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TX-EcoDragon
05-27-2005, 04:08 PM
http://www.ipacs.de/download/shockypps4d.wmv


Dude. . . they don't even try to hide it anymore!!! For shame!!



:-D

crazyivan1970
05-27-2005, 04:10 PM
Dang... that`s it, i`v had it with those cheaters http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

zlin
05-27-2005, 04:16 PM
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BuzzU
05-27-2005, 04:29 PM
Looks like the new FM.

BSS_CUDA
05-27-2005, 04:35 PM
looks like a 109 I fought earlier today http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif sure doesnt look like my 38 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

DarkBlueMan
05-27-2005, 04:41 PM
Prop Pitch? Trim on a slider too I fancy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

vocatx
05-27-2005, 06:56 PM
I guess I missed something in the "Il-2 Set-up Explained" thread. Just what do I need to change in my config to enable my 109 to do that?

T_O_A_D
05-27-2005, 07:09 PM
Those R/c guys that do that for real, are amazing. I would get so flustered so fast working all those controls, well what a mess.

Just be glad tehy don't make a plane big enough to ride in and was R/C. Becuase some one would be more than glad to shake you up till your inerds came out LOL

WUAF_Toad
05-27-2005, 10:26 PM
well I'm pwned... he even mastered the reverse prop pitch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

LeadSpitter_
05-27-2005, 10:43 PM
to funny http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Wallstein
05-28-2005, 03:06 AM
You rascal you published a leaked presentation of the new FM. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Wallstein

Finkeren
05-28-2005, 03:13 AM
looks like a new version of external view too, and I don't quite remember seeing that place on any of the maps. Does this mean that we'll finaly have the "training hall" map in PF? Man I've waited a long time for that.

reverendkrv1972
05-28-2005, 06:08 AM
thats cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Maj_Death
05-28-2005, 08:51 AM
LOL, someone hacked an RC flight sim. There isn't any physical reason as to why an RC plane couldn't do that stuff but I've never seen one that has variable prop pitch and reverse pitch I've never even heard of. If someone really wanted I'm sure they could do it but I doubt it's been done. I would love for someone to prove me wrong by digging up a real video of one doing that though. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

TX-EcoDragon
05-28-2005, 01:37 PM
Actually Maj_Death, this is not a mod, it's the recently released beta patch for an R/C Sim that is, believe it or not, lagging behind the actual technology that many RC pilots are already using.

And let's not forget Wayne Handley's full scale TurboRaven that demonstrated this idea back in 1999!

In the R/C realm They call it 4D flying. . instead of 3D. Originally people were using electric helicopter tail rotors in place of the prop to create a variable pith prop. With a hollow shaft direct drive outrunner motor the pitch of the blades is controlled by a pushrod that passes through the driveshaft, and is controlled by an additional servo. Now there are production VPP units.

Depending on the transmitter set up pilots usually use an idle up/throttle hold heli mode to hold the motor at near max power the entire time, and then the throttle stick controls prop pitch only, so having the stick at the 50% point results in flat blades, less than 50% is reverse pitch, and more is forward. . .etc.

Here are a couple videos of it in use:


http://www.rcgroups.com/gallery/data/506/1636YAK54-VPP1.wmv


Here is it in use by Scott Foster at the 2005 ETOC:

http://67.18.81.100/rcuvideos/magazine/reviews/509/scottfoster.wmv

Here is a plane that includes this VPP in the kit: http://www.hobby-lobby.com/animal.htm

for the DIY types here is a how to article: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285023
here is the VPP kit itself: http://www.hobby-lobby.com/variablepitch.htm

and here is a link to this RC sim AeroFly Pro Deluxe:
http://www.aeroflypro.com/

LimaZulu
05-28-2005, 07:27 PM
Man, what the power to weight ratio on those things?

LZ

TX-EcoDragon
05-28-2005, 08:14 PM
The ones in those videos each weight about 8.0 oz, and generate about 18 oz of thrust. 3:1 isn't uncommon for the ones that are intended for outdoor flying. I have a 44 inch span Extra (large for a foamy) that weighs 12 oz and generates a peak of 35 oz of thrust! weeeeee

OldMan____
05-28-2005, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by TX-EcoDragon:
The ones in those videos each weight about 8.0 oz, and generate about 18 oz of thrust. 3:1 isn't uncommon for the ones that are intended for outdoor flying. I have a 44 inch span Extra (large for a foamy) that weighs 12 oz and generates a peak of 35 oz of thrust! weeeeee

I really have no Idea how much an oz is... only oz I know of is Wizard of Oz.

Monson74
05-29-2005, 03:23 AM
Cheating? Nah - it's just a Spit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif