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ROXunreal
07-16-2010, 04:44 AM
We all have them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Like going for a head on and "colliding" in a way that the other guy loses a wing and you are untouched. Or just a few days ago, I was flying a bf-110 with 108's and 2x20m pod, and got bounced by a P-47. I evaded his BnZ attempts a few times and then once he overshot me and I saw he wasn't going to enter a particularly steep climb. Now, this was with externals on, and with external view on I saw he was (as he made a pass under me) going to climb right through my sights, and I just opened up for the hell of it. 108 took off a wing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I was as surprised as he was.

Had a few of these situations over the time when I would scissor with someone with external view on and when he'd pass in front of me I'd get a hit while never even looking at the internal view/gunsight. More luck than anything really but still makes you proud.

Also do the 30mm's do splash damage? As in, if someone is flying close to the ground would those nice luminous ground explosions from a 30mm shell do them damage if close enough? Because I'd have many kills when just opening up in front of them but I'm unsure if it's from splash damage or just because they got scared/disoriented from all the carnage and smoke and crashed...

JtD
07-16-2010, 05:09 AM
I was tank busting in a 110 with the Bk3.7, when I got bounced by a Tempest. I corkscrewed out of his way and he flew past me, zooming up, so I corkscrewed my sights somewhere into his flightpath, fired a single Bk3.7 round and took his wing off. That was just plain lucky.

In another situation I was dogfighting a Stuka im my early I-16, at one point it came up zoomclimbing from below me with me having no chance to match it, I also pulled up to get very close in the moment it would pass, and as the Stuka pulled past me I stalled and my plane entered a spin. I released my bombs just in the right split second so that it somehow landed on the Stuka and took it out. That looks so silly that I still have to laugh when I watch the track.

thefruitbat
07-16-2010, 05:40 AM
The other night (wed) i was hosting some MDS missions for a few of the dangerdogz, and we were flying a BoB mission.

I was flying a spit mk1, and spotted some ju87's circling to land just south of Calais, and as i dived down on one and lined him up, i noticed another was in front almost in line, so i gave a longer burst than normal with the 303's and managed to set fire to both in one burst, pure luck that the other was in line, but very satisfying, even better by the fact that someone else witnessed it, lol!

FlitGun
07-16-2010, 06:15 AM
In a 190 and descending on some tanks for a bombing run I found myself attacked by a spit. It struck some hits and I sustained some damage. I stubbornly continued and made a desperate drop on the tanks. Three second fuse gave me time to turn slightly and look back in time to see explosions miss the tanks but blow the wings off the chasing spit. I did laugh.

ROXunreal
07-16-2010, 07:04 AM
Oh the ole "drop payload, kill pursuer". Was a victim of it myself many times, especially when chasing p-38's...

Ba5tard5word
07-16-2010, 09:51 AM
This was offline and a while ago...but once I was in a B-239 (Finnish Buffalo) attacking some of those giant Tupolev bombers...I shot down three of them, then started attacking the last one. After firing a bunch at him I started breaking off to make another pass but I got too close and clipped his wing with my wing. It knocked the tip off my wing, but knocked off a big chunk of his wing and sent him spiralling to his doom. My AI wingmen told me to bail out but I could still fly (a bit awkwardly) and managed to make it back to base.

Romanator21
07-16-2010, 11:44 AM
In an offline quick mission I was using Ju-88s for fun/easy target practice. I made a slashing attack to avoid their fire, but some disappeared under my nose. I ended up hitting one, lost a wing and crashed. The bomber was totally unscathed - not even an aileron missing.

I do believe the 30 mm do splash damage, but I don't think it's great enough to cause a crash. They do however cause a great deal of lag for some people, so I wouldn't be surprised if they became disoriented at a bad time. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ROXunreal
07-16-2010, 07:32 PM
AGES ago I remember seeing a video of a guy killing friendly bombers with his gear. Lowered the wheels and flew above the bombers, touched them gently, would lose the gear and the bomber would go down in pieces http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

M2morris
07-16-2010, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by ROXunreal:
AGES ago I remember seeing a video of a guy killing friendly bombers with his gear. Lowered the wheels and flew above the bombers, touched them gently, would lose the gear and the bomber would go down in pieces http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Oh man I'm gonna try that the next time I'm out of ammo and there's still another bomber headed for my carrier. Can't believe I never thought of that. When ammo is gone I usually try to nick them with my prop or wing tip with bad results for my plane. With the Corsair I could use the speed brakes on a fast fly-by. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

VW-IceFire
07-16-2010, 10:51 PM
If you enable "Arcade" mode in the config.ini you can see the bits of shrapnel coming from a MK108 blast. So yes they do splash damage but the most practical application of that is by hitting the target and all of the various bits that do extra damage from there are counted up.

Getting a proximity explosion kill from a MK108 is probably next to impossible because the range of the splash damage is not very high relatively speaking.

As for me I'm usually on the receiving end of the silly victories. A guy hit me at 700-800 meters with a BK3.7 the other day... hit my La-5FNs engine and killed it outright. Some 109 then shot me down shortly after. Also a guy was flying a Ju-87B-2 and his rear gunner hit me with a single bullet during the whole fight... straight through my pilots head. I guess the P.11c doesn't have much in the way of armor to protect the pilot.

Phas3e
07-17-2010, 02:06 AM
Bounced a 109 Strafing our base when in a Beaufighter he still had too much speed on me,
I was fully loaded with bombs and rockets so I fired off a pair of 90lb rockets to hopefully scare him into turning and took his engine out with the blast radius of the rocket hitting the ground below him.

jarink
07-17-2010, 01:31 PM
Not too long after I started playing Pacific Fighters, I was flying an F4F against A6Ms. Got behind a pair and started firing at the wingman. I took his wing off and the leader simultaneously bursts into flames. I had to replay the track to see what hit him; I had no idea it was me.

MadMacgunner
07-20-2010, 03:20 AM
Hi all.

My Silly victory was flying an Ar234.
Flying straight forward towards the enemy airbase on a server (can´t remember if it was Spitvs109, at max speed suddenly an spit appeared in front of me for a head on pass.
I closed my eyes,made a short pray and continued my level flight.
Attacked me from 1 or perhaps 2 o´clock and passsed away me for my right side.
I thought it could pass in front of my rear guns so i decided to make a short burst.
When i switched to my periscope view, i saw him smoking and falling down.
Really a lucky shot, no doubt....but very gratifying http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

"Vista, Suerte y al toro"

JtD
07-20-2010, 10:22 AM
I think I have told that one before, but it must have been years so it's time to tell it again.

I was chasing a Bf 110 in my P-40, I had damaged the plane already, the gunner apparently was dead, and when I closed in from 6 o'clock for another run, the pilot decided to bail out. I saw him drop right into my flight path, and while I tried to evade him, he hit my right wing which broke off. He then opened his parachute and landed safely, while my plane and I left a burning hole in the ground.

MD_Titus
07-20-2010, 03:41 PM
two 109s were climbing after another MD, jostling for a firing position, with me chasing behind them. took a pot shot to try and discourage them a bit, as they were both firing as i had gotten near enough to shoot, and ended up taking a wing tip off each of them with the spit's cannons. i thought they'd collided in their haste, but saw both kill notifications come up.

Old_Canuck
07-20-2010, 08:09 PM
"Sometimes better lucky than good." Years ago, it was one of those lucky nights on Warclouds server. Guess I offended this chap from Chicago who was flying Allies and he called me out on chat. I told him to come and get it "you'll be next." But didn't tell him where I was on the map. OC didn't get old by bein' stupid. The guy was was smart. He figured out where my 190 was based and shortly after take off his tracers went whizzing by the cockpit. Perfect bounce. Instinctively, I pushed forward on the stick and noticed a piece falling off his Spit as he whooshed by. Later, the kill confirmation came through while I was still nursing the 190 to friendly territory with a missing vertical stabilizer. By the time he logged off I was still clawing for altitude for a bail out. Silly victory but gave me many a chuckle.

Xnomad
07-20-2010, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Also a guy was flying a Ju-87B-2 and his rear gunner hit me with a single bullet during the whole fight... straight through my pilots head.

A bit OT but I just started playing again after a few years abstinence and after all the upgrades to 4.09 the AI gunners are back to their usual sniping ways. They are the best deflection shooters in the entire game bar none. I have to set the bombers to 'empty' in QMB to get a chance. As I've been away I don't know if this is a common complaint that's been raised to the patch team?

WTE_Galway
07-21-2010, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Xnomad:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Also a guy was flying a Ju-87B-2 and his rear gunner hit me with a single bullet during the whole fight... straight through my pilots head.

A bit OT but I just started playing again after a few years abstinence and after all the upgrades to 4.09 the AI gunners are back to their usual sniping ways. They are the best deflection shooters in the entire game bar none. I have to set the bombers to 'empty' in QMB to get a chance. As I've been away I don't know if this is a common complaint that's been raised to the patch team? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Most people only have the sniper problem on ace settings and hence mission builders tend to use veteran or average not ace. Do you have this problem on other AI bomber skill levels ???

