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TheGozr
08-22-2007, 10:10 AM
Just did test Condor Competition Soaring Simulation ..

Pretty cool actually I like it,

The FM seems very well done http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Very Very surprising ..

Who has it? And btw Trackir work

A little video made last night and first sortie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfCLeq3lfnY

p-11.cAce
08-22-2007, 11:03 AM
I fly sailplanes in RL (pw-5 and L-23) and have had Condor on my HD since 2005. Really great sim, probably the best dynamic weather model of any sim, and a strong and ever growing online competition community. My club (Caesar Creek) and many others have condor comps along with the real comps to help keep member active through bad weather and slow winter season.

Viper2005_
08-22-2007, 05:05 PM
does it have an Astir?

knightflyte
08-22-2007, 08:10 PM
The torque is overmodelled. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Antisub
08-22-2007, 08:45 PM
Does anyone know how it compares both flight dynamics-wise and graphics-wise to the two latest MS flight sims?

knightflyte
08-23-2007, 12:52 PM
Is there a demo at the site? I looked and couldn't find one. I DID have it on my last computer, but I lost it. I'd like to try it with the new system.

There are clips to download that show the detail of the graphics, Antisub.

They look very functional but do lack the graphical punch of MSFSX.

At the time I had the demo, IL2 was my sim of choice (still is). I'd like to diversify my flight interest again and see how the flight dynamics of Condor are in more detailed examination.

han freak solo
08-23-2007, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by knightflyte:
The torque is overmodelled. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

I beg to differ.

RocketDog
08-23-2007, 01:45 PM
No Astir, I'm afraid. The focus is on modern racing gliders so the stuff I might actually be able to afford isn't in there - no Cirrus, Libelle, Astir etc (IRL I own a Club Libelle).

Graphically, it's about as good as IL-2 or maybe a bit worse, and lags far behind FSX. However, the flight modelling and the thermal modelling is very good indeed. I like it.

Cheers,

RD.

TheGozr
08-23-2007, 04:24 PM
Running ultra smooth and the image is very clean the interface easy, simple , Clean. The FM world is far ahead of il2 no doubt you want to feel more what is like to be upthere well try it. It's probably what will be SOW actually.
When you think of this while flying Condor is how good SOW will be if they do implement the physics into SOW and ... they will.

TX-EcoDragon
08-23-2007, 04:52 PM
Yes, it's a great sim!

Jatro13th
08-24-2007, 05:54 AM
Excellent sim!!!!

Bremspropeller
08-24-2007, 06:02 AM
By far the best soaring sim.

http://www.condorsoaring.com/index.htm

Severals plane-packs are under development.
Maybe some time you'll get your Astir (which one? CS? CS 77? Jeans? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif )

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

RocketDog
08-24-2007, 08:52 AM
Shameless glider posting. Here is my Club Libelle. The trailing-edge airbrakes are so effective it is possible to point the aircraft vertically downwards and not overspeed - meaning that it shares another property of the Ju-87 beyond the lift/drag ratio (I have not tried this yet because I am a coward).

Cheers,

RD.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/RocketDog/Club_Libelle_716/DSC01798.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/RocketDog/Club_Libelle_716/DSC01820-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/RocketDog/Club_Libelle_716/DSC01552.jpg

Bremspropeller
08-24-2007, 09:05 AM
The trailing-edge airbrakes are so effective it is possible to point the aircraft vertically downwards and not overspeed

All gliders have this feature.

Is Echo Hotel Mike an ASW-18 or a Ka 6?

RocketDog
08-24-2007, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by Bremspropeller:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The trailing-edge airbrakes are so effective it is possible to point the aircraft vertically downwards and not overspeed

All gliders have this feature.

Is Echo Hotel Mike an ASW-18 or a Ka 6? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

EHM is a very clean K6e.

AFAIK most modern gliders (from the last few decades) have brakes that only speed limit in 30 or 45-degree dives rather than 90-degree ones.

Cheers,

RD.

p-11.cAce
08-24-2007, 10:04 AM
looks like that rear hinged canopy could make for a very bad day - I'm always worried about the rear canopy in our club ask-21 popping open at an inopportune time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Supposedly it will rip free but who knows what it will hit on the way out!

Bremspropeller
08-24-2007, 10:15 AM
AFAIK most modern gliders (from the last few decades) have brakes that only speed limit in 30 or 45-degree dives rather than 90-degree ones.


I'm not quite sure - 45 degrees at least yeah.

But I can remember reading that in one flight-manual; I dunno of which plane anymore, however http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif (90 degrees)

Bremspropeller
08-24-2007, 10:20 AM
As for shameless glider posting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://img-a5.ak.imagevz.net/photo1/db/50/0956fa0b54a29548027d3921e82e/1-7f9a9ce0369e926d.jpg
Not mine, but was owned by the club - well, till somebody crashed it a few months ago http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

http://img-a5.ak.imagevz.net/albums/de/2007-07/10/Lf8XTBV/hhn2VqY-2211880.jpg
That was after my first two solos (I'm the guy with the white hat)

http://img-a2.ak.imagevz.net/photo1/89/b4/cbe9794b831248e8bb894647f68f/1-6d0b06c09e78e90b.jpg
Me in our ASW-28.
That bird was smashed as well this year http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Superluminal_8
08-24-2007, 11:09 AM
What is that beeping noise?

Bremspropeller
08-24-2007, 02:40 PM
Electronical variometer.

High pitched beepings indicate climb. Low pitched continuous tones indicate sink.
The higher the peep, the better the climb. The lower the continuous tone, the worse the sink.


The lil thingy keeps you from nailing your eyes on the "analog" variometer and helps to prevent collisions as you can keep your eyes out of the plane and still get a good impression of your vertical speed by acoustic signals.

slipBall
08-24-2007, 03:23 PM
Nice looking bird Brems!.....in the cinema the good guys always wear white hats http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

RocketDog
08-24-2007, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by p-11.cAce:
looks like that rear hinged canopy could make for a very bad day - I'm always worried about the rear canopy in our club ask-21 popping open at an inopportune time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Supposedly it will rip free but who knows what it will hit on the way out!

The Club Libelle has a really solid lock at the nose-end of the canopy so I'm not worried about it too much. In fact, I quite like the rear-hinged canopy because if I have to get out in a hurry it should help blow the canopy open and break it free - a bit like a Roeger hook. If you look on the DG web site there are some movies showing how hard it can be to remove a normal canopy once it is loose at both ends. See here http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/roegerhaken-e.html quite frightening. Not that it would put me off a normal canopy, but I'd want to fit a Roeger hook if I had one. Pressing CTRL-E in IL-2 is much easier http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Cheers,

RD.

Bremspropeller
08-25-2007, 11:13 AM
To avoid these situations Prof. Roeger of the Aachen University of Applied Sciences many years ago invented a special hook, since named for him.

Guess where I am studying http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

The ASK-21 rear canopy can't go anywhere than get off backwards, as emergency jettison is made by unlocking the fwd pins and opening the canopy. It's still hinged to the airframe. The hinges, however, will break as the canopy swings open.
Therefore the canopy will swing upwards and away from the pilot.

Charos
08-27-2007, 05:59 PM
Condor is fantastic.

Anyone want a sneak peak this video is highly recommended.

Condor Essence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9pAjqiRg3c&mode=related&search=)

AeroSign
08-31-2007, 01:19 PM
I agree, Condor is great! For competition soaring as for virtual aerobatics.

Shameless... glider thread :-)

Here is my "H101 Salto". It's actually based on the Libelle. The wing is essentially the same though the Salto has a shorter wing span. In 13.6 meter configuratiion it is permitted to do unlimited aerobatics. I got wingtip extensins to 15.5 meter. But I don't use those much.


http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_files/photo_albums/9/9/1/9911047685/3021047685_E77CB8281FB1A7543D183368DF27C4AB.JPG

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_files/photo_albums/9/9/1/9911047685/2021047685_A1E19C9871D4EECE04F7B8555DAEB327.JPG