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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 07:34 PM
Ok before anyone jumps up and down on me THIS IS JUST A QUESTION about the posted top speed in FB for 109 K at sea level 580kph.

And some other posted data about the 109 K listing top speed at sea level as 607kph.

http://www.bf109.com/frameset.html

DimensionsSpan 9.92m (32' 6.5"); Length 8.94m (29' 4"); Height 2.59m (8' 6"); Wing Area 16.165 sq. meters (174 sq. ft). PowerplantDaimler-Benz DB 605 ASCM/DCM twelve cylinder inverted-Vee liquid cooled engine of 1156 kW (1550 HP), (1491 kW (2000 HP) with emergency power). ArmamentTwo 13mm MG 131 machine guns mounted above the engine cowling and one 30mm MK 108 cannon firing through the spinner. WeightsMaximum loaded 3374 kg (7438 lbs). PerformanceMaximum speed 607 kph (377 mph) at sea level, 727 kph (452 mph) at 6000m (19685 ft). Initial climb rate 1470 meters/min (4823 ft/min). Climb to 5000m (16400 ft) was 3 minutes, to 10000m (32800 ft). was 6.7 minutes. Service ceiling 12500m (41000 ft). Range 587 km (365 miles), endurance 50 minutes.


http://frhewww.physik.uni-freiburg.de/~jaensch/109/s109k.htm


Anyone have a glue as to true numbers?

TKS

XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 07:34 PM
Ok before anyone jumps up and down on me THIS IS JUST A QUESTION about the posted top speed in FB for 109 K at sea level 580kph.

And some other posted data about the 109 K listing top speed at sea level as 607kph.

http://www.bf109.com/frameset.html

DimensionsSpan 9.92m (32' 6.5"); Length 8.94m (29' 4"); Height 2.59m (8' 6"); Wing Area 16.165 sq. meters (174 sq. ft). PowerplantDaimler-Benz DB 605 ASCM/DCM twelve cylinder inverted-Vee liquid cooled engine of 1156 kW (1550 HP), (1491 kW (2000 HP) with emergency power). ArmamentTwo 13mm MG 131 machine guns mounted above the engine cowling and one 30mm MK 108 cannon firing through the spinner. WeightsMaximum loaded 3374 kg (7438 lbs). PerformanceMaximum speed 607 kph (377 mph) at sea level, 727 kph (452 mph) at 6000m (19685 ft). Initial climb rate 1470 meters/min (4823 ft/min). Climb to 5000m (16400 ft) was 3 minutes, to 10000m (32800 ft). was 6.7 minutes. Service ceiling 12500m (41000 ft). Range 587 km (365 miles), endurance 50 minutes.


http://frhewww.physik.uni-freiburg.de/~jaensch/109/s109k.htm


Anyone have a glue as to true numbers?

TKS

XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 08:53 PM
109 K was produced in 3 version, with following SL speeds:

580 kph
593 kph
607 kph

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XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 09:16 PM
Its like how come we dont have any 109's with the dc motor i dont understand, also in the object viewer the f4 has a turn of 19.5 secs when in rl it turned in18 secs but dont think they would like a 109 in this game that turned with the vvs birds...

XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 09:30 PM
Ok should have said BF 109 K4 Kurfurst as this is the type we have listed in FB.

With DB605ASCM/DCM and MW-50, pressurised cabin and the Galland
hood.

Shouldn`t the top S/L speed be 607kph?


TKS

XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 11:23 PM
k4 was fly with

db605db with b4 fuel and mw50 1850ps
db605dc with c3 fuel and mw50 2000ps
db605dc with c3 fuel without mw50 1800ps

mw50 could too use as extra fuel tank


b4 87 oktan
c3 100 oktan

and it was too fly, with 2 differance propeller

so has you 6 differance speed result

with 580km/h sealevel,seem it is k4 with 1800ps


Message Edited on 09/09/0312:55AM by Skalgrim

XyZspineZyX
09-06-2003, 11:47 PM
HHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Bad gas on the eastern front I guess!!!

XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 12:26 AM
Skalgrim wrote:
- k4 was fly with
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- db605db with b4 fuel and mw50 1850ps
- db605dc with c3 fuel and mw50 2000ps
- db605d with c3 fuel only 1800ps
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- b4 87 oktan
- c3 100 oktan
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- and it was too fly, with 2 differance propeller
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- so has you many differance speed result
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- with 580km/h sealevel, have we k4 with 1800ps
-

But that is not what the Object Viewer says. Object Viewer indicates take-off hp for both the DB605DB and the DB605DC, 1850 and 2000hp respectively. It also states that the SL speed is attained with MW50 boost. Therefore the speed should match that for either 87 octane with MW50 (DB) or 96 octane with MW50 (DC).

XyZspineZyX
09-07-2003, 01:30 AM
Looks like we get the slow 1 don`t think it would be changed now.