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FltLt_HardBall
02-28-2006, 08:09 AM
Get it here (http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=144&t=003675)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b30/fltlt_hardball/Avatars/HardBall_4_04.gif

Enjoy

AKA_TAGERT
02-28-2006, 08:16 AM
hela cool thanks!

JarheadEd
02-28-2006, 08:46 AM
Wootage! Woot-a-Roni,Woot-a-laya, Woot-a-licious,

Ahhhh you know,..Thanks.

TgD Thunderbolt56
02-28-2006, 08:54 AM
nice...thx

DaimonSyrius
02-28-2006, 12:10 PM
Sometimes I find myself in trouble to keep up with the multi-forum approach http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Just trying to get my message to reach HardBall, I posted this in ORR (where he had posted his, too):


Originally posted by DaimonSyrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FltLt_HardBall:
Check it out here (http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=144&t=003675)

Enjoy

Thanks for that great tool and all the work you must have put in it, Hardball http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

If I may make a suggestion, the text in your linked post on SimHQ mentions

Note on installation: The packaged installer doesn€t run successfully for some users. It is recommended that any users having problems should refer to €œFor any other install problems, try this€ towards the bottom of this document. That technique seems pretty bullet-proof.
But it stops there (in the post). Then, the "Readme for HardBall 4_04.rtf", where this is further explained, is buried within the *.cab file which is buried within the *.zip file, so it takes a mild head-scratching to figure it out http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Nothing really stopping the average user, I guess, but my suggestion would be to put the Readme file at the *.zip level, rather than in the *.cab. I'm sure you'll see what I mean, even if this may sound confusing at first sight http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

An additional observation here, this is just my preference: I tend to steer clear, as much as I can, of 'Setup' routines that may try to add or replace system files, although I understand the good reasons of simplicity that the developers are taking into account. For this reason, instead of actually following the Readme instructions for manual install

For any other install problems, try this:
Extract the hardball CAB file to a folder and run the executable from there. Note that you should do this after running 'setup.exe', which will have copied the other necessary files to your system.
I first tried my best "user-simplicity option", which is just extracting the whole lot to my selected folder, including the system libraries, and run it from there (skipping the 'Setup' step). It actually works well for me (although I'm aware that the combination with IL2-Stab might be affected by this (?))

And a final question, the screenshot you have posted here shows "HardBall's Aircraft Viewer 4.03" (it shows that way for me too when I run it); while the name of the package and of several files, including the main application executable show like "HardBall's_Aircraft_Viewer_4_04.exe". Just wanted to let you know and check, is this correct?

Again, thanks for this and the other, previous versions I have enjoyed from your kindness and dedication http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Cheers,
S. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

FltLt_HardBall
02-28-2006, 10:26 PM
OK, I updated my program to correct the issues brought up by community members. Check it out at the link mentioned in my first post. Thanks to those who provided me with feedback.

carguy_
03-01-2006, 02:47 AM
Be careful people.I wanted to install this program.Got an install error everytime plus the setup places new dlls in the system.Had I not backed everything up my windows would have been ruined by this program.

xTHRUDx
03-01-2006, 03:20 AM
i've used every version he's put out. never had any trouble at all.

the setup asked me if i wanted to install a DLL that was older than the one i had, i said no. it installed fine and works fine.

DaimonSyrius
03-01-2006, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by carguy_:
I wanted to install this program.Got an install error everytime plus the setup places new dlls in the system
carguy,

If you still would like to and use the Aircraft Viewer, just try as I commented above, it's been all fine for me (and has been for previous versions, it's a good tool).

Originally posted by DaimonSyrius:
An additional observation here, this is just my preference: I tend to steer clear, as much as I can, of 'Setup' routines that may try to add or replace system files
.../...
I first tried my best "user-simplicity option", which is just extracting the whole lot to my selected folder, including the system libraries, and run it from there (skipping the 'Setup' step).

Cheers,
S.

FltLt_HardBall
03-01-2006, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by carguy_:
Got an install error everytime plus the setup places new dlls in the system.

Dude, most programs install new .dlls - that's how they work.

I used MS Visual Basic 6 to write this program, and the installation packager it uses has not worked correctly for a very few users. I address this issue in the ReadMe file and suggest an effective workaround, as per DaimonSyrius's post in this thread.

Might I respectfully suggest that you take a deep breath, RTFM, and try again.

Vacillator
03-01-2006, 07:45 AM
Hardball, thanks man! Great piece of work and installed flawlessly here!

Walrus-
03-01-2006, 11:32 AM
Does anyone know if the Aircraft viewer is accurate for in-game performance specs, or are the numbers from real-life specs? (or can we really believe that they would be exactly the same?)

FltLt_HardBall
03-01-2006, 06:35 PM
Data is in-game wherever possible.

clayman_52
03-01-2006, 07:00 PM
Thanks again Hardball ... works for me, as always!

Walrus-
03-01-2006, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by FltLt_HardBall:
Data is in-game wherever possible.

First off, thanks for all your effort on this project!

Second, can you tell me if turning times are from in-game testing, or published data about the actual aircraft. And if from in-game testing, who did the testing, and in which game version?

