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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 03:11 AM
Can someone point me to some infor on how to land the 109! I have lost many planes by being blown up when landing after a mission - i just cannot land properly!

Thanks
Shelton

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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 03:11 AM
Can someone point me to some infor on how to land the 109! I have lost many planes by being blown up when landing after a mission - i just cannot land properly!

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Shelton

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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 03:17 AM
It's all about the approach.

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 03:25 AM
Don't come in too high, come in low using about 40% throttle to hold the altitude, land it by slowly cutting throttle, if you're to low on final just add some throttle and it'll keep flying...
I think the they forgot the ground effect when they made the game, if it was coded you wouldn't have a problem in comming in high and levelling off on landing.

fluke39
07-04-2003, 03:25 AM
i do not know of any sources but someone will

IMO the main key is to touch down gently - that is to lose altitude very slowly.

it may help to take a long run up (flying from 200 ft downward)- to get the plane flying level or losing altitude very very slowly. approach speed IMO would be about 140-160 mph - that way you can control the descent without gravity taking over and pulling you down before you are ready- this is probably alot faster than you should do it but it wont bust you up or anything - i practiced for a while in the air trying to fly at landing speed (gear and flaps down) and keeping the same altitude - without dropping or rolling - if you can do that then you should be able to land with few other problems

when wheels are down i cut engine straight away - steer with rudder -possibly bit of airleron to steady- and apply brakes by tapping

all in all this is probably cr*p explanation and someone will probably give you better one /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


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Message Edited on 07/04/0303:27AM by fluke39

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 04:28 AM
if you can land other planes but not the 109 it is likely you are using too much flap and not enough throttle



early 109's particualrly the Emil are far to heavy to land with full flap and no throttle


either
-- maintain a minimum 15% throttle with landing flaps until wheels are down
or else
-- land with less flap .. takeoff or combat both are OK deadstick

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 04:47 AM
Did you watch training mission in FB? It should help you well.

Regards
SnowLeopard

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 04:49 AM
Don't land with bombs Dave /i/smilies/16x16_robot-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 05:58 AM
First bleed speed by turning horizontally with opposite rudder until you're at 350. Then flaps out, engine to 40-60%, gear down. Then just slide gently. For early war 109's aim to land at 180km/h, for latewar birds at 200-220km/h.
Don't cut the throttle too much too soon or you will slow down too much, then smash into the field with too much force -> bye bye undercarriage.
Also, use wide view and do not use the gunsight view (shift-f1), this way you can "feel" accelerations and vibrations better.

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 08:00 AM
Heuristic_ALgor wrote:
- Don't land with bombs Dave <img

Why not?
It will make a nice firework!!!
:-))

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 08:31 AM
Yes, werre gave very good instructions. I use very similar way, but a bit more aggressive method to land quicker during onlinebattles: I had many times been able to utilize it even if enemy was chasing me. First off you can fly as fast as needed over your airfield paraller to it very low. After you have passed it about 500m chop the throttle and start making a hard break (left or right, no matter) with altitude of 200-300m and keep turning untill your speed drops to 300km/h. Flaps down, gear down, throttle to 35-40% and nose towards field pointing beginning of runway. Your speed should drop to 200km/h while gliding those about 500m's towards field. Easen the glide towards end; if speed drops below 180 add some throttle. Just a second before touchdown cut the throttle completely and instantly; it reduces the bounce tremendously.

With experience you are able to cut those distances shorter to be able to land even more quicker and making the chaser usually to overshoot (if he is as poor shooter as I am)

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 12:09 PM
I normally approach a little slower at around 180Kph full landing flaps.

Watch out for idle throttle! Keep the power at around 20% Minimum, if you go to 0% the engine can take a while to spool back up (prop pitch mainly) if CEM is on and pp on auto. Happened a couple of times to me where I could get enough power for a go-around after something nasty happened on the field. I now tend to use 100% Manual PP on landing.

I touch down at around 150-160 Kph. As soon as the main gear is down pull up the flaps. You are less likely to become airborne again! Also if safe kill the engine and start applying the brakes. Keep the stick pulled back as you use the breaks to prevent nosing over.

You can land 300M behind the guys in front and come to a complete stop very quickly. If you need to taxi (clear the runway) then don't kill the engine, just go to idle throttle.

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 12:59 PM
thanks for all your help

I was trying to land at 100kms/hr !!
too slow therefore I was stalling.

Cheers
Shelton

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