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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 09:24 PM
Some of my picks:

The Big Red One
Battle of the Bulge
Flying Leathernecks
Top Gun
The Boys in Company C

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 09:24 PM
Some of my picks:

The Big Red One
Battle of the Bulge
Flying Leathernecks
Top Gun
The Boys in Company C

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 09:27 PM
HAS to be Pearl Harbour... or is the the worst movie ever made period? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif





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10-27-2003, 09:27 PM
Gone with the wind

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 09:30 PM
Mosquito Squadron. Saw it on TV again a few weeks ago, it hadn't improved.
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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 09:48 PM
Rambo.

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 09:49 PM
They saved Hitler's brain

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 09:53 PM
Pearl Harbor gets my vote /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 09:55 PM
A movie called CASTLE KEEP from the late 60's. Truly awful.

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 09:56 PM
Gone with the Wind? Are you serious?

The worst-

Pearly Harbor
Battle of the Bulge





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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 09:57 PM
Oh man, Windtalkers by far.

I happen to know a Navajo Code Talker so I was exceedingly dissappointed. What a waste of a great movie topic.




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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 09:59 PM
Also, watching Pearl Harbor again is about as appealing as a turd in a swimming pool.

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 10:05 PM
"How I Wone The War"

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 10:09 PM
Iron Eagle I,II, and III

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 10:09 PM
hey,

The worst warmovie comes from holland and
i am from holland.

You have to know that movie and its bad !!!


A B R I D G E T O F A R

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 10:18 PM
hornetsting wrote:
- hey,
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- The worst warmovie comes from holland and
- i am from holland.
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- You have to know that movie and its bad !!!
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- A B R I D G E T O F A R
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What was so bad about it?

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 10:20 PM
Top Gun rules!!


Windtalkers is the biggest piece of crap ever produced by man kind.

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 10:24 PM
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Negative! Great film!

Are there dreadful historical inaccuracies?

I don't care - still a great film!

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 10:25 PM
Howdy

"Enemy at the Gates"

Although the book book the movie is "based" on
is really good.

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 10:27 PM
They save Hitler's brain....pee u....

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 10:35 PM
"The Thin Red Line" is by far the worst characterization of human behaviour in a war movie. ever. It rivals only "Thelma and Louise" in it's misrepresentation of 'our' half of the human species, lol.

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 10:44 PM
Lucky_Skunk wrote:
- Oh man, Windtalkers by far.
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- I happen to know a Navajo Code Talker so I was
- exceedingly dissappointed. What a waste of a great
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I agree. Windtalkers it is. Very cheesy movie.

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 10:46 PM
We where soldiers!!!

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 10:52 PM
Windtalkers, by far. The last time a film let me down this much was the Phantom Menace.horrible, terrible, crap! I dare anyone to pick one scene from that movie, just one, that isn't pure crap.

I've always enjoyed Nicolas Cage, and except for a couple of instances (Con Air) he tends to be in good movies (Raising Arizona, Adaptation), I wished that they had cast Steven Segall in Cage's role, at least then I'd have known what to expect.

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 11:09 PM
The Green Berets (1968)

Cast: John Wayne, Aldo Ray, Raymond St. Jacques, David Janssen, Jim Hutton

Director: John Wayne, Ray Kellogg

Synopsis:
One of the first American films specifically about the Vietnam War was also one of the most hawkish, offering a pro-intervention perspective at the height of the conflict...

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 11:11 PM
steve_v wrote:
- The Green Berets (1968)
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- Cast: John Wayne, Aldo Ray, Raymond St. Jacques,
- David Janssen, Jim Hutton
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- Director: John Wayne, Ray Kellogg
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- Synopsis:
- One of the first American films specifically about
- the Vietnam War was also one of the most hawkish,
- offering a pro-intervention perspective at the
- height of the conflict...
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Wasn't that the film where the sun set in the East in one scene? I know it in was one of John Wayne's.

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 11:11 PM
Con Air was really bad. He came off like a b movie actor when he couldn't even manage to keep his accent right half the time.

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 11:13 PM
U-571 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 11:13 PM
Also Green Berets had a bad reaserch department: they show sunset over South China Sea (or is that Gulf of Tonkin)

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 11:18 PM
The Thin Red Line was BRUTAL. Worst two hours of my life. The battle scene in Pearl Harbor wasent the worst, but the love theme and extra plot points were a complete waste of time.




