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Scrapper_511
01-19-2006, 08:29 PM
This will be my most trivial post in any forum and I hate to do it, but after "Flaming Cliffs" and now "Wings Over Waves", I can't help but say, what a couple of lame titles. Perhaps they are poor translations from another language, but dang, as they are, they suck. They don't sound right at all and are corny at best.

Scrapper_511
01-19-2006, 08:29 PM
This will be my most trivial post in any forum and I hate to do it, but after "Flaming Cliffs" and now "Wings Over Waves", I can't help but say, what a couple of lame titles. Perhaps they are poor translations from another language, but dang, as they are, they suck. They don't sound right at all and are corny at best.

VW-IceFire
01-19-2006, 09:09 PM
Russian and German translation I believe. Its really not that bad...the content is what matters. Titles these days are just branding as they make no clever attempts to title anything anymore.

Zeus-cat
01-19-2006, 09:13 PM
What would you have called it?

LEXX_Luthor
01-19-2006, 09:36 PM
Wings Over Water ??

actionhank1786
01-20-2006, 03:15 AM
Aerodynamic Flight Machines over the H2O

major_setback
01-20-2006, 04:36 AM
"A Drop in the Ocean"
"Swimming for Freedom"
"Spit and the Surf"
"Too Much Reef"
"Singapore Gunslingers"
"Ooh Betty"

SeaFireLIV
01-20-2006, 04:48 AM
Interesting how Oleg more or less got the name Forgotten Battles dead on, I mean, few in the west knew of the Russian air combat aircraft of WWII or of the multiple areas fought in the East.

`IL2 Sturmovik` was a little too obscure (and one of the reasons I never touched it for ages), but I guess it shows that if something is good enough, even a name like `Sturmovik` won`t prevent it becoming a star among sims... eventually. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

zoinks_
01-20-2006, 05:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by major_setback:
"A Drop in the Ocean"
"Swimming for Freedom"
"Spit and the Surf"
"Too Much Reef"
"Singapore Gunslingers"
"Ooh Betty" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

you forgot "beach blanket zero"

lairdperkins
01-20-2006, 04:42 PM
Has anyone else noticed that Pacific Fighters is an oxymoron?

x6BL_Brando
01-20-2006, 05:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Has anyone else noticed that Pacific Fighters is an oxymoron? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Well spotted, but I think the capital F just puts it over the line. Nice try but you'rr out!

Next contestant....... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SkyChimp
01-20-2006, 05:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
Wings Over Water ?? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can't use Wing Over Water. That was the title of an old Discovery Channel series on naval aircraft.

CorsairJockey
01-20-2006, 05:50 PM
"Operation Sea-Lion"?

ronison
01-20-2006, 06:26 PM
"20,000 Lieges Over the Sea"?

jarink
01-20-2006, 07:17 PM
I heard they tried some other names...

"Wings Under the Waves" - sounds like you get shot down a lot.

"Wings over Troubled Water" - Folk songs went out in the '70s.

"Zeros, Kates and Vals, Oh My!" - The Dorothy model was submitted, but Oleg said the cockpit wasn't good enough.

"Hell in (most of) the Pacific" - sounds too much like there's maps missing.

"Torpedo...." Nah. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Feathered_IV
01-20-2006, 07:19 PM
If we had a bumper add-on of the remaining flyables. Forgotten Fighters would be a nice title http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif.

major_setback
01-21-2006, 02:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
If we had a bumper add-on of the remaining flyables. Forgotten Fighters would be a nice title http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif A very good title!

...And if so what about 'The Avengers'.

DuxCorvan
01-21-2006, 04:23 AM
"Wings over Wales"? Isn't that a Paul McCartney album? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

How 'bout

"Forgotten Content: Amnesia over Rabaul"
"Twoweekers vs Patchwhiners"
"Close Updates of the Third Kind"
"Empire of the 'Soon'"
"StarForce Slaughter"
"Enemy at the Gates 2: The Bomber Gunner"
"Ben Affleck's The Dummy Returns"
"Buy it! Free sex inside"

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LePetit_Lapin
01-21-2006, 05:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">"Zeros, Kates and Vals, Oh My!" - The Dorothy model was submitted, but Oleg said the cockpit wasn't good enough. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I'm not sure if you intended that to be a rahter amusing innuendo, but, lol, made me laugh quite a lot all the same!

major_setback
01-21-2006, 05:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

Originally posted by jarink:
..."Zeros, Kates and Vals, Oh My!" - The Dorothy model was submitted, but Oleg said the cockpit wasn't good enough...

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
mmm...That sounds vaguely familiar; in which case:

"There's no Base Like Home..."
"There's no Base Like Home..."
"There's no Base Like Home..."

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PlusWave
01-22-2006, 11:39 AM
LOL http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PlusWave

major_setback
01-23-2006, 03:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PlusWave:
LOL http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PlusWave </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

While you're here...
Is there any other way to pay for the add-ons other than by using Paypal? I have had difficulty getting Paypal to work.
I would prefer to pay by credit card (Visa). I see that they are selling the add-ons at Flying Legends...but when I tried to order the only option there was to pay by Paypal too. Wouldn't it be possible to order by visa from there...they have a Visa symbol at the bottom of the page so it must be possible to order other items on the site by Visa.
I'll PM you a copy of this ...please reply here so that all can read your reply...I think that quite a few of us are interested in making a purchase (or two) !

ronison
01-23-2006, 05:47 PM
I e-mailed pulse wave and asked this exact question. The respons was that they will only take payments in the two described methods. I have not purchesed their product for the same reason you have stated and wish they would change policy. There is so little out there as far as pay add ons for the Pacific that it would be great if they had more options for their potential customers.

Werg78
01-23-2006, 06:31 PM
try www.simw.com (http://www.simw.com) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

they have:
Wings over Waves
Wigs over Jungles
Rebirth of Honour

and you can pay by paypal, credit card or direct bank transfer.

PlusWave
01-24-2006, 12:24 AM
Hello Mj Setback, Ronison,

until now we can't recieve credit card payments directly, only via PayPal.
I don't know how it is in the US but here in Germany it's too expensive to enable this for such a little shop.
That's why I decided to do it via Paypal which is very easy to do. Here paypal is about to become a standard for payments with credit card.

We're still working on the pay per download thing which btw has become a project much complicater than ever expected.
Last week I have ordered the 3rd team to try to make it working properly.

So all I can say is sorry

Many greetings from cold Germany,

PlusWave

Doorknob1968
01-24-2006, 02:34 AM
Same at Flying-Legends, soon we will have a store full of merchendise to offer.
We are currently working over the details to offer more forms of payment, with the credit card companies there is the issue of fees owed to the creditors for using thier service, with Pay Pal that is all taken care of.

Paying in the form of check or money order is also another prefered method, but then there is the issue of exchnge rates. Deano and the site are located in the UK and I'm located in the US, so this is going to help as far as taking care of orders and where they will ship from.

In due time we will have the system set up to offer the best service possible to you.

major_setback
01-24-2006, 04:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Werg78:
try www.simw.com (http://www.simw.com) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

they have:
Wings over Waves
Wigs over Jungles
Rebirth of Honour

and you can pay by paypal, credit card or direct bank transfer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks! I'll try this.

major_setback
01-24-2006, 04:21 AM
Thanks again. I just ordered two of Pluswaves add-ons from that site. I didn't even know that site existed.

I paid by Visa (credit card), you can use other cards too.

Capt._Tenneal
01-24-2006, 08:07 AM
World of Warplanes ? Hey we can shorten it to WoW, and....uh...nevermind. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

major_setback
01-24-2006, 11:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Capt._Tenneal:
World of Warplanes ? Hey we can shorten it to WoW, and....uh...nevermind. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Already done. Wings of War! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

BFawlty
01-24-2006, 12:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by major_setback:
Thanks again. I just ordered two of Pluswaves add-ons from that site. I didn't even know that site existed.

I paid by Visa (credit card), you can use other cards too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm curious what did that end up costing with shipping and everything? I'm assuming your in the US? Thanks

BF

Stackhouse25th
01-24-2006, 12:50 PM
LOL awesome titles ha hahahahhaa

major_setback
01-24-2006, 02:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BFawlty:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by major_setback:
Thanks again. I just ordered two of Pluswaves add-ons from that site. I didn't even know that site existed.

I paid by Visa (credit card), you can use other cards too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm curious what did that end up costing with shipping and everything? I'm assuming your in the US? Thanks

BF </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, I'm an Englishman living in Sweden. I'm having them sent here (Sweden). I'm a bit worried about the postage cost as it wasn't stated on the site..either before or after making out the order!

Still.. as long as it's not astronomical I'll be happy!
I want to get them before they all disappear. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BFawlty
01-24-2006, 03:11 PM
Thanks. From what I could figure it looked like the shipping was 14 and the title was 19 and thats euros(?) I think? Not sure of the exchange rate, but thought that the shipping cost here to the states a little steep. I have played the demos and they are quite good. Hopefully they'll get a download option up soon.

BF

major_setback
01-24-2006, 03:15 PM
Yes, I think that the price was in Euros. Here's a currency converter:


http://www.xe.com/ucc/

AH_BlueKestral
01-24-2006, 03:37 PM
WOW,
33.00 EUR
Euro = 40.4981 USD
United States Dollars

Just one tittle at that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

major_setback
01-24-2006, 04:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AH_BlueKestral:
WOW,
33.00 EUR
Euro = 40.4981 USD
United States Dollars

Just one tittle at that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Each title is only 19.90 Euro (24.40 dollars)!
Shipping costs are high though...very.

Shipping costs:

http://www.simw.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=dsp_shipping


They will ship up to 4 CD/DVD of software for the same price though.

They charge 18 dollars (14,9 Euro) to ship to the US, so it would pay to order several titles (for the same cost).

AH_BlueKestral
01-24-2006, 05:30 PM
Thats the cost of two games here
http://www.matrixgames.com/games/?g=2



Operation Barbarosa: For IL-2 or Forgotten Battles


Matrix Games is proud to present Just Flight latest offering Operation Barbarossa. Operation Barbarossa is the ultimate campaign add-on for IL * 2 Sturmovik and Forgotten Battles. Operation BarBarossa has over 60 Custom Aircraft Repaints, 390 Mission Campaign From 1941 to 1945 and over 80 New Missions.



Simulation : World War II
Release Date : August 1, 2003

Case Blue : For IL-2 or Forgotten Battles
Case Blue" is an add-on for IL-2 Sturmovik that is unique in its variety and depth! You will see IL2-Forgotten Battles in a completely new light. Over 1000 different missions offer almost infinite replayability and bring the World War II era to life with dogfights, escort-missions, bombing runs and more!



Simulation : World War II
Release Date : December 21, 2004

The Last Days : For IL-2 Forgotten Battles
The Twilight Struggle... Europe, Spring 1945: The Last Days of World War II claim countless victims on all sides. Victory for the Allies seems a foregone conclusion, but Germany fights on. The Last Days" is an expansion for IL-2 Sturmovik that adds incredible depth, originality and playability!



Simulation : World War II
Release Date : December 22, 2004

Banzai! : For Pacific Fighters
With this unique expansion pack for the combat flight simulation "Pacific Fighters" you will experience the most thrilling dogfights between the Japanese, Australian and American air forces!

flying-legends
01-24-2006, 05:52 PM
The flying Legends store is only 4 euros for posting to the US and other places, products are up at 20 euros.

Total 1 game 24 euros including shipping.

http://www.flying-legends.net/store

AH_BlueKestral
01-24-2006, 10:11 PM
This is for Flying Legends,

I think I have seen this in another post but here it goes again. The store has paypal listed as currrent method of payment. Will you ever have other means of payment? Most publishers are
in Europe and only accept Euros and Paypal only.
Your site shows Visa and Master card and what the price would be in dollars. I do understand that the exchange rate and credit card processing fees can be expensive. Would it not be worth the cost so sell more of a product over time? The shipping cost for me at some places is too much to even consider buying from overseas. Most US retailers have only the basics
when it comes to IL2 add ons. I'm counting AEP and PF as those basics. That is really sad for such a fantastic sim. I have purchased quite a few add ons. I have six besides AEP and PF. I do not own the others due to the complexities mentioned before. (PayPal, Euros only. and shipping cost) The only aswer I can come up with is to have more Distributors. I can only assume that If a product makes it big in Europe, then it will find its way to the U.S.A.
Your new shop has a great oportunity to sell a lot of merchandise. Please, work hard on accepting other means of payment. I see digital downloading as future for your type of business as well. I have to mention the distributor Matrix games. For $20.00 one can download good add ons. Yes it has its drawbacks for the consumer and the business. But why not capitalize on this. Advertise. "Why pay through the nose for you favorite sim" Download your copy today at_________ . http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif You have aquired the rites to distribute from PWX just invest in the future and <span class="ev_code_BLUE">Help us Add on deprived Simmers put money in your pocket http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif</span> Did I mention lack of over the counter places to purchase here. <span class="ev_code_GREEN">Please accept my international Postal money order in dolars Please... </span> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

major_setback
01-25-2006, 02:18 AM
My order of Wings aver Jungles and Rebirth of honour just arrived....That's less than 22 hours delivery (make sure you're home, you have too sign for it). They use Fedex International Priority/Chronopost.

Doorknob1968
01-25-2006, 02:46 AM
Regarding AH_BlueKestral's question.

This is what we are setting up now, I'm located in the U.S., so we are working on having me ship items also , this will allow us to ship from the most convient place at the lowest cost.
Sometimes it is even cheaper to ship from the US overseas to other areas. By having two shipping locations we will be able to offer better service to more people at rates that will be equal too or better than any competitor.
As mentioned earlier we are working on ways to accept more forms of payment, we realize not everyone has a credit card, or want to pay that way. The issue currently is just a matter of sorting everything out, there are fees, exchange rates, commisions for services, legalities (you can;t ship software to some parts of the world) etc that need to be considered and we want to offer our goods with as little added cost to the customer.

Within time as our store develops you will find numerous aviation related items, not just games, but books, dvds, apparel etc. this on top of some HUGE things to come for the site alone, so you'll want to keep checking in http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

As soon as items are ready to be shipped from the US also, it will be annouced at the site.
Again we feel as soon as this is set up we will be able to better serve our visitors!

PlusWave
01-27-2006, 01:20 AM
Hi Doorknob,

Bravo!
That's exactly what is needed in the US:
A shop which sells european addons in the States.

PlusWave

AH_BlueKestral
01-27-2006, 08:40 AM
S! all.
Thats what I'm talking about. I wonder how much would it cost to be a US distributor/retailer.?
I have access to a yahoo merchant account. Then of course E-bay. The pruchasing through pay pal Visa and Mastercard and even American express can be done on the site. The website I would need help on but, I have many talented members of my squadron to assist me, as well as Graphic designers at my local college looking for work. My business might start off with being an internet based business, however, when it comes to add ons for IL2FB. US retailers are more corporate minded. Rather than flight Sim minded. Even if others take up the challange and more growth appears in the US. More the better. "It's 100+ degrees and no water in sight" Contact me here at arcticblue05@yahoo.com with any details you might want to share.