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Azrael_Amun
01-14-2011, 11:30 PM
"Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine.
These are the words spoken by our ancestors - that lay at the heart of our creed.
Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember...nothing is true.
Where other men are limited, by morality or law, remember...everthing is permitted.
We work in the dark, to serve the light. We are assassins."

I was just curious, and I dont know if this has been posted or not, if so I apologise, what the opening line of the creed actually is? Is it Latin? If so whats it mean? I can't find any translations.

ThaWhistle
01-14-2011, 11:40 PM
arabic.

watch these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...9BD9A58537A&index=43 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZvne84HuqY&playnext=1&list=PL1274C9BD9A58537A&index=43)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_sEyky7NlY

Alpha Ender
01-15-2011, 03:04 AM
I didn't get it at first when I played through ACB, and then I played through AC again, and they mention it...somewhere. I think it's after you kill every Templar except Robert de Sable, and you are talking to Al Mualim again before going to the funeral in Jerusalem. Or maybe my time frame is completely off. Either way, it's in there somewhere, and when I was playing through, I remember hearing it and saying, "Hey! I know what that means!"

@ Krayus_Korianis: thanks. That's where I thought it was, but it's been a while since I've played all the way through on AC, so...

Krayus Korianis
01-15-2011, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by AlphaEnder:
I didn't get it at first when I played through ACB, and then I played through AC again, and they mention it...somewhere. I think it's after you kill every Templar except Robert de Sable, and you are talking to Al Mualim again before going to the funeral in Jerusalem. Or maybe my time frame is completely off. Either way, it's in there somewhere, and when I was playing through, I remember hearing it and saying, "Hey! I know what that means!"

Alta´r says Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine to Al Mualim before Al Mualim dies. At the end of the game for Alta´r.

Inorganic9_2
01-15-2011, 03:54 AM
That video...breaking the tenants? I didn't realise Al Mualim was renting property out...

matadoor2010
01-15-2011, 04:08 AM
It's a lovely creed though .. very true ,as nothing remains the same , everything can happen ..am living by the creed :P

Xanatos2007
01-15-2011, 04:37 AM
I like how they captured Hasan ibn-Sabbah's philosophy from Alamut in AC1. Since then there's been very little to do with the 'Creed' part of Assassin's Creed... come to think of it there's been very little to do with the 'Assassin' part too.

AssassinVenice
01-15-2011, 05:24 AM
Creed is something like a brotherhood

SevketErhat
01-15-2011, 07:21 AM
Live by the creed, die by the creed

Valentorg
01-15-2011, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by AssassinFirenze:
Creed is something like a brotherhood
A creed is a system of beliefs or principles, a brotherhood is a group of men united for common purposes.
A brotherhood can have a creed, but the two are not the same thing.

Azrael_Amun
01-15-2011, 01:41 PM
So the very opening "Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine" is arabic for nothing is real, everything is permitted?

RedSpider
01-15-2011, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Azrael_Amun:
So the very opening "Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine" is arabic for nothing is real, everything is permitted?

Nothing is TRUE, everything is permitted.

Xanatos2007
01-15-2011, 02:05 PM
It can be translated as either "Nothing is true/impossible, anything is permitted/possible."

I like to balance it out with "Nothing is true, anything is possible."

TrueDemonzBane
01-15-2011, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by ThaWhistle:
arabic.

watch these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...9BD9A58537A&index=43 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZvne84HuqY&playnext=1&list=PL1274C9BD9A58537A&index=43)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_sEyky7NlY after watching that first video, it makes lucy look like she's the one calling the shots, and vidic is her lacky

maglaromuna
01-17-2011, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by TrueDemonsBane:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ThaWhistle:
arabic.

watch these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...9BD9A58537A&index=43 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZvne84HuqY&playnext=1&list=PL1274C9BD9A58537A&index=43)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_sEyky7NlY after watching that first video, it makes lucy look like she's the one calling the shots, and vidic is her lacky </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

(insert shocked face)

RzaRecta357
01-17-2011, 05:19 PM
I love how Ezio's family and brotherhood totally have the true meaning of the phrase wrong. It's so not how Al Mualim describes it to Altair.

Meant to be a guide.

Not meant to be, hey im an assassin and i'll do what I want.

ThaWhistle
01-17-2011, 11:00 PM
It therefore is exactly right. Because nothing is true, therefore continuity between games is optional. Desmond can all of a sudden change sweatshirts, or gain extra neck vertebrae, and Lucy's lips can swell up to the size of a pair of small dogs.

Why?

Because nothing is true, and Everything is permitted. Even Vidic wearing an evil pink templar tutu which gives him the ability to spin really fast and become a helicopter and shoot lasers out of us neck tie. Oh, and he doesnt have legs anymore, he walks on a pair of monster trucks that have boobs for tires. Did I mention ezios mom will all of a sudden become a milf? despite being nearly 60 or 70 at some point?

Scotch and no sleep... deadly.