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mikeh1294
08-31-2011, 11:31 AM
Well UbiWorkshop have just put up a video of the Assassin's Creed Encyclopaedia, and I couldn't really see a thread about this so I'm sorry if there is already one.

I thought I'd write up the bits about Erudito and Subject 16 that appear briefly, seems as these are the two characters we don't know too much about.



Erudito
It is unclear whether Erudito is a person or a group, but evidence thus far suggests that it is a collective composed of a number of individuals working independently, but who share a common purpose: to stand in direct opposition to Abstergo Industries. Whether this Erudito Collective is in collusion with the Assassin Brotherhood or not remains unclear. However, knowingly or not, the actions of the Collective undoubtedly serve the cause of the Assassins at this time.

Despite Abstergo Industries maintaining stat of the art computer security, the Collective has…



…the Abstergo computer mainframes, it is becoming obvious for all concerned that the Collective presents a real threat.

Abstergo Industries security currently has a find and capture order out on Erudito. This is also accompanied by a retrieval of technologies request, so that the hackers' means of access into the company's network may be studies and appropriate countermeasures applied.

[B]Subject 16

Sixteen (1982 - 2012) is no longer human, but rather an AI recreation of Subject 16's personality inside the Animus. As such he is able to manipulate much of the Animus' programming from within to aid Desmond Miles in his fight against the Templars.

Prior to Desmond's abduction by the Abstergo Corporation, the Templars made several attempts to unpack the memories of another Assassin known only as Subject 16, who specialized in computer hacking and engineering. Under the direction of Warren Vidic, the Templars spent many months diving deep into the genetic memory of Subject 16 with the hope of unveiling the location of the legendary Apple of Eden. Tragically, the strain of remaining in the Animus for hours at a time began to disintegrate his psyche, merging it with those of his ancestors.

Subject 16 gathered a new sense of purpose after Vidic discovered that he was a direct descendant of…
[page ends]

So who do you think 16 is a descendant of? Altair? Or perhaps a Templar?

There is also an entry on "Piri Reis", who's full name is "Hadji Muhiddin Piri Ibn Hadji Mehmed". From the name alone we can find out he was an Ottoman admiral, who was also one of the best cartographers around. He made two world maps in 1513 and 1528, and died in 1554 or 1555.

I'm not going to write it up as we can only see the right hand side of the column. But we can make out something about "contact for learning of bomb making in Constantinople". So we can assume that it is he who teaches Ezio how to make the different types of bombs.

Just thought this might be useful =)

Assassin_M
08-31-2011, 11:53 AM
DAMN !!! that S*** is full of SPOILERS !!!!

mikeh1294
08-31-2011, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by Assassin_M:
DAMN !!! that S*** is full of SPOILERS !!!!

Sorry =( I didn't that they were that major. =(

twenty_glyphs
08-31-2011, 11:58 AM
Glad I checked before I posted, because I just typed up the same Erudito and Subject 16 info. One thing to note is that on Ezio's bio page, you can see that the year of his death is 1524. This may be when Embers takes place, but I'm not sure.

Near the end of the videos, there are pages about Ezio's story that I typed out too. I'm going to start with a quote from the end of Brotherhood's story (which pretty much canonizes the Brotherhood novel's ending) and then all the relevant Revelations plot details that are in the video. These are details of the Revelations plot, but reveal nothing about the First Civilization, Altaïr or any of the big mysteries.


*** SPOILERS ***

Ezio reclaimed the Apple of Eden and used it against the remaining Borgia forces, driving them from Rome entirely. He then set out about dealing with Borgia supporters throughout Italy, but while doing so found that Cesare had escaped from papal custody. Ezio was unable to prevent Cesare's flight, but the Apple of Eden told him of his enemy's eventual destination: Spain. The Apple then let Ezio know that it should be relinquished, and he hid it in a temple under the Colosseo, where it remained undisturbed for five hundred years.

Following this, Ezio, Leonardo and Machiavelli journeyed to Spain in pursuit of Cesare. Though Leonardo returned home and Machiavelli was seriously wounded, Ezio eventually tracked his enemy to the town of Viana, which Cesare was laying siege to on behalf of the King of Navarre. He caught up with Cesare on the battlements, and threw him to his death.

With the Borgias gone for good, Ezio shifted his focus to more political matters. He helped stabilize the Assassins in Italy, improving lines of communication from Sicily to Venice and standardizing training methods for recruits. In 1509, while examining papers and documents left behind by his late uncle, Ezio came across a letter written by his own father. In it, Giovanni Auditore mentioned a locked library hidden below Masyaf castle, the birthplace and home of Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad. Spurred on by curiosity, Ezio set off in late 1510 to locate this library.

For ten months he traveled the Mediterranean, getting his first real taste of seafaring and the East, finally arriving at Masyaf in mid 1511. There, to his surprise, he found a host of encamped Templars ...

...

Led by the writings of Niccolo Polo, father to Marco and the man responsible for bringing the Creed to Italy, Ezio hurried to Constantinople with the hope of beating the Templars to the remaining keys. Upon his arrival, he quickly fell in with the Ottoman Assassins and their Grand Master, Yusuf Tazim, establishing a fast friendship that proved invaluable to Ezio's search. After helping Yusuf secure the Galata District from a ferocious Byzantine attack, Ezio turned his attention back to acquiring the keys. With the help of turkish cartographer Piri Reis, he located Niccolo Polo's former trading post, a building then occupied by a beautiful Venetian expatriate named Sofia Sartor. It was there, in the cisterns below the trading post, that Ezio located another Masyaf key, as well as an encrypted map. With Sofia's aid, Ezio learned that this map pointed to the locations of the other keys.

Knowing that the Templars still had one of the keys in their possession, Ezio spent much of his time in the city looking for the source of their leadership, a search that led him straight to the Ottoman royal family. After rescuing young Prince Suleiman from a Byzantine attack, Ezio quickly gained his trust and together they conducted a secret investigation of their own, trying to determine the loyalties of various men close to Suleiman's grandfather, Sultan Bayezid II.

After some twists and blind alleys, the result of their investigation revealed the identity of Manuel Palailogos, nephew of the last Byzantine Emperor, Constantine XI, and presumptive heir to his once great Empire. After some difficulty, Ezio tracked ...

mikeh1294
08-31-2011, 12:00 PM
Thanks for the extra information mate! I didn't think to check Ezio's entry for information, so good work! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ShaneO7K
08-31-2011, 12:16 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Wasn't expecting this, now if you excuse me I must now go and erase what I have just seen from my memory.


Wasn't expecting the whole Erudito and S16 info but it wasn't a lot but still something I would've perfered to hear in the game, but I just couldn't help myself lol.

zerocooll21
08-31-2011, 12:21 PM
haha yah I saw the vid and was like holly **** i can read it!! Then started thinking I shouldn't read it b/c it could ruin the game. Temptation got the best of me.

There really isn't anything new in there.

albertwesker22
08-31-2011, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by dead_gunner187:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Wasn't expecting this, now if you excuse me I must now go and erase what I have just seen from my memory.

Vodka will help with that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ShaneO7K
08-31-2011, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by albertwesker22:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dead_gunner187:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Wasn't expecting this, now if you excuse me I must now go and erase what I have just seen from my memory.

Vodka will help with that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was the plan, if only the hangover wasn't a necessary thing with it though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

LightRey
08-31-2011, 12:27 PM
Interesting stuff. Can't wait to read the whole thing (after playing the game).

zerocooll21
08-31-2011, 12:36 PM
Deff, pre-ordered yesterday http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Can't, effin, wait.

gharlazufarc
08-31-2011, 12:42 PM
From the video Altair died in 1257, the same year Masyaf fell to Mongols in Secret Crusade

also
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3995/afasff.png
is that suppose to be concept art of AC2 hideout?
because I don't recall there's a David statue in that place.

and one more thing, William M. is William Miles, just pause it at the right time

LightRey
08-31-2011, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by gharlazufarc:
From the video Altair died in 1257, the same year Masyaf fell to Mongols in Secret Crusade

also
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3995/afasff.png
is that suppose to be concept art of AC2 hideout?
because I don't recall there's a David statue in that place.

and one more thing, William M. is William Miles, just pause it at the right time
They don't even seem to be in the sanctuary, the picture is likely not entirely canon.

Good job on the William M. thing.

mikeh1294
08-31-2011, 12:46 PM
and one more thing, William M. is William Miles, just pause it at the right time

Wasn't William. M the head Assassin who was sending emails in Brotherhood? Or am I completely wrong?

Also, it's concept art, so it doesn't represent the final look of the area, it's just a general guideline.

twenty_glyphs
08-31-2011, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by gharlazufarc:
is that suppose to be concept art of AC2 hideout?
because I don't recall there's a David statue in that place.

and one more thing, William M. is William Miles, just pause it at the right time

Nice catch on the 1257 date of Altaïr's death. I'm pretty sure the art is concept art from AC2's hideout. It definitely didn't have paintings or the David statue in the final version though. I believe this same artwork is in the AC2 guide, and if not that one, the Brotherhood guide. The doors and ceiling fan look like the ones from AC2's hideout, and the general mood of the artwork matches the final version, which is what the main goal of the art is for.

twenty_glyphs
08-31-2011, 01:04 PM
I saw something else interesting in the Jerusalem article. It says the chamber where the Apple of Eden was discovered at the beginning of AC1 was built by TWCB and existed before the Temple of Solomon was built on top of it:

Beneath the Temple Mount lie the ancient ruins of Solomon's Temple. Believed to have been built circa 950 BCE, the First Temple, as it was called, was erected on Mount Moriah by King Solomon. Underneath it is a secret, underground chamber, which predates the temple itself. Built by Those Who Came Before, this secret vault held an Apple of Eden. In 1191 CE, this vault (and the Apple within it) was discovered by Templar Robert de Sable, as well as by Assassin Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad and the brothers Malik and Kadar A-Sayf.

