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melendir
12-19-2004, 02:56 PM
I have this problem:
When I'm leading the squadron and order a formation change, AI pilots very often crash each other. I tried to avoid this by asking them to loosen the formation, they tried to loosen the formation and doing that they very often crash each other.

I watched the loosen the formation movement externally and it seems that first wingman moves first and then the other tries to move after that and usually too late.
Maybe it should happen other way, so they start moving at the same time.

Maybe this could be fixed in future updates.

It was a little annoying especially in one ground attack -mission where I leaded the squadron of 6 planes (me included) and they crashed each other with loosen the formation -command, so after that I was the only one flying.

I would like to see this fixed in future updates if possible. If not. Well it's still absolute fun game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

melendir
12-19-2004, 02:56 PM
I have this problem:
When I'm leading the squadron and order a formation change, AI pilots very often crash each other. I tried to avoid this by asking them to loosen the formation, they tried to loosen the formation and doing that they very often crash each other.

I watched the loosen the formation movement externally and it seems that first wingman moves first and then the other tries to move after that and usually too late.
Maybe it should happen other way, so they start moving at the same time.

Maybe this could be fixed in future updates.

It was a little annoying especially in one ground attack -mission where I leaded the squadron of 6 planes (me included) and they crashed each other with loosen the formation -command, so after that I was the only one flying.

I would like to see this fixed in future updates if possible. If not. Well it's still absolute fun game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Latico
12-19-2004, 03:48 PM
I haven't seen this problem, myself. Could it be that you are not maintaining a staight and level course while the AI's are attempting to change formation? Try going to autopilot before giving the order to change formation and see if that helps.

DarkCanuck420
12-19-2004, 03:57 PM
is autopilot the only way to fly straight? does flying straight for everyone else require a lot of attention to the joystick, and level gauge?
it seems that the ai has got it down pat. if its difficult to fly straight then it should be the same for ai planes too.

Tully__
12-19-2004, 07:15 PM
Autopilot is the only way to fly hands off straight and level, but careful trimming can significantly reduce how much attention you need to pay. Some more information about using trim can be found here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=3481017842&r=2291047842#2291047842)

melendir
12-19-2004, 11:32 PM
I've tried also autopilot when I wanted to watch the AI reaction to squadron commands from external view. In fact when banking slightly they don't get so close each other so often ???

But anyway could it be bad formation? I usually use the formation that they take after take off and when I ask them to Rejoin.
But I'm too scared to change the formation to another http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And about the straight flying issue... We can fly straight with a lot of practice in many sims over the years and with the careful trimming http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Latico
12-19-2004, 11:49 PM
I only suggested that he use autopilot to assure thaqt his plane is flying steady. That way he could use external view to watch the AI's as they change formation.

The AI's fly off of the leaders point. if the leader is not maintaining a fairly steady course, it could cause the AI's to collide during formation change.

And no, it's not that difficult to fly straight and level without using autopilot.