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TheGozr
01-31-2005, 02:22 PM
You can add your name to fight for one of those Server.

War-Clouds list:

1] Yum-Yum
2]
3]
4] VFS-22-Swiss
5] =AFJ=Mantis
6] WOLFMondo
7] diablo310
8] MOH_MADMAN
9] x__CRASH__x
10] Nominal
11] willyvic
12] Aimail101
13]
14]
15]


more pilots for WC

Gennadich G1 list:

1] =FB=VikS
2] =FB=Kgach
3] =FB=Storm
4] =FB=LOFT
5] =FB=TL
6] =FB=Kuzmich
7] =fb=mich
8] =fb=Chapay
9] =fb=ArCHMaGE
10] =fb=Fox
11] =fb=VGV
12] =fb=LuckyBoy
13] =fb=Rackshas
14] =fb=kurk
15] 228Shad_Romeo

TheGozr
01-31-2005, 02:22 PM
You can add your name to fight for one of those Server.

War-Clouds list:

1] Yum-Yum
2]
3]
4] VFS-22-Swiss
5] =AFJ=Mantis
6] WOLFMondo
7] diablo310
8] MOH_MADMAN
9] x__CRASH__x
10] Nominal
11] willyvic
12] Aimail101
13]
14]
15]


more pilots for WC

Gennadich G1 list:

1] =FB=VikS
2] =FB=Kgach
3] =FB=Storm
4] =FB=LOFT
5] =FB=TL
6] =FB=Kuzmich
7] =fb=mich
8] =fb=Chapay
9] =fb=ArCHMaGE
10] =fb=Fox
11] =fb=VGV
12] =fb=LuckyBoy
13] =fb=Rackshas
14] =fb=kurk
15] 228Shad_Romeo

crazyivan1970
01-31-2005, 02:46 PM
Someone is going to get hurt http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

AFJMantis
01-31-2005, 02:57 PM
Sign me up for WC.

TheGozr
01-31-2005, 02:57 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ready to place a bet? a poll? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

notgoodknight
01-31-2005, 03:07 PM
no fair 15 vs 5

TheGozr
01-31-2005, 03:08 PM
Goodknight don't forget to reccord it... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Diablo310th
01-31-2005, 03:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheGozr:
You can add your name to fight for one of those Server.

_War-Clouds list:_

1] Yum-Yum
2] Goodknight
3] Megile
4] VFS-22-Swiss
5] AFJMantis
6] 310thDiablo

more pilots for WC

_Gennadich G1 list:_

1] =FB=VikS
2] =FB=Kgach
3] =FB=Storm
4] =FB=LOFT
5] =FB=TL
6] =FB=Kuzmich
7] =fb=mich
8] =fb=Chapay
9] =fb=ArCHMaGE
10] =fb=Fox
11] =fb=VGV
12] =fb=LuckyBoy
13] =fb=Rackshas
14] =fb=kurk
15] 228Shad_Romeo <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

BlackShrike
01-31-2005, 04:11 PM
checking war clouds stats you should get some more AFJs and JV44s on W.C. team

LeadSpitter_
01-31-2005, 04:19 PM
who is going to be hosting? The reason I dont fly grennadich anymore is I get terrible lag and warp becuase I ping 160 to that server. I ping 60 to warclouds and is very smooth.

So what ever side hosts should have a huge advantage most =fb= ping 20 to grennadich or lower.

TheGozr
01-31-2005, 04:24 PM
LeadSpitter_ where are you located. ?

WOLFMondo
01-31-2005, 04:32 PM
GOZR, I'd fly for WC but what time and date is this happening?

TheGozr
01-31-2005, 07:27 PM
Viks will give me a date real soon..

I think some will have some serious wake up call. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif for shure.

AFJMantis
02-01-2005, 12:12 AM
Its kind of stupid really a bunch of random mercs from a bunch of different squads who mostly have never even been on coms together, flying against a whole squad unit that have good cohesion and team tactics aswell as individual skills.But hey if its good for thier ego then so be it.Warclouds server squad will loose but what will it prove.

FatBoyHK
02-01-2005, 12:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
who is going to be hosting? The reason I dont fly grennadich anymore is I get terrible lag and warp becuase I ping 160 to that server. I ping 60 to warclouds and is very smooth.

So what ever side hosts should have a huge advantage most =fb= ping 20 to grennadich or lower. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

oh no, my ping to WC is about 300..... no wonder I am that noob......

WOLFMondo
02-01-2005, 12:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AFJMantis:
Its kind of stupid really a bunch of random mercs from a bunch of different squads who mostly have never even been on coms together, flying against a whole squad unit that have good cohesion and team tactics aswell as individual skills.But hey if its good for thier ego then so be it.Warclouds server squad will loose but what will it prove. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

We've all been on TS together :P

Theres no reason why we cannot all join comms together at some point. If you want private forum space to organise and discuss I can provide that. If you want a TS server to discuss or practice on I can also provide that. If you want a practice server....http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.


TheGozr, you forgot to add diablo.

AFJMantis
02-01-2005, 01:51 AM
Please strike Blackshrike, from the list we do not have any members by that name.

http://www.fighterjocks.net/roster.htm

Hey Gozr could you list me as =AFJ=Mantis please

TheGozr
02-01-2005, 02:48 AM
The 10 servers are all in the same position .
This is a first and it's hard but a blast.
It bring the spirit of camaraderie and Competition to a great level. many of you are use to the comms and others will discover it.

WOLFMondo yes geat move.

The map is running on "SERVERS_WARS" server in HL and ASE or it can be downloaded at the site as well Over here (http://www.french.themotorhead.com/il2/viewforum.php?f=19)

This is parallel with the International Online Competition of many warclouds pilots participated in the past.
Ready to have some adrenaline rushes? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Be shure that when the Russians are playing the world is watching.

TheGozr
02-01-2005, 02:51 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=6631014072

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=3851014072

willyvic
02-01-2005, 06:33 AM
Throw me on the WC list.

Thanks,
WV

PM sent also.

WOLFMondo
02-01-2005, 09:24 AM
Unless Sparx can or wants to, do the WC guys want private forum space and access to a TS server and practice DF server? I can arrange this all when ever but sooner is better than later.

x__CRASH__x
02-01-2005, 11:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AFJMantis:
Please strike Blackshrike, from the list we do not have any members by that name. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
LMFAO! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


I hate signing up for something I know nothing about as far as time or date. Throw me on the list for War Clouds I guess. They need the numbers. But no guarentee I'll show up since I don't know when.

MOH_MADMAN
02-01-2005, 12:01 PM
throw my hat in the ring for WC. Im w Crasher, need to know the time date thing for a for sure i can make it deal.
MAD

TheGozr
02-01-2005, 12:06 PM
I'm waiting now for Viks to give me a date. Since G1 pilots are available on weekends evening over north Europe it will probably be one of the Sat or Sunday ~mid day .

VO1-VC
02-01-2005, 12:21 PM
Throw my name on the WC list as well. Time may be an issue - hopefully, not.

Nominal (Hyperlobby)

LeadSpitter_
02-01-2005, 01:23 PM
TheGozr im located in NJ, I will talk to sparx and see if he would like me to fly with them.

vikks and storm are a fun deadly match, they are definalty much more advanced in team play and tactics then the wc crowd which just say extend or turn left or right it will be interesting. I wonder if jimmygiro will be flying with =FB= hes always in that server or f16

Some of the afj and jv44 know all their tactics by name and how to perform them.

VFS-22_SPaRX
02-01-2005, 02:35 PM
You guys are more then welcome to use the Warclouds teamspeak for anything you guys need. I can make a channel for you guys to use. If you want a server to practice on, this can be arranged as well. Just let me know what you all might need and we can see what i can work out.

You guys can handle this event. I am not running the show on this one. Maybe one of you guys should take a leadership role on this one to get it orgnaized. My plate is too full right now to take one anything else. I would love to fly, but I need to see the time/date before i can commit.

VikS
02-02-2005, 07:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheGozr:
I'm waiting now for Viks to give me a date. Since G1 pilots are available on weekends evening over north Europe it will probably be one of the Sat or Sunday ~mid day . <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ive already did it in my pm to ya at GT forum, but if you didnt get it heres it agan:
lets say - 5th feb (sat) at around 19-20 GMT

WOLFMondo
02-02-2005, 09:21 AM
Thats this weekend, doesn't even give the WC guys a chance to practice together.

TheGozr
02-02-2005, 10:48 AM
Yes it is a bit too close.. Viks i anderstand the desire to fight.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

12 or 19 february.. ?

what do you think?

TheGozr
02-02-2005, 01:06 PM
WOLFMondo try SERVER_WARS in Hypper lobby it's there and running it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Airmail109
02-02-2005, 03:07 PM
SIGN ME UP...........SIGN ME UP!!!!!!!!!!! (Jumping up and down with glee)..........PLEASE http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BlackShrike
02-02-2005, 11:52 PM
hmm.........i didnt know i had signed up for this?

i thought everyone knew who AFJ BlackShrike is....

quack

VikS
02-04-2005, 05:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheGozr:
Yes it is a bit too close.. Viks i anderstand the desire to fight.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

12 or 19 february.. ?

what do you think? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

12th is ok

Vipez-
02-04-2005, 06:41 PM
Poor War-Clouds people.. =FB= will butcher you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (If not, then Viks will alone do so http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

i'm interested to see the result ..

TheGozr
02-08-2005, 01:22 AM
http://www.gennadich.com/forum/templates/Athena/images/up1l.jpg


VS


http://www.war-clouds.net/img/banner800.JPG
Viks asked..
FEB 12 ? last chance for date... WC team?

WOLFMondo
02-08-2005, 04:37 AM
Theres been no real cohesive attempt by any of the WC guys so just put up the dates you want and see who can attend.

Personally I'd prefer the 19th.

VO1-VC
02-08-2005, 04:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
Theres been no real cohesive attempt by any of the WC guys so just put up the dates you want and see who can attend.

Personally I'd prefer the 19th. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agree, put the date up and lets do it. It will be interesting to see what happens the first time out.

TempoR
02-09-2005, 06:09 AM
I won't be available on 19th, so it will be great pleasure to kick your *** on 12th http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

=FB=Storm

Nominal.
02-09-2005, 10:10 AM
I am good to go on the 12th

TheGozr
02-09-2005, 11:43 AM
Here the map of the battle, and it's still playing 24/7 in SERVERS_WARS server in Hyperlobby.

http://www.french.themotorhead.com/il2/images/promapG.jpg

Negatiating for the 19 feb.

TheGozr
02-10-2005, 03:56 AM
19 th Feb will be the fight, Viks will give a time and it should be 19:00h or 20:00h GMT time.

1.JaVA_Razer
02-10-2005, 04:27 AM
Warclouds is gonna get slapped around the room.

We flew againt Flying Barans with Java squad on the Low Land Tiger Meet... There good http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

So because we lost against them I'm rooting for Warclouds to spank'm. but I doubt it'll happen...

BTW Be sure to set up TS !!!

VikS
02-10-2005, 11:07 AM
One thing here, due to some force-major things we willnt be able to fight at 19th
So we need to switch dates to closer one (i mean 12th) or to 26th feb?

VFS-22_Swiss
02-10-2005, 12:47 PM
Only one rules change I would STRONGLY suggest............make it a ONE death kick. Hey....its much more appealing.

Swiss

notgoodknight
02-10-2005, 01:06 PM
scratch me from w/c list. Ill fly for zeke vs wildcat server.

"Zeke vs wildcat server is new best" -Oleg

TheGozr
02-10-2005, 01:18 PM
"Zeke vs Wildcat" is not on list.
If Zeke vs Wildcat is indeed part of BirdsofPrey server , so you should be on BirdsofPrey. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.
Didn't get any news back from BOP yet. and it may be disqualified.



Arabica coffee is best new -Oleg http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

gates123
02-10-2005, 03:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VFS-22_Swiss:
Only one rules change I would STRONGLY suggest............make it a ONE death kick. Hey....its much more appealing.

Swiss <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Its a two deathkick tourney, since ground objectives can bring victory to a team who takes them all out first its perfect the way it is. I cant see how changing that to one is going to attract more people then it already has. Plus WC plays G1 first round (thats IF they can get at least 10) so they'll need all the lives they can spare http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

HayateAce
02-10-2005, 04:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by notgoodknight:
scratch me from w/c list. Ill fly for zeke vs wildcat server.

"GoodKn1ght is new best" -Oleg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

WarClowns fate is sealed, TEH Ace has left the building.

http://capmarine.com/cap/graphics/Ace-1.jpg

MEGILE
02-10-2005, 04:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by notgoodknight:
scratch me from w/c list.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ditto, Scratch me from the WC list, I'm no longer a WC fanboy.

LeadSpitter_
02-11-2005, 12:29 AM
Hey vikks megile goodknight and I would like to fly with =fb= http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

wc is now like watching reruns of the goldengirls Zzzzzzzzzz

Fehler
02-11-2005, 01:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
Hey vikks megile goodknight and I would like to fly with =fb= http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

wc is now like watching reruns of the goldengirls Zzzzzzzzzz <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey you guys that are disrespecting Warclouds and SPaRX: I went looking for the servers you guys are hosting to see how Warclouds should "Do it."

But I didnt find any.

Gee, go figure.

You can dish out criticism and complaints, but dont have anything healthy to bring to the table.

SPaRX is a great guy, and tries hard to provide for the community, and (If you recall) was about the ONLY person that had a server up and running when there was no dedicated server patch. Do you know what this actually meant for him? That meant that anytime the server went down or was memory overloaded, he had to get someone to physically reboot it. He lives in the North East, and the server is located in Texas. More than likely, he had to pay someone for their efforts. All this to provide entertainment for you guys to come and fly (For free I might add) Now he is repaid with your bull$hit rhetoric.

The 1 deathkick was implimented to try and force the mindless vulchers away from the server and make players fly in a team/goal oriented fashion. Let's look at this logically... You guys dont like the rules. Perhaps you cant fly as a team member with goals. Guess how long you "Ace in your own minds" would have lasted in real life? This also gives one a great idea of how you behave in your real lives now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

If you dont like Warcloud's current settings, then keep it to yourself. At best, cry about it to SPaRX directly. Go fly where you like flying, but dont stomp up and down like the little babies you truly are to try and sway others from trying the server. It is childish, obnoxious, and classless.

When my children acted this way (Around the age of 4-5) I would beat them. They have grown up to respect others now. You guys didnt get many spankings did you?

Osirisx9
02-11-2005, 03:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheGozr:
"Zeke vs Wildcat" is not on list.
If Zeke vs Wildcat is indeed part of BirdsofPrey server , so you should be on BirdsofPrey. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.
Didn't get any news back from BOP yet. and it may be disqualified.



Arabica coffee is best new -Oleg http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

S~ Gozr. We have been very busy working on the Warbirds of Prey server group. What is the procedure to have pilots fly for Warbirds of Prey durring the matches and when and where are the matches??

RAF238thOsiris
www.warbirdsofprey.org (http://www.warbirdsofprey.org)

Nominal.
02-11-2005, 07:51 AM
I re-registered on the forum as "Nominal." (note the period) to sync up with my username on Hyperlobby, WarClouds, etc.

Can you edit my name on the WarClouds roster(entry # 10 - old forum name was VO1-VC), and change it to Nominal.

Airmail109
02-11-2005, 07:56 AM
Im registered as Aimail101 for the showdown but my name on HL is Airmail.....does that matter? when does the show start?

TgD Thunderbolt56
02-11-2005, 08:18 AM
Heck, I'll fly for WC if they're shorthanded. Lemme know if you need a half-blind, old, hair-lip alcoholic that shakes so bad he doesn't need FFB.


TB

TheGozr
02-11-2005, 11:25 AM
Osiris.
Here to add your roster of the team (http://www.french.themotorhead.com/il2/viewtopic.php?t=169)
You need 15 pilots, Good to hear from you guys.
For the date make an offer.

VFS-22_SPaRX
02-11-2005, 07:44 PM
Gozr,

Did i read right in Viks forums they wish to do this on Feb 26th? That is the date that we would prefer.

I guess i am gonna take the lead on this thing. Dont really have the time to do it, but after seeing all these people comments, its time that we prove how well we can fly. I will get you an updated list of players by next weekend.

To all those that think we cannot hold our own, i dare you to join the WarClouds server and see just how long you can stand up to a 1 deathkick. Warclouds separates the average pilots from the good pilots. So if you think you are so good, join up on the server and prove it. I think you will be suprised how long you last on the server. I forsee alot of 5 min breaks for some of you.

S~

SPaRX

TheGozr
02-11-2005, 07:56 PM
Sparx Yes got comfirmation , 26 feb is the date for shure now. I'm waiting for teh exact time 19:00h or 20:00h GMT http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

JV44Bubi-15
02-11-2005, 08:02 PM
As always Fehler...well said!

How quickly the snot nosed crowd forgets who provides one of their better sandboxes. Funny...I have not seen this type of behavior since my CounterStrike days. Little boys with keyboard muscles running at the mouth.

Healthy trash talk is one thing but disrespect, just cause the guy can't throttle you for it, is lame and plain wrong.

Hang your heads in shame...especially Leadspitter and little Mantis. You both have enjoyed Sparx's hospitality and no doubt contributed not one penny to the server, as many of us have. Now you talk trach about the place. Two punks for sure.

Lubcke
02-11-2005, 09:58 PM
well Sparx probably you do a lot to keep this server up, for me its too laggy.
And against FB team you dont have any chancehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LeadSpitter_
02-12-2005, 01:58 AM
no disrepect to sparx, Im just sad to see one of my favorite servers loose its popularity is all.

wc was many peoples favorite server for so long especially when gg went down for many months.

Warclouds use to be always somewhat full 30 players+ or more all hours of the day and night anyday of the week and was always the place to fly with the most action.

There is about 10 regulars who fly daily having over 100 hours of play time, this does not mean they are most skilled becuase they have most kills but have most flighttime.

still many of the others who use to fly in wc simply have moved onto different servers. It does not mean they are any less skilled, many of them just want a full server with good combat, escorting bombers and attacking heavily defended targets.

Just look at my stats which i only flew wc with dk for 2 days and had enough.

http://www.stats.war-clouds.com/wf/playerdetails.php?id=214

Enemy Defeats:
Callsign Times
335th_GRPlaton. 1
Stacko 1 Only person to shoot me down in the air.
Fred_77 1
Kubanskiloewe 1
JG7_Sith 1

the rest were all vulch deaths as soon as spawning into the game a couple times as soon as joining wc.

Im just sad to see one of my favorite servers for so long not being full anymore all hours of the day and night.

Im sure many of the other wc people who flew daily and dont fly in wc anymore feel the same way.

VFS-22_SPaRX
02-12-2005, 08:31 AM
Well i hate to tell you that you are wrong as to why the server has lost some of the players. This happened when we tightened up the lag settings and this was done a month prior to the deathkick change. There are alot of players that used to frequent the server that cannot play there now because they lag too much. Is this a bad thing. No it is not. Its unfortunate, but its better for the server and everyone that plays there. We cannot have a server that everyone can play on. It just will not happen.

Did we lose some players because of the deathkick? Yes we did. Is it a big deal? No. The players we lost are those that fly IL2 as a game and not a sim. They only care about how many kills they can get in a short period of time. They do not strive to stay alive. Fly their planes in very unrealistic manner. I would rather have a server with 25 players on it flying realistically, then have a server with 40 players on it with 20 players airquaking. Do i think this has hurt the server? Not one bit. To me and the hundreds of players that play there on a regular basis, the server is a 100x times better. If you do not like the current settings, then you always have the option of flying another server. Some of them have done just that.

The facts are obvious. To fly in a 1 deathkick situation, you have to be a better skilled pilot. Not just in flying the plane of your choice, but also in the tactics you use. Being careless results in your death and waiting 5 mins to get back in. If you do not know how to fly your plane correctly and crash alot, then you will again die and have to wait 5 mins to get back in.

Teamplay is now a vital thing as well. Leadspitter, you are complaining that your deaths were from vulch deaths. My question to you is, "did you ask your team if the base you were going to take off from was clear of enemies"? My guess is probably not. So my comment to you on this is, you deserved to be vulched. If the other team is over run that base, wth are you doing trying to take off from it. There are other bases to take off from. Oh, but wait, they are too far away and require you to have to fly for a few mins to hit the frontlines. If you come onto the server as a lonewolf, you are going to die quickly. If you come into the server and play with your team, then you will not have any problems.

Its like this, the one deathkick is going to stay. If you do not like it, then you can find somewhere else to fly. Or, instead of whining about it, maybe try and up your skill level and play on the server. The choice is yours.

VFS-22_SPaRX
02-15-2005, 04:25 PM
Anyone that wishes to represent WarClouds in the Server War, please check the news section at the website and follow the instructions there. I would like everyone to do this so i can get this organized as soon as possible. Website link is in my sig.

S~

Nominal.
02-17-2005, 10:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VFS-22_SPaRX:
Anyone that wishes to represent WarClouds in the Server War, please check the news section at the website and follow the instructions there. I would like everyone to do this so i can get this organized as soon as possible. Website link is in my sig.

S~ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


The following player list was copied from the front page of this discussion.

Make sure you take the time to vist the WarClouds site , www.war-clouds.com (http://www.war-clouds.com)
and follow the instructions (see NEWS) to enter your name on the list.

War-Clouds list:

1] Yum-Yum
2]
3]
4] VFS-22-Swiss
5] =AFJ=Mantis
6] WOLFMondo
7] diablo310
8] MOH_MADMAN
9] x__CRASH__x
10] Nominal
11] willyvic
12] Aimail101
13]
14]
15]

karost
02-17-2005, 12:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VFS-22_SPaRX:
I would rather have a server with 25 players on it flying realistically, then have a server with 40 players on it with 20 players airquaking.
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S~ Hi,

I did not join in WC for along time coz I don't like E-icon show http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, after I read VFS-22_SPaRX 's post about "1 deathkick situation" ... that make me interesting much..

WC has "1 deathkick" setup now ?
how many people like "1 deathkick" setup ?

I like it very much but it's very hard to find DF Server with "1 deathkick" setup .....

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Regards
Karost

Hydra444
02-17-2005, 01:27 PM
You can "church" it up all ya want Sparx,the days of WC being the best thing since slice bread are gone.It used to be that people would actually try to meet objectives and what not.Now they just hover around their bases in a sorry attempt to avoid being killed.WC is now just as much an "air-quake" server as any other on HL.Maybe instead of trying to force people to fly a certain way (which you have failed to do,miserably I might add),you should focus on trying to make it as enjoyable an experience for EVERYONE.

HayateAce
02-17-2005, 01:38 PM
Sounds like a place for conflict-avoiding, boredom recon flights. But don't rag on sparks, it's his server and he can do any darn thing he wants. Besides, most of you guys aren't paying for squat.

Instead, come over to GreaterGreen and Birds Of Prey servers. Lots of fun going on there.

MOH_MADMAN
02-17-2005, 02:05 PM
i lag fair bit, my comps prob not servers in wc, but it is still one the best out there. dk 1 is not a prob. when i get into trouble head home, if cant land ailing craft bail from it and stay alive. simple. even behind enemy lines good chance i escape to fly again. it is hard im sure to design a mission to promote perfect battles. think that having obj located in one area helps the battle, whether folks mud move or df. a medium number of big hard tagets encourages mud moving, and the defensive battles that evolve there, maybe that is a good way to design, not sure never made a mission myself. but Sparx keeps a great server going, w n ew tests coming up frequently, and a good variety. Hats off

as for the server comp, lookin like its legs are lil short, hope it happens tho still
MAD

VFS-22_SPaRX
02-17-2005, 02:54 PM
First off, I am not forcing anyone to fly the server with the current settings. Its your choice to fly it or not. Not like Warclouds is the only server on the net.

"you should focus on trying to make it as enjoyable an experience for EVERYONE."

What UTOPIAN society do you live in? There is no way you can ever please EVERYONE.

"It used to be that people would actually try to meet objectives and what not.Now they just hover around their bases in a sorry attempt to avoid being killed"

Might i refer you to this stats page:
http://stats.war-clouds.com/wf/search.php?sort=8&name=

That sure is a lot of ground targets destroyed when no one is trying to complete objectives.

Next i would ask you to look through the mission stats which can be found here.
http://stats.war-clouds.com/wf/missions.php

If you take the time to look through the stats for the missions, you will see there are numerous were won because a team completed their objectives.

"Sounds like a place for conflict-avoiding, boredom recon flights"

Its only like that if you choose to fly in that manner. Almost all of the players on the server are there to get kills, not go on site seeing flights.

The deathkick change came for a couple of reasons.
1. People were avoiding the death kick. They would get killed twice, disconnect to reset their death, and then rejoin. With only one death, you are out. Yes we still have people that disconnect before they are shot down, but that will be taken care of shortly.

2. Seen too many players flying planes in a manner that typically got them killed. They would do this for 2 deaths, then either disconnect/reconnect to avoid the 3rd death or they would start flying to survive.
Numerous times i would see people jerking the stick around to get the kill. They would get the kill, stall out and crash. Not a very deserving kill IMHO. Now if you want to fly like that, you'll get the kill, but you will have to wait 5 minutes to try it again.


You guys statements are in now way even close to what is happening in the server. But this is all a matter of opinion.

The next option we are looking at is to going to a 2 deathkick. But this will not happen until Sammie codes a new feature into FBD for me that allows me to control the disconnect/reconnect problem. When he gets this completed, we will then try a 2 deathkick out.

Its like this, the 1 deathkick presents a new challenge. Either you want to accept that challenge or you do not. It is really that simple.

S~

nickdanger3
02-17-2005, 05:15 PM
Well since this thread has already been hijacked....

The thing is that WC used to have more people on it than nowadays. Whenever I get on (10:00 pm Hawaii time) there are maybe 4-8 people playing there (usually less than that). Stats be ****ed: I've seen it night after night for nearly three weeks now.

Are those half dozen flyers accomplishing missions? I'm sure.

Are they flying smart? No doubt. I know that when the 1 DK was instituted every flight was a nailbiter for me, so I was super alert and enjoyed it.

But there is absolutely no way that there are as many planes in the air at any one time as there used to be. And that was why WC instituted the DK way back when (I thought) - the place was always SO full that there had to be a way to allow people to get in. I remember many times connecting via HL and being blocked at the gate since the server was full. I would just sit and hit RETRY until I managed to get in rather than fly another server.

A lot of the people who used to visit WC simply aren't there anymore. Are they lesser skilled? Perhaps (might apply to me as well - I ain't proud). Or maybe, like me, they'd rather fly a server with 20 people than 5.

I like the regulars at WC and I've helped to keep the server running with donations. But I don't play at WC now NOT because I'm NOT up to any challenge. There's just less people to fly with and against and that's not as much fun for me.

It's kind of like going to see a big blockbuster movie on opening night. Is it a better movie than when you see it in a nearly empty theater for the Tuesday matinee? Nope same one, but the energy from the crowd is part of the fun.


**EDIT***
Now, am I being an idiot because I use Hyperlobby and the War-Clouds stats page to tell me how many people are in WC? Do I need to actually get in the game to get a real idea. If so please set me straight and I'll get back into the fray.
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Respectfuly,

NickDanger

VFS-22_SPaRX
02-17-2005, 05:26 PM
Well Nick, i understand what you are saying about not wantin to fly in a server with few players. But as you say you dont mind the deathkick but dont join, imagine how many others are doing that as well. But hey, dunno what to say about it. Honestly, the integrity of some of they players influenced this change alot. We strive for a realistic experience. As realistic as it can get playing a computer flight sim. And the actions of many player were taking that away from alot of the players on the server.

As i stated above, we will most likely go to a 2 deathkick setup if/when Sammie gets this last bit of code done. When will he do that i am not sure. Here is what you will expect when we make this change to 2 dk.

1. You will not be able to rejoin after being DK'ed with a different name. FBD now bans you by IP address.

2. You will not be able to disconnect/reconnect to clear your DK. When you disconnect from the server you will not be able to rejoin it for 5 minutes. So might as well just stick around. Get dk'ed, banned for 5 mins. Disconnect, banned for 5 mins. No difference.

Are we going to go with a 2 deathkick. More then likely yes. When i am not sure. Sammie tells me that the feature i am requesting is next on the list. But Sammie is a busy guy. We all have obligations that come before a computer sim.

Nominal.
02-22-2005, 04:51 AM
The 2 deathkick/5 minute ban is now in effect on War Clouds.

Make sure you sign up for the WarClouds team - the game is supposed to go ahead this weekend.

JG7_SITH
02-22-2005, 11:56 AM
Wow I'm really late on this thread .
Don't be so quick to put down WC . JV44 & =AFJ= are just a few that have remarkable team work . Even some of the admin mix it up pretty good .

However I would pay money to see GK & Viks square off.

Go WC !
S!

VFS-22_SPaRX
02-22-2005, 03:11 PM
Last Call!

If you want to fly on the WarClouds team, email me with the info requested at our website. Link in sig.