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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 10:18 AM
What is it about this superb game that suddenly seems to have pulled in every complete moron.

Half the peolpe playing it seem to actually be reliving that war and all of it's sick arrogant prejudices through this forum.

XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 10:18 AM
What is it about this superb game that suddenly seems to have pulled in every complete moron.

Half the peolpe playing it seem to actually be reliving that war and all of it's sick arrogant prejudices through this forum.

fluke39
09-23-2003, 10:23 AM
it can get bad - but i wouldn't say it was that bad

especially not recently

can you give me any examples of these prejudices akin to those in WWII?


recently?

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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 10:23 AM
Its because theres so many sick arogant biases in the sim now & people are realy upset & it reflects here & in the online game.


People have been realy adjatated latley normaly there alot more friendly & fun but after this 1.11 arcadegame patch many people are on the edge while flying instead of having fun as it used to be...

IMO its the 1.11 patch from Hell

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fluke39
09-23-2003, 10:24 AM
--and a more correct statement would be FB Forums attract....la da da


anyhow i think your thread title is a bit strong /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 10:26 AM
I hope you mean "corpse"!

I'd never join a club that would have ME as a member!!.

XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 10:27 AM
Locust if you hate this sim so much now STOP using it!

ffs

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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 10:44 AM
I blame it on full real settings.

If more people would just play medium, the vibe would be alot better.

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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 10:55 AM
when did I say I hated this Game ?

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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 10:58 AM
I prefer medium settings too Ray but in a previous post of mine where I asked what sort of servers people liked you said...

Map=mountains or small map with some AA protecting bases
icons=range only, dark blue and dark maroon (limited to 3000km)
clouds=there
padlock: on
speedbar: on
everything else full real
planeset=axis vs. allies (various ways..sometimes get rid of uber planes)

This doesn't sound medium to me. This sounds pretty much leaning towards full real...?

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Message Edited on 09/23/0311:04AM by Scragbat

XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 11:00 AM
The Original poster asked why all the humans are upset..

I told him why & its the truth Ive been watching it since the release of 1.11 & its getting worse by the day

Here on the forums & online


57% of the people who posted in another topic said there very unhappy with the Game Now is that my fault...? NO!!!


If you hate it so much why dont you stop playing & leave now ?

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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 11:00 AM
To start a post the way you started it, OBOE `Il2 FB attracts d*ckheads like flys to a corps` does nothing to help the situation.

If you want to help, you should try to be a mediater, a peacemaker, spreading GOOD vibes... NOT angry comments like this.

Lazy_312 in the other thread, has done a better job of saying what you are trying to say...

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Message Edited on 09/23/0310:01AM by SeaFireLIV

XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 11:07 AM
The Vibes are bad man the carma is screwed up, the stars are out of alignment, the sun has shifted from its axis & the AC in fb are out balance it shifted from a sim to an Arcade Game in one fatal patch manuver 1.11.

I dont hate I just point out the problems.




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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 11:14 AM
Scragbat wrote:
- I prefer medium settings too Ray but in a previous
- post of mine where I asked what sort of servers
- people liked you said...

Missed the previous post, so piggy-backing here. I would like to see servers having just these settings, except...

- Map=mountains or small map with some AA protecting bases

Not the mountains map, it seems to be too resource-heavy for many people (me included) and climbing back to those high airfields with a Stuka is a biaaatch...

- icons=range only, dark blue and dark maroon (limited
- to 3000km)

Yes, if the blue is not too dark; it gets lost very easily to sea or dark green ground, the maroon on the other shows well against pretty much any terrain


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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 11:18 AM
SeaFireLIV wrote:
- To start a post the way you started it, OBOE `Il2 FB
- attracts d*ckheads like flys to a corps` does
- nothing to help the situation.
-
- If you want to help, you should try to be a
- mediater, a peacemaker, spreading GOOD vibes... NOT
- angry comments like this.
-
- Lazy_312 in the other thread, has done a better job
- of saying what you are trying to say...


Well said SeaFire..

S to u...
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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 11:20 AM
we should all go and live in a commune surrounded by gorgeous women /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif - that would solve things (erm, then again, probably not) - Shaaa-mone !

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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 11:24 AM
My settings are halfway in between medium and full real

Anyway my point is that too many people get stuck on the concept of full real, to the point where it clouds their better judgement.

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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 11:27 AM
People don't like 1.11, I think it's OK.
They will all cry take it back to how it was, I don't want to play anymore!
So their demands are met and Oleg brings out patch 1.12 and it's closer to the FM of 1.1b.
What about all us poor f%^*ers who have just learnt all the characteristics of the FM's for the aircraft in 1.11?

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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 11:49 AM
That would be proper BO I tell thee /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

C'mon Kes!

eeee heeee /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

ICAG_Bader wrote:
- we should all go and live in a commune surrounded by
- gorgeous women
- that would solve things (erm,
- then again, probably not) - Shaaa-mone !
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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 11:52 AM
Even Craig David wants the track playback modified...

'Can I get a rewind?!'

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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 11:58 AM
Scragbat wrote:
- What about all us poor f%^*ers who have just learnt
- all the characteristics of the FM's for the aircraft
- in 1.11?

I say you should be careful what you invest your time into. Me, I'm a stickler when it comes to performance dats (of the sim). But I have had the foresight to not even bother trying yet.

Also, the title of this thread is not very nice. It won't last long.



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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 12:21 PM
SeaFireLIV wrote:
- To start a post the way you started it, OBOE `Il2 FB
- attracts d*ckheads like flys to a corps` does
- nothing to help the situation.

Maybe he meant to say corps....as in Virtual Air Corps..../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif NOT!!

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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 02:47 PM
Ok could'nt post again until know.

Sorryhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I really am sorry about the thread title, I was depressed.

I come on here for fun and fascination, like the vast majority I imagine.

I've never been one to post a lot here, though I've been following this and most other IL2 forums from day one.

This last week I started to get the feeling it was all wrong, and I don't mean the game, I mean the personal and antagonistic nature of many posts here.

I could hardly find a thread where someone was'nt getting it in the neckhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I thought if this is what it's come too then if it was my handywork and drive that had made the game/sim IL2, I might be losing enthusiasm too.

I just started thinking, Oleg is'nt some multinational conglomerate, he's Oleg Maddox, just a bloke with a team, he might well be right about his flight models, he might be wrong, but he's not going to listen to tantrums. He might, just might even get sick of it all and do exactly what his critics have already accused him of and sell out realism officially.

I believe that's rubbish, Oleg loves aeroplanes, he would'nt have come this far otherwise.

Maybe too many here have an over inflated sense of their own impact on IL2 in the past. We all bought the CD, well most of us, and it was our choice.

Many thousands of people bought it and never come to forums to **** each other or impart usefull information, but they still paid for it.

If the one visable group of 'fans', when faced by a contravercial patch then start charging about swearing at each other, real abusive behaviour every day recently.....

I,ve never seen this on GPL forums, I never saw people mount campaigns directed at the designers,'The Lotus is too fast', 'My Brabham does'nt grip well enough', and even then they'd not swear about it and call the design teams personal integrity into questionhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Yes I do think theres an element of unpleasant nationalism coming to the fore here, even if it's by proxy, most Luftwaffe enthusiasts are probobly not actually German on this forum.

I think the AI is absurd a lot of the time, yes it favours the turn fighters, I can never seem to outrun a Chaika in an F2 but so what, I could always fly Russian, or pick a scenario I could fly and enjoy.

Or do some people want to win at all costs, no matter what.

If that's the case then this is a sport, not a sim or a game, maybe half of us are using performance enhancing drugs to make sure of successhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Maybe it's not even a sport, it's really a rematch of 41-40 and some people are in too deep.

I got carried away with the thread title, I even spelled corpse wrong, but I really was upset when I typed it, got a grip now though.







Message Edited on 09/23/0301:50PM by Oboe

Hawgdog
09-23-2003, 02:52 PM
Full EASY is whats best.
unlimited ammo
airstarts
no overheat
no stall
12:00 noon no clouds
no AAA
and P.11 and 262 only



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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 03:00 PM
The corpses look OK but the flies are overmodelled.

XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 03:07 PM
Scragbat wrote:
- People don't like 1.11, I think it's OK.
- They will all cry take it back to how it was, I
- don't want to play anymore!
- So their demands are met and Oleg brings out patch
- 1.12 and it's closer to the FM of 1.1b.
- What about all us poor f%^*ers who have just learnt
- all the characteristics of the FM's for the aircraft
- in 1.11?


Oh for crying out loud! It isn't that difficult. With most of these planes the differences between one patch and the next is not that radical.

And bugger medium settings.

XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 03:20 PM
All is forgiven, Oboe.

You know what the problem is? This and all other boards are pretty much like real life. Reminds me a lot of the place I work!

In all seriousness, the petty nastiness and hypercriticism and all the rest of it is almost inevitable when a group of human beings are brought together. It's not just here. It's almost everywhere. I'm sure old Oleg can handle it. Whenever he feels abused he can always go count all the money he's made off the folks who criticize his work!

XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 03:32 PM
I'm sure Oleg can handle it based on his posts I don't think we have to worry about him reading the board for pleasure.

XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 04:22 PM
*chuckle* !

XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 04:33 PM
Ditto.

It is disheartening to see the attitudes expressed here and online. You would think people would seek ways to get along better and be respectful.

I got flamed a couple of nights ago for an easy kill on a popular DF server. The boogie, who is a pretty good pilot and was having a very successful run, tried to get out of a dogfight over his base by dropping gear and landing; he didn't quite make it! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Vulching is specifically and expressly allowed on this server.

Right away, the dead boogie and his two teammates were jumping all over me, calling me "unskilled," "dishonorable," "gay," "woman," "noob," and my favorite, "another 14 year old American."

Some people need to get a grip. FB is a game - relax, enjoy, immerse, get into it, but please don't start calling people names.

XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 04:53 PM
well........... I think problems are the same as beauty......... they only exist in the mind of the beholder

if some love the game and others hate it.......the game is not either good nor bad, just as we are all unique, so with our different opinions and viewpoints we each see things differently through a glass shaded by what we like.

as the noisy minority will always be heard over the silent majority, it requires wisdom not to be unduly bias towards it.

what makes me laugh is the shocking spelling I see in these forums...........

If I sound like a Buddhist it is because I am one..........

Hawgdog
09-23-2003, 04:56 PM
JV44Rall wrote:
- I got flamed a couple of nights ago for an easy kill
- on a popular DF server. - Right away, the dead boogie and his two teammates
- were jumping all over me, calling me "unskilled,"
- "dishonorable," "gay," "woman," "noob," and my
- favorite, "another 14 year old American."


lol, I know that server! Whats good for them dont apply to others!

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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 05:00 PM
Hey, Oboe, I understand fully and can see where your anger`s come from. Something is wrong with the general attitude of some terribly-ill mannered and uappreciative people. I am even considering leaving the boards because I`m actually feeling a little depressed when I come here. Then I don`t feel like playing FB.

Perhaps it`s time for me to leave before I stop playing FB altogether.

(p.s. It`s NOT about 1.11- there`s a sect of people who go all out to be as obnoxious as possible, then others jump or hijack a thread to do the same).


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Message Edited on 09/23/0304:02PM by SeaFireLIV

XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 05:15 PM
JV44Rall wrote:
- Ditto.
-
- It is disheartening to see the attitudes expressed
- here and online. You would think people would seek
- ways to get along better and be respectful.
-
- I got flamed a couple of nights ago for an easy kill
- on a popular DF server. The boogie, who is a pretty
- good pilot and was having a very successful run,
- tried to get out of a dogfight over his base by
- dropping gear and landing; he didn't quite make it!
- /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Vulching is
- specifically and expressly allowed on this server.
-
- Right away, the dead boogie and his two teammates
- were jumping all over me, calling me "unskilled,"
- "dishonorable," "gay," "woman," "noob," and my
- favorite, "another 14 year old American."
-
- Some people need to get a grip. FB is a game -
- relax, enjoy, immerse, get into it, but please don't
- start calling people names.
-
-

I think i know what you talking about Rall /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 05:30 PM
Hi Seafire,

Although I'd count myself as one of the people who occasionally goes as far out of my way as possible to be obnoxious, I think I'm fairly discriminating in my choice of targets.

If you want less craziness in your FB forum diet, head over to SimHQ. I don't know if it's the fact that it's not an official site, stricter moderation, or the general crowd of people who post there. It just tends to be a lot more reasonable and well reasoned.

That and the fact that when excessively stupid people turn up they're told "go back to the UBI forum" :>


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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 05:51 PM
Maybe if the link to the forums wasn't on the IL2 homepage (altho I know that's a ridiculous suggestion) then the forums might not get flooded. On the other hand, that would be unfair to the "silent majority" that was mentioned earlier. We don't see as many new posters showing up asking legitimate questions, or even saying hello, anymore. Look at the board front and tell me that wouldn't put someone off that has just arrived. It'd be like walking into someone elses house right in the middle of a big argument. Easy to walk right back out again.

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XyZspineZyX
09-23-2003, 05:51 PM
RayBanJockey wrote:
- My settings are halfway in between medium and full
- real
-
- Anyway my point is that too many people get stuck on
- the concept of full real, to the point where it
- clouds their better judgement.
-



Ohh yeah, thats the answer, sure full real, or no wait attack on slider users, no wait...........


bull


so is this thread. Some people are upset playing this game some arnt, some play with all settings clicked on some dont, such is life.


You can always find a good group of people to fly this game with and in the settings you like so cork it.

"better judgement"


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