FltLt_HardBall
03-02-2006, 05:56 AM
Any turn times present are from the last publicly-available version of IL-2 Compare which was version 2.5 for IL-2 version 3.02

Even if they have changed somewhat since then they should still reflect relative turn performance between aircraft. That's the best I can do for now.

major_setback
03-02-2006, 11:50 AM
@ FltLt Hardball -

Do I uninstall the old one first, or just install over it...or doesn't it matter?



Thanks for the viewer, it comes in very handy in showing which aircraft best suit for beating the other side.

It's also very useful for showing how subsequent marks of aircraft aren't always better (in all respects) compared to previous marks.

FltLt_HardBall
03-02-2006, 06:52 PM
You may as well un-install the old one since it's out of date now. Two programs can run separately with no problem, but there's not much point.

I'm glad you're finding it useful.

mortoma
03-03-2006, 04:44 PM
I can't get it to run in Win98. Anyone have any suggestions? Most newer programs I try will still run in 98 but not this one. I guess most professional programmers are still asked to program software to be able to run in 98 because most of the new software out there now that I try runs in it. Just wish this one did. Oh well.

FltLt_HardBall
03-03-2006, 08:10 PM
There was one other Windows98 user who couldn't get it to work, either. I don't know why (I'm not a professional programmer). Are there any 98 users who are using my program OK?

98 SE was a great OS, butI guess its time has passed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

RAF33-Shrike
03-04-2006, 06:25 PM
Hardball, Professional Programmer here. I think there may be a partial or no runtime install going on in the setup util. Win98 doesnt have VB6 Runtime installed from the box, but XP does, therefore thats prob the reason. ask the 98 users to download the vb6run from miscrosoft first or supply it alongside like jirik does with hyperlobby. are you using directx to render the aircraft?, make sure your vb6 is on sp6 and dx9c dev lib. possible old dx .dll are getting included in your res files.

p.s. nice job on the writing the program http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

FltLt_HardBall
03-04-2006, 06:37 PM
Hi RAF33-Shrike - thanks for your reply. The images are just little .gif screenshots so there's no rendering going on AFAIK; the program is a pretty simple one, really.

mortoma: Could you try installing VB6 Runtime and let us know what happens? Cheers.

EiZ0N
03-04-2006, 07:20 PM
Thanks for this program HardBall, it's very useful for me... I often find myself wondering what plane to choose, but now I've had a good read through your program and have a better idea of what planes are generally accepted to be better.

RAF33-Shrike
03-04-2006, 07:21 PM
no prob, took a little hunting, but i found the download link for the vb6 runtime.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyI...FFB3C&displaylang=en (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=7B9BA261-7A9C-43E7-9117-F673077FFB3C&displaylang=en)

by the way Hardball, its worth checking out the new .NET Express version of VB, its free, and easy to use http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif plus the support for it is easier to find as its the latest technology http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.
it can be got from here...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vb/

TheGozr
03-04-2006, 07:58 PM
A question here..

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/9631064914

mortoma
03-04-2006, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by FltLt_HardBall:
Hi RAF33-Shrike - thanks for your reply. The images are just little .gif screenshots so there's no rendering going on AFAIK; the program is a pretty simple one, really.

mortoma: Could you try installing VB6 Runtime and let us know what happens? Cheers. Ok, sorry, I have not visited this site for a while, hang out at SimHQ nuthouse more often. Thanks HB, you are da man for sure. I will try that VB
program and let you know.

mortoma
03-04-2006, 09:48 PM
I tried that VB runtime download but I was unsure where to extract it to. There is no info on where to put it to get it to work, tried several places, including the folder where I installed your program. Still don't work, before I was getting an error message that simply said <span class="ev_code_RED">"Unexpected error"</span>, now I just get one that says <span class="ev_code_RED">"The OLEAUT32.DLL file cannot start. Check the file to Determine the problem."</span> That's all I get. When I try to install the viewer using the setup installer, it replaces that oleaut32.dll file and another one with the viewers new ones. And then the viewers still won't work and I get a problem with my Belkin wireless internet Monitor program. It will not work with the two new DLL files. So I have to copy the old versions back into my Windows folder.

FltLt_HardBall
03-05-2006, 12:56 AM
Extract the runtime files to a temporary folder, then there should be a "setup.exe" file you can run from there to install it.

Then try extracting the "HardBall's_Aircraft_Viewer_4_04.CAB" file into a separate folder, then run the program from there. This alternative to standard installation seems to work well for most people.

TheGozr
03-05-2006, 02:39 PM
Please HardBall answer my question, there actually no problem if the data are from conducted tests, just wanted to know from where the data are from it is to ovoid many discusions.

Thank you.

FltLt_HardBall
03-05-2006, 09:49 PM
TheGozr, I checked the link you posted, but it's dead.

I answered your question in the other thread -check it out here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/6411066714)

i hope this helps.

TheGozr
03-06-2006, 02:52 PM
Thanks for the answer i'll use it with care. i remind you again that it's a good work.

baxter1954
03-06-2006, 06:25 PM
Thanks for this Viewer...it's great!

woofiedog
03-09-2006, 02:10 AM
Thank's for a Great Program... Extremely Mint work!
Again Thank's