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vozzek6969
04-06-2006, 06:09 AM
Okay, here's my moral dilemma:

If you don't wanna waste a torpedo... and if the seas are too rough to use the AA guns...

Is it wrong to ram a trawler like this???

http://www.shocknawehockey.com/pm/trawler1.jpg

Especially if it bursts into flames and flips over like a pancake on Sunday morning?

http://www.shocknawehockey.com/pm/trawler2.jpg

Your thoughts please. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Celeon999
04-06-2006, 06:22 AM
Is it wrong to ram a trawler like this???




Is the pope catholic ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

There are survivors in the water ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Lets man the mg-42´s and the searchlight ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Imagine Socko on that thing ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2346/000001941jq.jpg

Sergeant_Uhanov
04-06-2006, 11:18 AM
yeah, Socko would let his shcizophrenia loose if he had been exposed to such schoking opportunity http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

btw Celeon, did nazi uboats have double MG 42 as AA armament, or just weaponry for close encounters with ment-at-sea?

Celeon999
04-06-2006, 11:30 AM
They hadnt these aboard. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But it was an light AA gun for ground troops.

The_Silent_O
04-06-2006, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Celeon999:
They hadnt these aboard. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But it was an light AA gun for ground troops.

I get the impression they did have these (MG42s on board)...I could swear they are in a rack in the Kaleun's attack center in the conning tower...can anyone get a screenshot?

And besides that wouldn't a portion of the Crew be armed with both small arms and machine guns...anybody know?

They would need these for boarding parties...and I know early in the war the U-boat crews would board lone cargoes to question the crew and take away and important info. I know of a few cargos sunk by U-boat crews using manually emplaced charges and not torpedoes.

Celeon999
04-06-2006, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by The_Silent_O:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
They hadnt these aboard. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But it was an light AA gun for ground troops.

I get the impression they did have these (MG42s on board)...I could swear they are in a rack in the Kaleun's attack center in the conning tower...can anyone get a screenshot?

And besides that wouldn't a portion of the Crew be armed with both small arms and machine guns...anybody know?

They would need these for boarding parties...and I know early in the war the U-boat crews would board lone cargoes to question the crew and take away and important info. I know of a few cargos sunk by U-boat crews using manually emplaced charges and not torpedoes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Oh yes they had mg42´s aboard. And MP-40´s and K98k´s.


I was talking about that .....Lafette....whats the english word for that ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

This thingy was not aboard. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DBond99
04-06-2006, 12:43 PM
The MGs in the conning tower look like MG-34s to me.


Are the bottles in the racks Molotov cocktails?

Celeon999
04-06-2006, 01:03 PM
Are the bottles in the racks Molotov cocktails?


Maybe. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The finns invented the Molotov cocktail to take out soviet tanks.

The_Silent_O
04-06-2006, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Celeon999:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Are the bottles in the racks Molotov cocktails?


Maybe. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The finns invented the Molotov cocktail to take out soviet tanks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So when the torpedoes are gone, what 'key' do I hit to order my crew to attack the cargo with molotov cocktails??? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Schiffmorder
04-06-2006, 07:03 PM
Although the pic shows a twin MG42 AA set up, the weapon is widely regarded as the finest infantry machine gun of WW2 if not the best ever.

Kaleun1961
04-06-2006, 07:30 PM
And the guys who had to lug around their ammo all got arms like Popeye after a while. Those MG 42's had a rate of fire of what was it, 600 or 900 rounds per minute? Maybe it was as high as 1200 rounds per minute. It was a real slayer of massed infantry. Heinrich Severloh reportedly caused 2,000 casualties with it at Omaha Beach on D-Day.

Gmuno
04-07-2006, 12:49 AM
The normal loadout at german subs were 2 MG 34. Those were only fitted in early war configs. Later, some had 13mm MGs and the most simply nothing.

Celeon999
04-07-2006, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by Kaleun1961:
And the guys who had to lug around their ammo all got arms like Popeye after a while. Those MG 42's had a rate of fire of what was it, 600 or 900 rounds per minute? Maybe it was as high as 1200 rounds per minute. It was a real slayer of massed infantry. Heinrich Severloh reportedly caused 2,000 casualties with it at Omaha Beach on D-Day.


You still get these popeye arms today with the mg-3. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yes its about 1200 rounds per minute. Thats why we called (and still do) this thing "Hitler S¤ge" (Hitler saw)

There are a lot of horrible stories around of what these things did to enemy soldiers in ww-2. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif


I myself once saw someone cut a massive tree in half with an MG-3. (At short distance of course)

The_Silent_O
04-07-2006, 06:09 AM
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/m2hb.jpg
Da "MA DUECE"

I have to speak up here for our machine gun...virtually unchanged since WWII and still the heavy machine gun of the US Armed forces...
...I've heard stories about how just one of these rounds split a wild boar in half.

I Still can't imagine what it must have been to fire eight of these at once in a P-47 fighter bomber.

Celeon999
04-07-2006, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by The_Silent_O:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/m2hb.jpg
Da "MA DUECE"

I have to speak up here for our machine gun...virtually unchanged since WWII and still the heavy machine gun of the US Armed forces...
...I've heard stories about how just one of these rounds split a wild boar in half.

I Still can't imagine what it must have been to fire eight of these at once in a P-47 fighter bomber.



You can buy an deko one here for 1250 "

Along with some other equipment http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


Here (http://www.teilesatz.de/index2.php?Chap=1&Gruppe=3)

vozzek69
04-07-2006, 07:25 AM
Oh MAN did my trawler thread get hijacked!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cool guns though.

Celeon999
04-07-2006, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by vozzek69:
Oh MAN did my trawler thread get hijacked!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cool guns though.


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif ....i did it again.


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif Celeon just violated some copyrights... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


I just hope the S.t.a.r.f.o.r.c.e Gestapo doesnt come back to pull me out of bed like last time.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Kaleun1961
04-07-2006, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Celeon999:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The_Silent_O:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
They hadnt these aboard. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But it was an light AA gun for ground troops.

I get the impression they did have these (MG42s on board)...I could swear they are in a rack in the Kaleun's attack center in the conning tower...can anyone get a screenshot?

And besides that wouldn't a portion of the Crew be armed with both small arms and machine guns...anybody know?

They would need these for boarding parties...and I know early in the war the U-boat crews would board lone cargoes to question the crew and take away and important info. I know of a few cargos sunk by U-boat crews using manually emplaced charges and not torpedoes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Oh yes they had mg42´s aboard. And MP-40´s and K98k´s.


I was talking about that .....Lafette....whats the english word for that ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

This thingy was not aboard. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

At first I had no idea what you were talking about, then I visited the link you provided where replica weapons were being offered. I think the "Lafette" refers to the "mount" upon which the weapon sits. A two-legged mount is called a "bipod" and a three-legged mount is called a "tripod."

Celeon999
04-07-2006, 07:35 AM
Yep thats it ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


We use the french word "Lafette" for that.