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martian04
10-21-2005, 08:45 AM
I installed pacific fighters and all the patches this is mated with Forgotten battles.
Now my joystick acts very strangely hard to describe but imagine trying to take of an a jellow runway.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif the stick is all over the place and has lost its stability this is during flight as well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
Anyone had and cured this
Thanks all!

Ritter_Cuda
10-21-2005, 08:59 AM
check your hardwere input vaules. they reset on me from 3.04 to 4.01
Cuda

Lord_Rhah
10-21-2005, 09:02 AM
have you just patched to 4.02? if so, try increasing the filtering settings on the yaw and pitch axis in the joystick settings section, which is in the hardware section from the main game start up screen. It really helped me get things stable again.

if that dont work, perhaps your stick is knackered?

LEBillfish
10-21-2005, 10:27 AM
It's a problem many have been encountering with the patch.......Here is what I did to resolve it;

The problem once more was a constant minor in distance yet violent twitching of the plane in all axis....Imagine our rough turbulence yet constantly UNLESS you were on the verge of a stall/hard climb/hard turn.....Essentially generating excessive drag. When trimmed and up to speed flying level or diving......The plane jerked all over.

Can't say what step helped but something did considerably. Here are the steps I took (and mind you I discovered my 4.01 files had not copied to the CD well, couldn't even access it).

1. Ran norton WinDoctor & checked for any corrupt files/links/registry whatever...Found a few that linked to 4.02 yet were mostly Ubi based connections.

2. Ran various antivirus and spyware checks...nothing.

3. Renamed my config.ini, user files and directories, settings, etc.. Anything that we can change via inputs. Then after step 5 let IL2 rebuild them.

4. Checked Video & sound cards & their settings.

5. Deleted stick profiles.

6. restarted IL2 and let it rebuild. Reset new files to my settings which took using "Setup.exe" as well.

7. Made a new pilot.

8. flew QMB briefly just to run it not to check

9. Adjusted stick to maximum filter, flew briefly again....reset filters to 0.

10. "Copy & pasted old config and other file info into new files (simply erased contents of new and replaced it with old text).

11. Flew QMB after adjusting filter to max..

12. changed filter back to 0.


Result.......The violent jerking stopped. What is left is what I assume to be the sim and new FM. What I'm wondering is at this point seeing the difference and how the new FM is, is if it might not be in some way related to the radically changed "centering" of the plane when you release the stick. It's a much more violent movement then before. So perhaps something between my stick and that aspect of the FM were trying to accommodate each other.

Not a programmer so have no idea. Yet it would have been as though the stick sent a input/signal, and the sim tried to snap you back to center....Yet since you were still adding input, it would jerk back and forth in all axis.

One thing I noticed is speed dramatically improved.....ex. with problem plane would fly 390km/h max., same settings trim and so on, 430+ was easily obtained. What that tells me is that the control surfaces were actually moving creating drag....Just twitching mind you yet that enough to slow you down.

x6BL_Brando
10-21-2005, 01:43 PM
Yes there is some kind of change that I just noticed....though I couldn't necessarily tie it down to 4.02 as I don't often do the action that shows it up.

I started a V V S pilot career, flying IL2-3s. Hopped in, took off, climbed to 5,000 feet and set trims to obtain level flight - three-quarter throttle and 85% prop-pitch - and settled down for a 50 Km flight to the target. The only thing to do was keep both eyes open for enemy interceptors. I decided to switch into the gunner's seat and scan our rear quadrant.....

Wham....no sooner am I in the seat than I (the gunner) am staring at the ground as the plane goes into a steep climb. Back in front I have to retrim to obtain level flight. Tried it several times and always the same result http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Maybe this has been around for a while - this is the first I've seen of it though. Otherwise I found no change at all in axis binding or keypresses. The flight model seems a tad different but, like a good drone, I've adapted http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

martian04
10-21-2005, 03:38 PM
Ok 1st i am going to uninstall joystick then re-install. Well pi..ed off about this getting slaughtered online http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

martian04
10-22-2005, 08:16 AM
Well i re-installed still bad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif game for me plays rubbish now.
LEBillfish what exactly do you mean by re-mame files..Just re-name them the same and how many and whats do you mean re-build them?
Can you give me an example step by step.Also i am at a loss about you step 6 how do you do this?
Sorry but if things don't improve i am dumping pacific fighters very dissapointed with this.

Kuna15
10-22-2005, 08:22 AM
I have my values for joy sensitivity on 10 20 30 40 ... etc. up to 100 for all Pitch Roll Yaw (Input settings on game screen).

You should be able to at least get decent controll of aircraft on these.

Sometimes users have 100 for all values which renders aircraft too sensitive and basically uncontrolable on many occasions.

VW-IceFire
10-22-2005, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by martian04:
Well i re-installed still bad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif game for me plays rubbish now.
LEBillfish what exactly do you mean by re-mame files..Just re-name them the same and how many and whats do you mean re-build them?
Can you give me an example step by step.Also i am at a loss about you step 6 how do you do this?
Sorry but if things don't improve i am dumping pacific fighters very dissapointed with this.
Read my thread: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/8001085963

Its a bad patch. Remove it, go to a backup of 4.01 if you can...and then download the patch from somewhere else (try Flying Legends) and install.

martian04
10-22-2005, 09:25 AM
Well i have no back up so it would be a full install i think..Havn't got the time for this at the moment shame i never found this out earlier http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif