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The.Tyke
11-26-2008, 08:47 AM
Albeit in 8/10 ths scale for the Dambusters remake. The black labrador now begs to the name 'Nidge'. Stephen Fry is writing the screenplay. Release date 2010.

GBrutus
11-26-2008, 09:03 AM
Are the cast going to be 8/10ths scale too? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Seriously though, glad this film is still going ahead. Linkage?

Warrington_Wolf
11-26-2008, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by GBrutus:
Are the cast going to be 8/10ths scale too? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif They sure are, I've heard that Tom Cruise has already been approached to play Guy Gibson http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif.

leitmotiv
11-26-2008, 10:18 AM
I don't think Stephen Fry was the person to do this adaptation---he does very literary stuff. I'll wager he will play havoc with the history.

HayateAce
11-26-2008, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by Warrington_Wolf:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GBrutus:
Are the cast going to be 8/10ths scale too? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif They sure are, I've heard that Tom Cruise has already been approached to play Guy Gibson http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Post of the year.

Zeus-cat
11-26-2008, 12:25 PM
I might go see the movie where Tom Cruise plays the guy who tried to blow up Hitler; I think the movie is called Valkyrie.

If nothing else, Mr. Cruise gets executed at the end. That would probably be worth the admission price alone - at the second run discount theater - on bargain night.

Uufflakke
11-26-2008, 12:59 PM
Stephen Fry is writing the script and the producer is Peter Jackson just like The.Tyke said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dam_Busters_(film)#Remake

Did somebody mention the name of Tom Cruise here? Mmm, I don't think it is a good idea to say something about him here. 'Cause I think I will get a permanent ban. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

ZappaTime
11-26-2008, 01:08 PM
Anybody who's watched QI will know Stephen Fry is a stickler for accuracy and correctness, I doubt very much that he would consider 'changing history' for the sake of literary prose, in fact I'm surprised he's still doing it if N*gger has been changed to be pc

WTE_Galway
11-26-2008, 03:43 PM
I am off to see "Australai" later today so it will be interesting to see just how accurate or otherwise the Japanese bombing of Darwin will be presented.

arthursmedley
11-26-2008, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
I don't think Stephen Fry was the person to do this adaptation---he does very literary stuff. I'll wager he will play havoc with the history.

I'm not too sure. Has Stephen Fry written a major screen play yet?
Gibson was certainly a more complex character than the cardboard cut-out hero the 1954 film turned him into.

Dear God, no, not Tom Cruise please!

Aaron_GT
11-26-2008, 04:20 PM
Gibson was certainly a more complex character than the cardboard cut-out hero the 1954 film turned him into.

Fry seems to delight in such complexity, though.


Has Stephen Fry written a major screen play yet?

Bright Young Things.

CadMan_99
11-26-2008, 04:28 PM
The Dambusters Movie in production link

http://www.wetaworkshop.co.nz/projects/filmography/film/thedambusters

Skoshi Tiger
11-26-2008, 04:30 PM
I wonder how a younger more modern audience will react to the 'hi tech'system used to maintain altitude during the bombing run.

A friend of mine is a science teacher. His favourite story was about when he showed a video about the Bombing of Hiroshima to one of his senior science classes. At the end he asked if there was any questions. One bright lad put up his hand and asked why they used such 'Old' planes!!!!!

The.Tyke
11-26-2008, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Warrington_Wolf:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GBrutus:
Are the cast going to be 8/10ths scale too? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif They sure are, I've heard that Tom Cruise has already been approached to play Guy Gibson http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

BRILLIANT !! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Airmail109
11-26-2008, 05:24 PM
Stephen Fry has the ego the size of an Airbus, he'll play with the script no doubt.

MB_Avro_UK
11-26-2008, 05:27 PM
Hi all,

Who would you cast as actors? The RAF at that time was a mix of so many countries.

The RAF in WW2 was more 'mixed' perhaps than any other Air Force in WW2? And no segragation either.


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Jex_TE
11-30-2008, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by MB_Avro_UK:
Hi all,

Who would you cast as actors? The RAF at that time was a mix of so many countries.

The RAF in WW2 was more 'mixed' perhaps than any other Air Force in WW2? And no segragation either.


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

We've got loads of polish immigrants over here in the UK - perhaps we could grab a few of them?

KRISTORF
11-30-2008, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by Jex_TE:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MB_Avro_UK:
Hi all,

Who would you cast as actors? The RAF at that time was a mix of so many countries.

The RAF in WW2 was more 'mixed' perhaps than any other Air Force in WW2? And no segragation either.


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

We've got loads of polish immigrants over here in the UK - perhaps we could grab a few of them? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hehe, they could repair damaged A/C in the air and undercut the 'erks'........

TimTam27
11-30-2008, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by Warrington_Wolf:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GBrutus:
Are the cast going to be 8/10ths scale too? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif They sure are, I've heard that Tom Cruise has already been approached to play Guy Gibson http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought that was a really funny post.
Then I looked up how tall Tom Cruise is.

Exactly the same height as me.

Now I am offended.

Bo_Nidle
12-02-2008, 04:48 PM
I would not dismiss Stephen Fry so easily. He's far from stupid. Given the choice of him and some Hollywood hack I know where my money would go.If nothing else the script would be intelligent, literary and even witty when required.If anyone is the quintessential Englishman it's Fry.

With Jackson overseeing it, even if he isn't directing, it's going to have top notch production values, and this is a film he wanted to remake for quite some time.

As for the role of Gibson there should be one rule: A British actor should play him. (There are plenty of other roles in the film for Americans, Australians etc.)The trouble is....who? A relative unknown perhaps. Possibly drawn from the cast of some of the UK's soap operas? (Before you go pale at the thought, remember actors such as Russell Crowe and Guy Pearce both started out in soaps).

I believe Gibson was only 25 years old at the time of the raid so no old gits (Mel, Tom, this means you!) Christian Bale? (Although even he's 34 now!)

It should be a young cast as I think most people don't realise just how young these men were. I always think that they look older in the photos of the day, but then I suppose war will age you.

And even if they do go all PC cowardly on the dogs name/codeword, it shouldn't be a reason not to make this film.

As long as it's not another "Pearl Harbor", "U571", or "Thin Red Line", I'll be happy.

Aaron_GT
12-02-2008, 05:28 PM
As long as it's not another "Pearl Harbor", "U571", or "Thin Red Line", I'll be happy.

The Thin Red Line was at least an intelligent film (unlike the first two) and I felt it was drawing somewhat from A Walk In The Sun (1944?) as well as the novel on which it was based.

Aaron_GT
12-02-2008, 05:36 PM
Possibly drawn from the cast of some of the UK's soap operas?

It would also need to be someone capable of projecting the full depth of Gibson. The old films, good though they were, focused on stiff upper lip, effective leader, cares about wife/dog/etc but were a bit two dimensional. That was, to some extent, the acting style of the time before The Method was established or verite was in vogue. I hope we get all three dimensions this time round, though. Sometimes the soaps deliver on this, but sometimes it feels like they are a sausage machine of tragedy acting and parody themselves!

tomtheyak
12-02-2008, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by KRISTORF:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jex_TE:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MB_Avro_UK:
Hi all,

Who would you cast as actors? The RAF at that time was a mix of so many countries.

The RAF in WW2 was more 'mixed' perhaps than any other Air Force in WW2? And no segragation either.


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

We've got loads of polish immigrants over here in the UK - perhaps we could grab a few of them? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hehe, they could repair damaged A/C in the air and undercut the 'erks'........ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, yes! and then when the undercutting is all done we could send them home and turn our backs as their land is annexed and the very freedom they fought with us for is negated,

Careful with the comparisons lads.

WTE_Galway
12-02-2008, 07:09 PM
8/10 scale huh

I suppose that would mean 0.2424 calibre guns and 400 rather than 500 lb bombs.

omega_max
12-03-2008, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
8/10 scale huh

I suppose that would mean 0.2424 calibre guns and 400 rather than 500 lb bombs.

Just to bring a bit of chart monkeying into this thread I must say that this is completely wrong. Since the mass is proportional to volume of the bomb and the volume is proportional to the cube of the length unit it is obvious that the bombs will weigh 500*0.8*0.8*0.8 = 256 lb. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Oh, maybe bring in Val Kilmer as Barnes Wallis together with TC to do a 20+ years later follow up of the epic homo-erotic shower scene.

Ok, I will run for cover now... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

WTE_Galway
12-03-2008, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by omega_max:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
8/10 scale huh

I suppose that would mean 0.2424 calibre guns and 400 rather than 500 lb bombs.