LightRey
08-31-2011, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
I saw something else interesting in the Jerusalem article. It says the chamber where the Apple of Eden was discovered at the beginning of AC1 was built by TWCB and existed before the Temple of Solomon was built on top of it:

Beneath the Temple Mount lie the ancient ruins of Solomon's Temple. Believed to have been built circa 950 BCE, the First Temple, as it was called, was erected on Mount Moriah by King Solomon. Underneath it is a secret, underground chamber, which predates the temple itself. Built by Those Who Came Before, this secret vault held an Apple of Eden. In 1191 CE, this vault (and the Apple within it) was discovered by Templar Robert de Sable, as well as by Assassin Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad and the brothers Malik and Kadar A-Sayf.
Damn, we <STRIKE>could've</STRIKE> should've guessed most of that.

Altair661
08-31-2011, 01:50 PM
I dont think this was that bad of spoliers...I should'nt of read it, cause I would've preferred to hear everything in the game, but oh well. So indeed 16's physical body is dead, and this kinda confirms that we'll see him in ACR with Desmond. Maybe not, but most likely

Assassin_M
08-31-2011, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Altair661:
I dont think this was that bad of spoliers...I should'nt of read it, cause I would've preferred to hear everything in the game, but oh well. So indeed 16's physical body is dead, and this kinda confirms that we'll see him in ACR with Desmond. Maybe not, but most likely
Knowing Ezio`s date of death made me <STRIKE>cry</STRIKE> Sad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

LightRey
08-31-2011, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Altair661:
I dont think this was that bad of spoliers...I should'nt of read it, cause I would've preferred to hear everything in the game, but oh well. So indeed 16's physical body is dead, and this kinda confirms that we'll see him in ACR with Desmond. Maybe not, but most likely
Knowing Ezio`s date of death made me <STRIKE>cry</STRIKE> Sad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Why? Did you expect him to live on forever?

Assassin_M
08-31-2011, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Altair661:
I dont think this was that bad of spoliers...I should'nt of read it, cause I would've preferred to hear everything in the game, but oh well. So indeed 16's physical body is dead, and this kinda confirms that we'll see him in ACR with Desmond. Maybe not, but most likely
Knowing Ezio`s date of death made me <STRIKE>cry</STRIKE> Sad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Why? Did you expect him to live on forever? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
of course not, I wanted to keep that moment of sorrow for Embers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LightRey
08-31-2011, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Altair661:
I dont think this was that bad of spoliers...I should'nt of read it, cause I would've preferred to hear everything in the game, but oh well. So indeed 16's physical body is dead, and this kinda confirms that we'll see him in ACR with Desmond. Maybe not, but most likely
Knowing Ezio`s date of death made me <STRIKE>cry</STRIKE> Sad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Why? Did you expect him to live on forever? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
of course not, I wanted to keep that moment of sorrow for Embers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
xD
oh well, I'm just glad this is basically the execution of the "Altaïr/Ezio is still alive" theory

Assassin_M
08-31-2011, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Altair661:
I dont think this was that bad of spoliers...I should'nt of read it, cause I would've preferred to hear everything in the game, but oh well. So indeed 16's physical body is dead, and this kinda confirms that we'll see him in ACR with Desmond. Maybe not, but most likely
Knowing Ezio`s date of death made me <STRIKE>cry</STRIKE> Sad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Why? Did you expect him to live on forever? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
of course not, I wanted to keep that moment of sorrow for Embers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
xD
oh well, I'm just glad this is basically the execution of the "Altaïr/Ezio is still alive" theory </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Dont think so, some people still think the guy in the gamescom Demo isnt Desmond XD

RzaRecta357
08-31-2011, 03:09 PM
The Video (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/making-of-assassins-creed/720098)

So what I love? They have an awesome pic of Daniel and his hair is short again almost like he might be in a game sometime for real.

Subject 16 is some blonde guy. Maybe Daniel? But I think he's 4.


But biggest and weirdest.....WHo is this Assassin chick? Asian? I hope we don't actually see some japan setting. I wouldn't dig it.

She had quite the bio too.

Assassin_M
08-31-2011, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by RzaRecta357:
The Video (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/making-of-assassins-creed/720098)

So what I love? They have an awesome pic of Daniel and his hair is short again almost like he might be in a game sometime for real.

Subject 16 is some blonde guy. Maybe Daniel? But I think he's 4.


But biggest and weirdest.....WHo is this Assassin chick? Asian? I hope we don't actually see some japan setting. I wouldn't dig it.

She had quite the bio too.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1069024/m/8081088449 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/8081088449) for the Chinese/Japanese/Yellow Chick

an-assassin
09-01-2011, 12:23 AM
I am in doubt, if I should read it. Is it MAJOR spoilers, or just small ones?

roostersrule2
09-01-2011, 12:26 AM
i think we found another one of Desmond's enemies that will be in ACR or AC3 Anson Peake look at 1:03 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...dAsQ5w&feature=feedu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJO52dAsQ5w&feature=feedu)

CRUDFACE
09-01-2011, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Altair661:
I dont think this was that bad of spoliers...I should'nt of read it, cause I would've preferred to hear everything in the game, but oh well. So indeed 16's physical body is dead, and this kinda confirms that we'll see him in ACR with Desmond. Maybe not, but most likely
Knowing Ezio`s date of death made me <STRIKE>cry</STRIKE> Sad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Why? Did you expect him to live on forever? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
of course not, I wanted to keep that moment of sorrow for Embers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
xD
oh well, I'm just glad this is basically the execution of the "Altaïr/Ezio is still alive" theory </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's what Fanfiction is made out of...it's one of the top three overused things in Assassin's Creed fandom! It gets on my nerves so much.

kalo.yanis
09-01-2011, 04:27 AM
Some of the things I noticed:

First of all, we can see that the encyclopedia lists several people as Ezio's allies in Revelations (and Embers?):

Prince Suleiman, Piri Reis and Shao Jun. So, the chinese chick will not be an enemy in Embers.

Under Enemies, there is a group called the Constantinople Confrontation (unnecessary alliteration), consisting of:
Prince Ahmet
Manuel Palaiologos
Shahnkulu
Prince Selim I

Also, Perotto Calderon is mentioned under others. Is it simply because of Project Legacy?

Under "recent history" there is an event called "The Great Purge", which happened before the events in Abstergo Industries.

Also, William M. is Desmon's dad.

Furthermore, Subject 16 is deffo dead and his consciousness is perpetuating in the animus. Erudito might or might not be a group of people.

Piri Reis is the one who taugh Ezio how to craft bombs and was also a Master Assassin and a master cartographer. He had a studio in the Bazaar.

Aaaaand...

Old Ezio
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/NightBlade151/oldezio.png

mikeh1294
09-01-2011, 04:58 AM
We don't know that William M. is Desmond's father.

At the moment we know of "William M." and "Bill Miles". Now, they may be the same person, and they probably are, but we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

Ubi have a hidden piece of the story that we don't know, and are probably going to reveal it in Revelations. I wouldn't put it past them to have two characters distinct characters with the same name. Much like the Giovanni and Maria in Project: Legacy aren't Ezio's parents.

Assassin_M
09-01-2011, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by mikini:
We don't know that William M. is Desmond's father.

At the moment we know of "William M." and "Bill Miles". Now, they may be the same person, and they probably are, but we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

Ubi have a hidden piece of the story that we don't know, and are probably going to reveal it in Revelations. I wouldn't put it past them to have two characters distinct characters with the same name. Much like the Giovanni and Maria in Project: Legacy aren't Ezio's parents.
I saw it somewhere in the Video William "Bill" Miles

mikeh1294
09-01-2011, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mikini:
We don't know that William M. is Desmond's father.

At the moment we know of "William M." and "Bill Miles". Now, they may be the same person, and they probably are, but we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

Ubi have a hidden piece of the story that we don't know, and are probably going to reveal it in Revelations. I wouldn't put it past them to have two characters distinct characters with the same name. Much like the Giovanni and Maria in Project: Legacy aren't Ezio's parents.
I saw it somewhere in the Video William "Bill" Miles </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I only saw Bill Miles in the video, not William. I know they are short for each other, and it would be quite fitting that Desmond's father runs the organisation. But I just have a feeling it's not him.

If I'm wrong, I'll be sure to apologise,by all means.

Assassin_M
09-01-2011, 05:45 AM
Originally posted by mikini:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mikini:
We don't know that William M. is Desmond's father.

At the moment we know of "William M." and "Bill Miles". Now, they may be the same person, and they probably are, but we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

Ubi have a hidden piece of the story that we don't know, and are probably going to reveal it in Revelations. I wouldn't put it past them to have two characters distinct characters with the same name. Much like the Giovanni and Maria in Project: Legacy aren't Ezio's parents.
I saw it somewhere in the Video William "Bill" Miles </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I only saw Bill Miles in the video, not William. I know they are short for each other, and it would be quite fitting that Desmond's father runs the organisation. But I just have a feeling it's not him.

If I'm wrong, I'll be sure to apologise,by all means. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I`ll watch the Video again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ShaneO7K
09-01-2011, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by NBST:


Old Ezio
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/NightBlade151/oldezio.png

Yeah I think that's just a concept art for Embers.

Though Daniel Cross looks way different in his picture. I wonder if The Chain continues right after The Fall or if it jumped a few years because Daniel definetly has a more modern look.

dxsxhxcx
09-01-2011, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by RzaRecta357:
The Video (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/making-of-assassins-creed/720098)

So what I love? They have an awesome pic of Daniel and his hair is short again almost like he might be in a game sometime for real.



not in a game (if you meant his own game), maybe he might be in the game (ACR or AC3), because if you pay attention to his article in the encyclopedia, you'll see that he only has a born year mentioned there (1974) and no death year, meaning he's still alive... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DylanJosh9
09-01-2011, 05:58 AM
I got this from a YouTube comment

1:00 Wiliiam Miles and Aquilus. Aquilus is interesting because Gabe mentioned that we'll be playing as another character in the past, that we might already be familiar with.
1:42 Altaïr's year of birth/death, Ezio's year of death,
1:47 info about Erudito and Subject 16 (didn't read because of the spoilers though :P),
1:51 Japanese assassin (!),
4:29 Ezio as an older Grand Master. But possibly the by far coolest hint:
4:39, painting on the left in the background. American civil war assassin.

ShaneO7K
09-01-2011, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by mikini:


I only saw Bill Miles in the video, not William. I know they are short for each other, and it would be quite fitting that Desmond's father runs the organisation. But I just have a feeling it's not him.

If I'm wrong, I'll be sure to apologise,by all means.

Look closely,you can see William "Bill" Miles.

LightRey
09-01-2011, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mikini:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mikini:
We don't know that William M. is Desmond's father.

At the moment we know of "William M." and "Bill Miles". Now, they may be the same person, and they probably are, but we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

Ubi have a hidden piece of the story that we don't know, and are probably going to reveal it in Revelations. I wouldn't put it past them to have two characters distinct characters with the same name. Much like the Giovanni and Maria in Project: Legacy aren't Ezio's parents.
I saw it somewhere in the Video William "Bill" Miles </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I only saw Bill Miles in the video, not William. I know they are short for each other, and it would be quite fitting that Desmond's father runs the organisation. But I just have a feeling it's not him.

If I'm wrong, I'll be sure to apologise,by all means. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I`ll watch the Video again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It says William "Bill" Miles. I just checked. Either way it still doesn't mean it's his father. It just means that they're most likely related.

Assassin_M
09-01-2011, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mikini:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mikini:
We don't know that William M. is Desmond's father.

At the moment we know of "William M." and "Bill Miles". Now, they may be the same person, and they probably are, but we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

Ubi have a hidden piece of the story that we don't know, and are probably going to reveal it in Revelations. I wouldn't put it past them to have two characters distinct characters with the same name. Much like the Giovanni and Maria in Project: Legacy aren't Ezio's parents.
I saw it somewhere in the Video William "Bill" Miles </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I only saw Bill Miles in the video, not William. I know they are short for each other, and it would be quite fitting that Desmond's father runs the organisation. But I just have a feeling it's not him.

If I'm wrong, I'll be sure to apologise,by all means. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I`ll watch the Video again http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It says William "Bill" Miles. I just checked. Either way it still doesn't mean it's his father. It just means that they're most likely related. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
THANK YOU !!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I found it too just now and came to post, but you beat me to it..

reini03
09-01-2011, 06:12 AM
Originally posted by HarshJaguar3:
I got this from a YouTube comment

1:00 Wiliiam Miles and Aquilus. Aquilus is interesting because Gabe mentioned that we'll be playing as another character in the past, that we might already be familiar with.
1:42 Altaïr's year of birth/death, Ezio's year of death,
1:47 info about Erudito and Subject 16 (didn't read because of the spoilers though :P),
1:51 Japanese assassin (!),
4:29 Ezio as an older Grand Master. But possibly the by far coolest hint:
4:39, painting on the left in the background. American civil war assassin.

The Japanese assassin will be in Assassin's Creed Embers, there's a thread about her. And the painting of the American Civil war is pretty old, they showed it before on UbiWorkshop and said that it was just fanart or art by some guy in their office, can't remember.

DylanJosh9
09-01-2011, 06:40 AM
At what minute in the video do u guys see William Bill Miles? I can't find it

ShaneO7K
09-01-2011, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by HarshJaguar3:
At what minute in the video do u guys see William Bill Miles? I can't find it

On the line going to the Ezio picture at the right side.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-...iambillmilesac3.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/acrwilliambillmilesac3.png/)

dxsxhxcx
09-01-2011, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by dead_gunner187:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HarshJaguar3:
At what minute in the video do u guys see William Bill Miles? I can't find it

On the line going to the Ezio picture at the right side.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-...iambillmilesac3.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/acrwilliambillmilesac3.png/) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

why is Daniel Cross linked to ACB?! theories... theories... :P

Assassin_M
09-01-2011, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dead_gunner187:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HarshJaguar3:
At what minute in the video do u guys see William Bill Miles? I can't find it

On the line going to the Ezio picture at the right side.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-...iambillmilesac3.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/acrwilliambillmilesac3.png/) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

why is Daniel Cross linked to ACB?! theories... theories... :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The cross darkens The Horizon ?????

CRUDFACE
09-01-2011, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dead_gunner187:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HarshJaguar3:
At what minute in the video do u guys see William Bill Miles? I can't find it

On the line going to the Ezio picture at the right side.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-...iambillmilesac3.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/acrwilliambillmilesac3.png/) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

why is Daniel Cross linked to ACB?! theories... theories... :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The cross darkens The Horizon ????? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pretty sure that's concerning the Templars, but THE Chain is coming out soon! Can't wait to see if they continued his story well or are really starting to milk this series dry.

dxsxhxcx
09-01-2011, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dead_gunner187:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HarshJaguar3:
At what minute in the video do u guys see William Bill Miles? I can't find it

On the line going to the Ezio picture at the right side.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-...iambillmilesac3.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/acrwilliambillmilesac3.png/) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

why is Daniel Cross linked to ACB?! theories... theories... :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The cross darkens The Horizon ????? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

the first thing I thought was this.. :P

what IF Daniel is the descendant of Eve that Desmond needs to find?! I was reading the comic again and there's a page in the #2 [SPOILERS] where Nikolai is almost reaching the staff and then we can read a conversation* about someone mentioning Eve (like this person was talking with her, what if Daniel/Nikolai "were" her in the past), what if Nikolai/Daniel was able to see the past/future of his lineage in his blood when he touched the staff?!


the conversation I was talking about:

"Adam I have it"
"just like ytour father... Eve"

zerocooll21
09-01-2011, 07:53 AM
The cross darkens the horizon could be interrupted as Danial killing the Mentor. The horizon being Juno's vision of the future now cloudy after the mentors death.

twenty_glyphs
09-01-2011, 07:54 AM
Anson Peake is the dorky guy running Project Legacy for Abstergo. According to their Facebook page updates from June, he's gone missing and Abstergo is looking for him.

The link of Daniel Cross from Brotherhood to The Fall #1 is likely because he is mentioned in Cluster 8 of Brotherhood in a letter from Warren Vidic as Subject 4. The link of William "Bill" Miles from The Fall #2 to Revelations is likely because he was mentioned in that issue as "Bill Miles" and will play a role in Revelations. They even have a dotted line running from AC2 to The Fall #1 that says "Tunguska & Staff", indicating that AC2's glyphs referenced the Tunguska event and the Staff that led to this issue (though AC1's emails mentioned Tunguska too). It shows you the level of detail they're using in tracking their clues and characters across iterations of the story.

It's interesting that there's a dotted line leading from The Fall #3 to a circle that says "Assassin's Creed 3" and it says "Hints about something (nothing crucial)". There's probably some hint about AC3 in The Fall #3, but I can't figure out what it is. It could be when Daniel Cross says he's seen humanity's potential, but only he can unlock it (likely Desmond). It could have something to do with the Mentor talking about being a living conduit for all who came before him. But that line does say "nothing crucial", so it's probably just a nice easter egg we'll enjoy once we know more about AC3.

Also from the map of all the story entries, it appears that the Aquilus comic is being considered canon. I believe that comic is in French, but I saw some pages from it a long time ago that showed guys shooting up the side of the van Desmond is riding in. In Brotherhood, you can see those bullet holes on the side of the van when you're setting up the electricity. Also, there's a line leading from Aquilus that says "Direct Sequel" and points to a circle titled "Accipiter". This is the same style as Embers' relationship to Revelations on the same map, so I have a feeling this is the title of a sequel to the Aquilus comic book, though it may just be another French comic. Accipiter is the name of a type of bird of prey, so it fits in the world of eagles.

dxsxhxcx
09-01-2011, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
Anson Peake is the dorky guy running Project Legacy for Abstergo. According to their Facebook page updates from June, he's gone missing and Abstergo is looking for him.

The link of Daniel Cross from Brotherhood to The Fall #1 is likely because he is mentioned in Cluster 8 of Brotherhood in a letter from Warren Vidic as Subject 4. The link of William "Bill" Miles from The Fall #2 to Revelations is likely because he was mentioned in that issue as "Bill Miles" and will play a role in Revelations. They even have a dotted line running from AC2 to The Fall #1 that says "Tunguska & Staff", indicating that AC2's glyphs referenced the Tunguska event and the Staff that led to this issue (though AC1's emails mentioned Tunguska too). It shows you the level of detail they're using in tracking their clues and characters across iterations of the story.

It's interesting that there's a dotted line leading from The Fall #3 to a circle that says "Assassin's Creed 3" and it says "Hints about something (nothing crucial)". There's probably some hint about AC3 in The Fall #3, but I can't figure out what it is. It could be when Daniel Cross says he's seen humanity's potential, but only he can unlock it (likely Desmond). It could have something to do with the Mentor talking about being a living conduit for all who came before him. But that line does say "nothing crucial", so it's probably just a nice easter egg we'll enjoy once we know more about AC3.

Also from the map of all the story entries, it appears that the Aquilus comic is being considered canon. I believe that comic is in French, but I saw some pages from it a long time ago that showed guys shooting up the side of the van Desmond is riding in. In Brotherhood, you can see those bullet holes on the side of the van when you're setting up the electricity. Also, there's a line leading from Aquilus that says "Direct Sequel" and points to a circle titled "Accipiter". This is the same style as Embers' relationship to Revelations on the same map, so I have a feeling this is the title of a sequel to the Aquilus comic book, though it may just be another French comic. Accipiter is the name of a type of bird of prey, so it fits in the world of eagles.


thanks for posting this, and you're right, I forgot about the glyphs... :P

just one thing (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), in Aquilus S16 is alive and Amancio already mentioned he's dead, so maybe they're just using part of it (the guys shooting the van) in the story?!

zerocooll21
09-01-2011, 08:12 AM
What if Daniel cross, subject 4 while being brain washed, becomes subject 16. During the time he was gone other subjects could have come thru and by the time he makes his way back to abstergo, he is stuffed in the animus as S16. Feeling guilty for killing the mentor then decides to exact revenge on the templars.

Now S16 is dead and some one mentioned you don't see a death year for Cross in that last trailer so I could be completely wrong. Still though, that image of him in the encyclopedia looks close to the blurred out one of S16.

