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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 04:40 PM
Everytime I and my group meet some other enemy aircraft in an campaign mission, they go head on. I order my group to attack, and they go head on; always loosing 1-3 friendy aircraft in exchange of a couple of enemies destroyed. A head on attack is almost 50-50 of getting killed or get a kill, so why the hell do they do it? I have heard (discovery channel) that head on attacks were almost never done in real life, the pilots cherished their lifes a bit more than these AIs appearently do.

Btw, I often discover enemy airplanes because of their tracers when they shoot, often at very long distances away. Did any aces in WW2 use tracer-less bullets? After some combat most pilots know where their bullets go, where to fire when deflection shooting and so on, so why not use no tracers and dont get detected by enemy so easily?

XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 04:40 PM
Everytime I and my group meet some other enemy aircraft in an campaign mission, they go head on. I order my group to attack, and they go head on; always loosing 1-3 friendy aircraft in exchange of a couple of enemies destroyed. A head on attack is almost 50-50 of getting killed or get a kill, so why the hell do they do it? I have heard (discovery channel) that head on attacks were almost never done in real life, the pilots cherished their lifes a bit more than these AIs appearently do.

Btw, I often discover enemy airplanes because of their tracers when they shoot, often at very long distances away. Did any aces in WW2 use tracer-less bullets? After some combat most pilots know where their bullets go, where to fire when deflection shooting and so on, so why not use no tracers and dont get detected by enemy so easily?

XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 05:04 PM
Ya I hear ya Broder. When offline I'm flying a P39N1 (my fav bird) campaign. So far we have almost exclussively engaged 190A4's and A5's. They almost always start at a greater alt and always outnumber us.

But what REALLY bothers me is whe our flights are closing I tell my guys to engage hoping they will at least try to defend themselves, buuuuuuuut no. I have watched so many times as one FW190 after another dives down and BnZ's my entire flight.

So many times as I'm the only one taking evasive action (even though they have called out "Fighters!" and I've ordered them to engage) I watched every plane explode and in 5 seconds I am alone against 8 or more 190's LOL Very very very sad....... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

And that boys and girls is why I fly online 99% of the time.


S~ RCAF_Trout

XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 05:13 PM
Head on attacks were standard operating procedure for German fighters engaging American heavy bombers. I am not aware that head on attacks were otherwise usual other than the general dictum that it is better to have an enemey fighter to your front than to your rear.

In the later years of the war, American fighter pilots flying bomber escort did forego tracers and their scroses improved. The P-47D-27 in FB does not appear to use any tracers. In WWII, most pilots who were shot down never saw the aircraft that got them.

I know not what course others may choose, but as for me, give me computer games or give me television!

XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 05:29 PM
AI are very stupid. I wish I could give this command to them "CONSERVE YOUR FREAKING AMMO!"

Da Buzz
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XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 05:45 PM
LOL!!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Ya forgot about that one Buzz! But you're right. Boy those AI just love to hold the trigger down even when they're missing.

S~ RCAF_Trout

XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 07:03 PM
Too true! But funny how one AI plane often misses another but is a fantastic shot when it comes to us human players. AI is weirdly erratic but guess that's to be expected, as it's, well, AI.

Often it's like 'Fighters! 11 o'clock! 3km - open up lads! One 10 second burst should do it. Is it time to crash now?'.

Or equally 5 deadly shots in 109 F4s chasing my I-16 down, resulting in an early bath for yt (not so unrealistic I guess).

The guys who put experten campaigns together seem to have brought it more under control somehow.

XyZspineZyX
06-25-2003, 08:57 PM
bazzaah2 wrote:
Often it's like 'Fighters! 11 o'clock! 3km - open up
- lads! One 10 second burst should do it. Is it time
- to crash now?'.

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