Just to bring a bit of chart monkeying into this thread I must say that this is completely wrong. Since the mass is proportional to volume of the bomb and the volume is proportional to the cube of the length unit it is obvious that the bombs will weigh 500*0.8*0.8*0.8 = 256 lb. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Excellent point

Vacillator
12-03-2008, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by omega_max:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
8/10 scale huh

I suppose that would mean 0.2424 calibre guns and 400 rather than 500 lb bombs.

Just to bring a bit of chart monkeying into this thread I must say that this is completely wrong. Since the mass is proportional to volume of the bomb and the volume is proportional to the cube of the length unit it is obvious that the bombs will weigh 500*0.8*0.8*0.8 = 256 lb.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The force of mathematics is strong with you young Skywalker http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MB_Avro_UK
12-03-2008, 04:32 PM
Hi all,

Excuse my ignorance...but why 80% and not 100%?

Jackson has enough money to make a 100% Lancaster so why 80%?

Ah...now I understand! Tom Cruise will look 6 feet tall http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Choctaw111
12-04-2008, 07:51 AM
8/10 scale...wow.
How many are they going to make, and at what cost for each?
Sinking that much into a movie like this, the acting had better be on par with the "props".

spacehippy1975
12-04-2008, 09:07 AM
Hi, just looked on IMDB for info on this film & found this http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1244356/ I know it's refering to a Documentary called "Revealed" Last of the Dambusters.

It looks like Stephen Fry has an interest in The Dam Busters?

Regards,

Keith.

Aaron_GT
12-04-2008, 11:03 AM
Directed by Cy Chadwick - any relation to Roy, I wonder?

MB_Avro_UK
12-04-2008, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
Directed by Cy Chadwick - any relation to Roy, I wonder?

Cy Chadwick is Cynthia Chadwick. She was Roy's wife and to this day has been involved in the Movie industry.

Her first 'break' was in Pulp Fiction and prior to that 'Das Boot'. Who can forget her rendition as a Diesel engine in Das Boot?

She is a controversial yet well loved figure within the movie industry.

She and her husband Roy did not see eye-to-eye over the development of the Lancaster. Roy preferred the twin-engined Manchester but Cynthia insisted upon the 4 engined variant that became the Lancaster.

In recognition of his wife's foresight, Roy arranged for her to do 107 missions in a Lancaster between 1943/44.

I do hope this helps.


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Hatter_RAF
12-04-2008, 12:45 PM
Where are the Lancs being built? I wonder where they will film the aerial scenes?

Fry could do a good Barnes Wallis, I think.

JG52Uther
12-04-2008, 12:56 PM
Is the money even there to make a film like this these days? WE might love it,although we would be picky about the little details,but surely it would be a niche film,and therefore a bit of a gamble by the studio's.

MB_Avro_UK
12-04-2008, 02:50 PM
Hi all,

An extract from the original film. It has a certain 'dignity' if that's the right word.

Would that be repeated?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VD9sd8s9V14&feature=related


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Aaron_GT
12-04-2008, 04:25 PM
Fry could do a good Barnes Wallis, I think.

AFAIK Wallis was quite focused and driven but Fry doesn't give off that aura. His friend Kenneth Brannagh might be able to pull it off and looks a little bit more like Wallis.

Hatter_RAF
12-04-2008, 06:45 PM
I've decided on Michael Kitchen from Foyle's War.

Buzzsaw-
12-04-2008, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Bo_Nidle:
...most people don't realise just how young these men were.

I'm honoured to be the friend of a WWII Fighter pilot who shot down some 22 enemy aircraft.

He was 18 when he was accepted for pilot training, 19 when he got his first kill in the Desert. By the end of the war, he was 23, in command of a Wing of Spitfires, four Squadrons.

No substitute for the courage, reflexes and eyesight of the young. The maturity comes fast when you see your buddies die.

WTE_Galway
12-04-2008, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Buzzsaw-:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bo_Nidle:
...most people don't realise just how young these men were.

I'm honoured to be the friend of a WWII Fighter pilot who shot down some 22 enemy aircraft.

He was 18 when he was accepted for pilot training, 19 when he got his first kill in the Desert. By the end of the war, he was 23, in command of a Wing of Spitfires, four Squadrons.

No substitute for the courage, reflexes and eyesight of the young. The maturity comes fast when you see your buddies die. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let's not forget the RAF Brats. In recent years the term has been appropriated to mean children of servicemen.

However at the time of WWII it had a specific meaning. A boy or girl who enlisted in the RAF as an apprentice fitter or armorer at the age of 15 and a half.