Assassin_M
09-01-2011, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dead_gunner187:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HarshJaguar3:
At what minute in the video do u guys see William Bill Miles? I can't find it

On the line going to the Ezio picture at the right side.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-...iambillmilesac3.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/acrwilliambillmilesac3.png/) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

why is Daniel Cross linked to ACB?! theories... theories... :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The cross darkens The Horizon ????? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

the first thing I thought was this.. :P

what IF Daniel is the descendant of Eve that Desmond needs to find?! I was reading the comic again and there's a page in the #2 [SPOILERS] where Nikolai is almost reaching the staff and then we can read a conversation* about someone mentioning Eve (like this person was talking with her, what if Daniel/Nikolai "were" her in the past), what if Nikolai/Daniel was able to see the past/future of his lineage in his blood when he touched the staff?!


the conversation I was talking about:

"Adam I have it"
"just like ytour father... Eve" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
And when he finds the Descendant of Eve ?? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif .... No no no. Just NO bad HOMO Thoughts..

twenty_glyphs
09-01-2011, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
thanks for posting this, and you're right, I forgot about the glyphs... :P

just one thing (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), in Aquilus S16 is alive and Amancio already mentioned he's dead, so maybe they're just using part of it (the guys shooting the van) in the story?!

So I've researched this a little more. The wiki entry for the graphic novels mention that the first one is likely not canon because that one has Subject 16 alive, but that the second one, Aquilus, seems to be canon. And there was a character named Accipiter in the Aquilus comic.

http://assassinscreed.wikia.co...French_Graphic_Novel (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_-_French_Graphic_Novel)
http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Accipiter

LightRey
09-01-2011, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
thanks for posting this, and you're right, I forgot about the glyphs... :P

just one thing (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), in Aquilus S16 is alive and Amancio already mentioned he's dead, so maybe they're just using part of it (the guys shooting the van) in the story?!

So I've researched this a little more. The wiki entry for the graphic novels mention that the first one is likely not canon because that one has Subject 16 alive, but that the second one, Aquilus, seems to be canon. And there was a character named Accipiter in the Aquilus comic.

http://assassinscreed.wikia.co...French_Graphic_Novel (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_-_French_Graphic_Novel)
http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Accipiter </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think this is the most likely, yes.

AntiChrist7
09-01-2011, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dead_gunner187:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HarshJaguar3:
At what minute in the video do u guys see William Bill Miles? I can't find it

On the line going to the Ezio picture at the right side.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-...iambillmilesac3.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/acrwilliambillmilesac3.png/) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

why is Daniel Cross linked to ACB?! theories... theories... :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The cross darkens The Horizon ????? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

the first thing I thought was this.. :P

what IF Daniel is the descendant of Eve that Desmond needs to find?! I was reading the comic again and there's a page in the #2 [SPOILERS] where Nikolai is almost reaching the staff and then we can read a conversation* about someone mentioning Eve (like this person was talking with her, what if Daniel/Nikolai "were" her in the past), what if Nikolai/Daniel was able to see the past/future of his lineage in his blood when he touched the staff?!


the conversation I was talking about:

"Adam I have it"
"just like ytour father... Eve" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
And when he finds the Descendant of Eve ?? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif .... No no no. Just NO bad HOMO Thoughts.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

juno and 16 clearly say "her dna" and "only SHE remains to be found"

mikeh1294
09-01-2011, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
thanks for posting this, and you're right, I forgot about the glyphs... :P

just one thing (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), in Aquilus S16 is alive and Amancio already mentioned he's dead, so maybe they're just using part of it (the guys shooting the van) in the story?!

So I've researched this a little more. The wiki entry for the graphic novels mention that the first one is likely not canon because that one has Subject 16 alive, but that the second one, Aquilus, seems to be canon. And there was a character named Accipiter in the Aquilus comic.

http://assassinscreed.wikia.co...French_Graphic_Novel (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_-_French_Graphic_Novel)
http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Accipiter </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


One of the UbiWorkshop staff members posted this on their forums about 30 minutes ago:


The french graphic novel is not canon on many aspects.

We kept everything that was canon from the french graphic novel and included it into the encyclopedia but excluded everything else.

In other words, the encyclopedia is canon ;-)

LightRey
09-01-2011, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by AntiChrist7:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dead_gunner187:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HarshJaguar3:
At what minute in the video do u guys see William Bill Miles? I can't find it

On the line going to the Ezio picture at the right side.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-...iambillmilesac3.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/acrwilliambillmilesac3.png/) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

why is Daniel Cross linked to ACB?! theories... theories... :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The cross darkens The Horizon ????? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

the first thing I thought was this.. :P

what IF Daniel is the descendant of Eve that Desmond needs to find?! I was reading the comic again and there's a page in the #2 [SPOILERS] where Nikolai is almost reaching the staff and then we can read a conversation* about someone mentioning Eve (like this person was talking with her, what if Daniel/Nikolai "were" her in the past), what if Nikolai/Daniel was able to see the past/future of his lineage in his blood when he touched the staff?!


the conversation I was talking about:

"Adam I have it"
"just like ytour father... Eve" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
And when he finds the Descendant of Eve ?? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif .... No no no. Just NO bad HOMO Thoughts.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

juno and 16 clearly say "her dna" and "only SHE remains to be found" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Which is a pathetic basis for such a theory. It could mean so many more things that require fewer assumptions that it's barely any basis at all for this theory.

eagleforlife1
09-01-2011, 09:09 AM
In the contents page underneath Ezio Audtirore da Firenze there is a subtitle: Conflicts and this is mentioned as one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Eahkulu_Rebellion

LightRey
09-01-2011, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
In the contents page underneath Ezio Audtirore da Firenze there is a subtitle: Conflicts and this is mentioned as one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Eahkulu_Rebellion
Interesting. Looks like we've found one of the assassination targets.