It would seem with bombers the AI skill level mainly effects shooting so if veteran works for you just use that.

There is also a mod I believe though I never use mods myself so cannot say for sure.

(Note the odd individual seems to be obsessed with killing everything in the game on the hardest possible settings but "I want to beat the ace setting but it is too hard for me" is a very poor argument for reducing the difficulty of the ace setting which is meant to be ludicrously hard)

Xnomad
07-21-2010, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
Most people only have the sniper problem on ace settings and hence mission builders tend to use veteran or average not ace. Do you have this problem on other AI bomber skill levels ???


Nope I've got the bomber AI on rookie http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The deflection shots I've suffered are beyond belief. I remember this was a problem back in the old days then they fixed it, now it's back. Of course coming from dead six is suicide but I'm coming at off angles, high speed and getting nailed a lot even when jinking.

When I read the auto-biographies of some pilots e.g. Helmut Lipfert, he makes rear gunners sound like an annoyance and not the super snipers I have to put up with. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Xnomad
07-22-2010, 02:34 AM
EDIT

Actually tested it again and turns out that 1 on 1 the AI is a terrible shot but when I have 12 B17s in the air I get peppered a lot, and if I'm in a bf109 those shots hurt, a bf110 is a bit more robust.

Yeah 12 B17's would be bad news in real life but it's just that often it's the first shot that hits you, even when off angle. I'd believe it more if they were raking. Hence the feeling of a sniper.

Anyway I shouldn't hijack the thread...

horseback
07-22-2010, 08:22 AM
Actually, I've found the B-17 and B-24 ai gunners to be almost reasonable.

Worse by far are the gunners on the early field modified Il-2s and the ones on Blenheims. Generally speaking, the twins & single engine gunners are grossly overmodeled, but the most annoying are the tunnel gunners that hit you at angles the gunners couldn't possibly see you from over their sights...

cheers

horseback

dwagener
07-23-2010, 09:39 PM
I find the veteran setting harder to fly against than ace. The aces are good shots but are more predictable than the veterans. I'm talking about fighters. And yes the gunners are good shots.

Fly safe!

M2morris
07-25-2010, 05:03 PM
Here's a silly victory, or maybe I should say it was more of an even score.
Only 2 aircraft are involved; me and a damaged AI bomber trying to land.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m73WXCcJPVo
...and I'll add this: Its a freak carrier accident where my fuselage ends up resting on an upper deck. !?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu_dWGNQXkc

JtD
07-25-2010, 10:25 PM
The first video around 2:34 is good for a desktop screenshot. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Tully__
07-26-2010, 03:01 AM
I've seen a .trk file of someone torpedo bombing a flight of 3 x He-111 I think they were, or maybe Me-323. One torp hitting the middle bomber, blast killed all three. Would have been about 7 years ago, but it's likely still possible if you'd like to try it.

fhirai
07-26-2010, 04:10 PM
I had one of these victories, when fighting a 190 in a Yak, almost stalled and as i leveled, he crossed my sight
I pulled the trigger and got 1 hit out of 230 fired, but luckily i think it hit just the pilot, as the 190 just dove on the trees below! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

M2morris
07-26-2010, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by JtD:
The first video around 2:34 is good for a desktop screenshot. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif That was some real close proximity to the IJA bomber crew running around. You'd think they would have dragged me away and beheaded me. Maybe I shoulda pulled my nine and started poppin some caps. Edit: Oops, I mean my .45

Skoshi Tiger
07-26-2010, 11:35 PM
I'm not sure if it counts as I was dead at the time, but I was flying online in a Hurricane when I go PK'ed. I had a substantial amount of nose up trim at the time and my Hurricane went in to a series of loops that went down to only a few hundred feet from the ground. (I think I ended up doing about 7 loops before the plane crashed)

Before I hit the ground a 109 attacked me in the dive, He tried to pull up but couldn't and ploughed into the ground!

It put a smile on my face http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Cheers

MrSteven37
08-04-2010, 06:52 PM
I had a pretty funny one yesterday, I was flying a P-38 and had dragged two enemies way up to around 30,000 feet. One was a D9 and the other was a 109 K4. Up to this point I had no idea how insanely fast the K4 is way up there, so once he caught up to me, I went into some serious evasive manoeuvers, using tons of sky until I was down to around 13,000 feet. The K4 ended up ploughing into my tail and wing, bringing his wing off and sailing right over my canopy, and then his buddy in the D9 came flying in after I had bailed trying to get the points for the kill! The thing was empty with one wing and one of the tails, and HE smashed into it too! It was like a half hour chase, or maybe even more, and that was just a completely ridiculous ending.