capability. In all honesty, FS Autostart is not always able to restart some services, so my personal solution is to use the "restart" option that I mentioned above.

I recomend this doo-dad to anyone that wants to see things just a bit smoother. Two things:

1. Take the time to thoroughly set up the configuration to your liking. It takes a little while, but if you just let the program run at default settings, you will get none of the benefits.

2. I do not recomend this utility for Windows 9X versions. The services that are listed in the configuration utility are only there in XP, so once again, this equals reduced efficiancy from FS Autostart.

Well, I saw a post recently that wanted to see IL2 for Gaming Console. Thanks to this utility, you can pretty much have that, only with the computing power of a PC http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I take no responsibility, however, if this causes your machine to want a sex-change operation. I feel that it is safe, though, and wouldn't suggest it to anyone if I thought that it would hurt your system.

Thank You, Bearcat99, and thanks to the original poster, who's username I cannot remember.

Tsisqua

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
11-30-2004, 02:57 AM
hmmmm interesting stuff Tsisqua. Have you tried it out yet or are you looking for a volunteer http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Thanks for the heads up on this one all the same. Now if there were only some way to run it on my Xbox http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
11-30-2004, 03:24 AM
Hmm actually this could prove quite useful when the dedicated server is released?

Only other thing I noticed is that this seems to provide similar functions to right clicking on my computer and selecting manage then services ? You have an option from there to decide if you want various applications (services) to auto start / restart (at least you do in XP pro )

Ho hum just brain storming off to bed for me now anyhoo

good post though got me thinking hehe

dieg777
11-30-2004, 03:38 AM
have been running it for about 4 months- recommended it in user fixes post but seems to have got lost in there so good shout tsisqua for another recommendation
It really cleans things out and allows you to play without background interference -then relaunches everything automatically so your system is back to usual for surfing etc after playing IL2

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
11-30-2004, 03:42 AM
Sound http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Happy St.Andrews btw http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

blairgowrie
11-30-2004, 12:27 PM
I think this is the thread you are referring to tsisqua.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=1481001542

I also have it installed and it certainly is a great utility. I agree with your comments that the game runs so much smoother.

I am not strong technically but was able to set FPSAutostart up with a little help from a good friend in Finland who I met on these Forums.

tsisqua
11-30-2004, 10:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blairgowrie:
I think this is the thread you are referring to tsisqua.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=1481001542

I also have it installed and it certainly is a great utility. I agree with your comments that the game runs so much smoother.

I am not strong technically but was able to set FPSAutostart up with a little help from a good friend in Finland who I met on these Forums. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, that is the post. (Anyone else having problems with search here?) I want to bump this one more time. I really love knowing that my game is the most important thing on my machine's mind, when IL2 is running, of coarse.

Great Utility

budvar62
12-01-2004, 04:52 AM
Hi guys,

Interesting post. am at work just now so can't try this thing - but one quick question. how does this differ from using MSCONFIG. I do this whenever I'm going to play IL2 - and disable just about everything at startup. Then if i'm going to use the pc as a pc I just re-enable it all. It stops things like messenger, and live update and a bunch of unnecessary application goodies that I don't need for IL2 running in the background. Does your little app do the same or is it freeing up other system resources over and above these?

Cheers

Bud

tsisqua
12-01-2004, 05:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Budvar62:
Hi guys,

Interesting post. am at work just now so can't try this thing - but one quick question. how does this differ from using MSCONFIG. I do this whenever I'm going to play IL2 - and disable just about everything at startup. Then if i'm going to use the pc as a pc I just re-enable it all. It stops things like messenger, and live update and a bunch of unnecessary application goodies that I don't need for IL2 running in the background. Does your little app do the same or is it freeing up other system resources over and above these?

Cheers

Bud <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Above and beyond. If you are using an XP operating system, call up your task manager with ctrl+alt+delete, and click on the "processes" tab. If you want a full list of services that are running in the background, then go to start, then run, then type in "services.msc". The list is overwhelming. Once you set up FS Autostart, it has the ability to shut down whatever is not needed. The configuration utility will not only give you a UI for turning these off, it also offers recomendations on the right as you place your cursor over each service.

It also defrags your memory after these are shut down, and before you program is launched.

Yep, quite a bit better than msconfig.

Tsisqua

budvar62
12-01-2004, 06:11 AM
Excellent!

Downloading it right now for a play tonight...
Thanks for the heads-up m8!

LEBillfish
12-01-2004, 08:52 AM
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=331796

Ankanor
12-01-2004, 09:14 AM
Could somebody help me? I get
"Error launching FSAoutostart Batch Control"
Path = C:\Program files\Ubisoft\IL-2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles\fsasctl.exe "C:\Documents and Settings\Delfin1\Application DAta\FSAutoStart\profiles\fsautostart.ini"

Folder = C:\Program Files\UbiSoft\IL-2SturmovikForgotten Battles

I followed the instructions, but... Thanks in advance http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

slarsson
12-01-2004, 09:27 AM
I get this problem too....

But it goes away after a reboot

Kasdeya
12-01-2004, 09:55 AM
Make sure you create a brand new profile and not just edit the one thats there, or create another profile from the one thats there. I did this too and when I created a new one not based on a previous one, all went well.

Kasdeya
12-01-2004, 09:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LEBillfish:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=331796 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for that BF. Nice info on that link.

Aviar
12-01-2004, 10:21 AM
Give me ONE link to a site where I can download this app without registering...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Thanks.

Aviar

-HH-Quazi
12-01-2004, 11:06 AM
I used this program briefly. One evening we were flying squad night. It did work well, shutting down services and programs of my choosing, then defragging the ram before it starts the game. The trouble I had with the program is that it woke my computer up to the fact that Creative drivers and Norton drivers were running on the same machine and wasn't and had never given me a problem. So, when all was said and done for the evening, my Norton Anti-Virus Auto-Protect feature was disabled and remained disabled even after reboot. And after trying to stop all of Creatives stuff from starting at startup by using msconfig, and seeing as it still didn't work, I decided to try to un-install and re-install my Norton Internet Security program. Long story short, I ended up re-formatting. lol So for those of you using Norton and Creative, be careful. Great little program if it doesn't give you no grief.

zjulik
12-01-2004, 11:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aviar:
Give me ONE link to a site where I can download this app without registering...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Thanks.

Aviar <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It`s freehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://saltydogfly2.avsim.net/fsautostart/

Aviar
12-01-2004, 12:48 PM
I know it's free. I need a site where I can download it without registering.

Aviar

tsisqua
12-01-2004, 02:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aviar:
I know it's free. I need a site where I can download it without registering.

Aviar <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think that was the link beneath his post.

Aviar
12-01-2004, 04:09 PM
LOL.....why do I even bother?

Aviar

zjulik
12-01-2004, 06:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aviar:
LOL.....why do I even bother?

Aviar <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You could always "bother" googling for it. Took me approx. 10 seconds to find a non-register download.
I mean, if it ain`t too much bother.

Aviar
12-01-2004, 08:43 PM
Oh yea? Then why didn't you post THAT link earlier instead of the useless one you did post?

Aviar

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
12-02-2004, 03:07 AM
Oi !!

settle down or we will feed yah to the Beast

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/tHeBaLrOgRoCkS/22-beast.jpg

Cajun76
12-02-2004, 05:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aviar:
Oh yea? Then why didn't you post THAT link earlier instead of the useless one you did post?

Aviar <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Useless? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Just need to register.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

zjulik
12-02-2004, 05:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aviar:
Oh yea? Then why didn't you post THAT link earlier instead of the useless one you did post?

Aviar <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Given the nature of your forum tone, I see why you try to avoid registering.

RobertNighthawk
12-02-2004, 08:02 AM
Hey guys, play nice, ok?

I have used FSAutoSatart for over a year and it works great if you take the time to configure it properly. On my slower machines it did indeed yield more fps which was great since was getting only about 13 fps in Il-2. This program is great and it's free. When used in combination with Black Viper's XP Services info it is a real jewel...much smoother.

tsisqua
12-02-2004, 07:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RobertNighthawk:
Hey guys, play nice, ok?

I have used FSAutoSatart for over a year and it works great if you take the time to configure it properly. On my slower machines it did indeed yield more fps which was great since was getting only about 13 fps in Il-2. This program is great and it's free. When used in combination with Black Viper's XP Services info it is a real jewel...much smoother. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wado, Qua-Quu!
And rgr that . . . no need for bickering. I started this thread to give a little review for something that could help folks enjoy the game a bit more. No need to get testy when someone is only trying to help by taking the time to post a link, either.

Registering at any of those sites is free, and safe. I gaurantee it, or your money back http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Tsisqua

Cajun76
12-03-2004, 04:03 AM
Not totally free, I owe you a "Thanks" for the post and info. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

blue_76
12-03-2004, 08:27 AM
it sounds very interesting, especially if u have a slow 2.4ghz machine like mine http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif does the program create any security risks playing online? seeing that it desables windows services..

tsisqua
12-03-2004, 08:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blue_76:
it sounds very interesting, especially if u have a slow 2.4ghz machine like mine http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif does the program create any security risks playing online? seeing that it desables windows services.. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It only disables the services that you tell it to. I believe that the services involving security are recomended to be left alone in the "help frame" that appears to your right as you are setting up the sevices tab. It almost completely agrees with the settings that you see at Black Viper's site. They can be set to turn themselves back on when the program is terminated. I recomend not turning off explorer if you need to alt tab the game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. I have to leave it on because of my only gripe with my card: I have to alt tab to get my custom color settings.

Tsisqua
P.S. Cajun, you are more than welcome. You still running XP64, Bud? Are the drivers getting any better?

RobertNighthawk
12-03-2004, 11:53 AM
Yeah, what's up with 64 bit these days, La-wi? My Athlon 64 awaits good drivers. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif Anybody play PF on 64 bit?

Daiichidoku
12-03-2004, 12:25 PM
Nice post, sir...

So theres no use to dl this for windows ME?

I use ME's system configuration utility and kill ALL of my startup progs, to save RAM, but I would welcome any improvemant over this

Also, I usually defrag once a month, how critical is defragging to smooth game play? maybe I should defrag every day?

tsisqua
12-03-2004, 02:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
Nice post, sir...

So theres no use to dl this for windows ME?

I use ME's system configuration utility and kill ALL of my startup progs, to save RAM, but I would welcome any improvemant over this

Also, I usually defrag once a month, how critical is defragging to smooth game play? maybe I should defrag every day? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

FS Autostart will give you a list of background programs that you can configure as well as the XP services. As was noted elsewhere, what this actually does is to write to msconfig, only much easier for you than doing all the stopping and restarting manually. I think that you will find it to be a timesaver as well as those using XP. What FS Autostart defrags is not your hard drive, but your RAM. Your RAM still contains fragments after shutting down other programs. When your RAM is freed up you will notice a difference is smoothness. I've been told that if you are using XP, that it requires 64 megs of RAM, just to load Windows. On ME, it is only half of that. Notice that on the game box more RAM is required to run the game if you are using XP. Shutting down anything that ios running, then defragging the RAM can only help, no matter which OS, although it was designed with XP in mind, I believe.

Tsisqua

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Tsisqua

joeap
12-03-2004, 02:59 PM
Well Tsisqua I got it and used it and it works really well after fiddling with it (I have XP) not in FPs but in smoothness. Thanks for the tip.

RobertNighthawk
12-03-2004, 03:01 PM
In ME, you can ususally alt-Ctl-Del and turn off everything except systray and explorer. There is also a program called "enditall" you might check out.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,697,00.asp

tsisqua
12-03-2004, 03:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RobertNighthawk:
In ME, you can ususally alt-Ctl-Del and turn off everything except systray and explorer. There is also a program called "enditall" you might check out.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,697,00.asp <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Robert, they want money for that program now, and due to some legal issue, it was taken from the individual that created it, and given to a company that is now making much a-de-la. I wouldn't mind giving money to a developer for the work, but not to a money-grubbing takeover artist.

Tsisqua

Cajun76
12-04-2004, 06:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tsisqua:

P.S. Cajun, you are more than welcome. You still running XP64, Bud? Are the drivers getting any better? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've heard some people lately around work and the interweb http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif that have said the support is getting better, so I believe I (and IT) are ready to put on my 3rd physical drive as a second OS.
If I get it running good, I can configure my primary drive with it, hopefully with a minimum of down time. I need to go ahead and download all the drivers I'll need too so that I'm prepared.
I (we?) jumped into it a bit too fast and unprepared the first time methinks. Good luck to you if you decide to go this route as well. Maybe we'll see each other in the 64 bit virtual skies. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif (And before anyone jumps me, I know IL2 will still run as a 32-bit app. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

tsisqua
12-04-2004, 10:07 AM
Yep, Cajun, we jumped right in there, didn't we? LMAO! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif There was no driver support for my soundcard, and I was able to see IL2 run without sound. I tried again later, and legacy had released some beta drivers that really worked well, but the beta 64 bit drivers from ATI simply have to take a back-seat where development is concerned . . . not ATI's fault, since they are still working on the 32 bit Catalysts for the majority of us without the AMD64. I had alot of problems with frame rates and textures being rendered properly. I expect that after the release of XP64, there will still be issues to work through, just like when XP was first released.

Tsisqua