Saqaliba
09-01-2011, 09:28 PM
If Altair - 1165-1257 then he is 92 when he dies. Historically, Masyef fell to the Mongols in 1260.

If Ezio = 1459-1524 the he is 65 when he dies. Historically in 1524 a Florentine explorer called Giovanni da Verrazzano becomes the first European to navigate to America since the Norse expeditions. This would be a perfect plot development in lines with Altair sending the Polos off to Constantinople... Ezio sends Verrazzano of to America to set up an Assassin's order in the New World... American Indians... EAGLES!

SleezeRocker
09-01-2011, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by dead_gunner187:
excuse me I must now go and erase what I have just seen from my memory.




Here you go man: Unlearn what you have learned (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4jeREy7Pbc)

roostersrule2
09-02-2011, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dead_gunner187:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HarshJaguar3:
At what minute in the video do u guys see William Bill Miles? I can't find it

On the line going to the Ezio picture at the right side.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-...iambillmilesac3.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/acrwilliambillmilesac3.png/) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

why is Daniel Cross linked to ACB?! theories... theories... :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The cross darkens The Horizon ????? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>ive never actually thought of that nor have i seen someone else say it but i havent read the comics but i know the gist of what happens so that would mean daniel got out of his mind control thing maybe

zerocooll21
09-02-2011, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by Saqaliba:
If Altair - 1165-1257 then he is 92 when he dies. Historically, Masyef fell to the Mongols in 1260.

If Ezio = 1459-1524 the he is 65 when he dies. Historically in 1524 a Florentine explorer called Giovanni da Verrazzano becomes the first European to navigate to America since the Norse expeditions. This would be a perfect plot development in lines with Altair sending the Polos off to Constantinople... Ezio sends Verrazzano of to America to set up an Assassin's order in the New World... American Indians... EAGLES!

Nice find, just read up a little on him.

" He was killed and eaten by the native Carib inhabitants"

Ouch hahaha

CRUDFACE
09-02-2011, 04:28 AM
That sounds painful...I'd take the hidden blade to the throat over that.


Originally posted by roostersrule2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Assassin_M:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dead_gunner187:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HarshJaguar3:
At what minute in the video do u guys see William Bill Miles? I can't find it

On the line going to the Ezio picture at the right side.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-...iambillmilesac3.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/acrwilliambillmilesac3.png/) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

why is Daniel Cross linked to ACB?! theories... theories... :P </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The cross darkens The Horizon ????? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>ive never actually thought of that nor have i seen someone else say it but i havent read the comics but i know the gist of what happens so that would mean daniel got out of his mind control thing maybe </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you're going to get the comics, you should wait until they put them into a single volume since they're going to include a special epilogue that goes into the next series of comics; Assassin's Creed: The Chain

eagleforlife1
09-02-2011, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by NBST:
Piri Reis is the one who taugh Ezio how to craft bombs and was also a Master Assassin and a master cartographer. He had a studio in the Bazaar.

In Project Legacy Ezio ordered the Ottoman Brotherhood to steal some of his maps from his workshop.

rob.davies2014
09-03-2011, 12:12 PM
I think that Ezio, fearing that he and his family might be in danger and accepting that he may not be strong enough to defend them if his fears were realised, hired Shao Jun, the Chinese Assassin as a bodyguard.
In the trailer for Embers we see him telling her; "...and I know that at any moment someone could come for me..."

There is also a shot in the trailer of Shao standing sentinel on the roof of what is presumably Ezio's home.

Also in this image, she seems to be adopting a similarly defensive stance on the borders of Ezio's land.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110901203602/assassinscreed/images/thumb/c/c8/Embers-Mysterious-Character.jpg/830px-Embers-Mysterious-Character.jpg

Do you agree?

eagleforlife1
09-04-2011, 12:41 PM
Apparently Piri Reis was executed under orders of Suleiman the Magnificent at around the age of 90. Maybe Suleiman's allegiance changed later in his life.

Also, a caption in the encyclopaedia mentions [spoilers]<span class="ev_code_WHITE">that in 1509, Ezio was reading Mario's letters and came across one that his father wrote and this is the reason for his pilgrimage to Masyaf</span>[spilers].

Perhaps from that we can assume that the game begins in 1509. Also, the teaser trailer in May showed us a date referring to the Istanbul Earthquake of 1509.

Ulicies
09-05-2011, 12:52 AM
Does anyone know if any concept art has been confirmed to be included in the book? I would buy it if they had some pages dedicated to that. ^_^