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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 11:19 PM
The Thin Red Line was BRUTAL. Worst two hours of my life. The battle scene in Pearl Harbor wasent the worst, but the love theme and extra plot points were a complete waste of time.




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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 11:29 PM
Any movie which uses those annoying Buchons instead of 109s, with all the FX available today.

Shame...

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 11:37 PM
Memphis Belle!! Cool planes, but very cheezy dialogues!

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 11:45 PM
Bronco_Nagurski wrote:

- The Boys in Company C
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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 11:50 PM
Hristos wrote:
- Any movie which uses those annoying Buchons instead
- of 109s, with all the FX available today.
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- Shame...


Well...since they are technically realy 109's and there aren't exactly a whole lot of Gustavs or Emils flying right now, I don't mind them. But yeah I was really dissapointed by Windtalkers, every grenade makes a huge gasoline fed explosion! Oh yeah, and did anyone ever notice the F-4 Phantom in "Midway"? Funny (and sad) stuff!

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 12:33 AM
"Rambo" (all of them) is quite lousy. "Pearl Harbor" is not a good movie, but I'm not sure if it is even a war movie (more like a love drama). Personally I don't like "Apocalypse Now", because it's weird and unrelistic. "Rukaj¤rventie"(A Finnish movie, where they only ride with bicycles) is not the worst, but not good either.

Hey, now I know! It must be one those lousy indian war westerns which they made in the '50s. I hate how they make all indiands bad (which are acted by white actors who have dirt on they faces and silly wigs) and white people are good even they steal other people's land.

It would have been much harder to say which is the best war movie. There are many good ones like "Das Boot", "Battle of Britain" and "Gettysburg"(Yes, I like it even the audience did not - too long for cinemas?)

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 12:43 AM
U571 is right up there with the most lousy of them all.

Nic

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 12:59 AM
I would say Pearl Harbor, but it's not really a "war movie", so I can't. I don't think the directors ever intended it to be about anything but a love trio; all the explosions and cheesy narratives were just fillers.

Windtalkers was pretty bad. Bad, bad, bad. Decent acting even, but having learned a little about what the movie was about before going to see it, I was sorely dissapointed.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 01:01 AM
pearl harbor

I always knew I was going to get shot, I just never imagined it would happen at that particular moment...

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 01:24 AM
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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 01:38 AM
Trenchstalker. Dumb and numb.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:15 AM
The Green Berets

Wind Talker's

We Were Soldiers - (I had no idea that we had to fight so many Viet Cong in orchards outside of Fresno)

RE: Midway. That's no F-4. It's a Korean era Cougar. Similar to a P-80 with wing tanks.

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10-28-2003, 02:16 AM
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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:37 AM
Thin red line, Pearl harbor, NAVY SEALS, WIND TALKERS, HEARTSWAR, IRON EAGLES, HAMBURGER HILL, WHEN WE WERE SOLDIERS

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:44 AM
Bronco_Nagurski wrote:
- Some of my picks:
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- The Big Red One
- Battle of the Bulge
- Flying Leathernecks
- Top Gun
- The Boys in Company C
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lol, Rib Red One, BotB, and Boys in Company C are some of my favorites http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

My absolute most hated has to be the Sands of Iwo Jima.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:45 AM
"Oh man, Windtalkers by far. "

nail in the coffin right there. this movie is by far, the worst war movie ever. way worse than pearl harbor. i mean, nicolas cage mows down the japanese in comical fashion.

**6 japs run down a hill about 200 yds from him** ....nic cage pulls out his colt 45 pistol and kills every one of them with one shot right after another..bam bam bam bam! 5 dead guys. lol /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 03:21 AM
Oh yeah cant leave this one out

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 03:35 AM
Any war movie directed by a Liberal lol.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 03:42 AM
has to be Pearl Harbour or Windtalkers...

Worst movie of the lot discussed here (though not a war movie) has got to be Top Gun. Until Affleck makes another movie that is...

We Were Soldiers wasn't that bad...though it was a tad corny...bullets flying everywhere, bodies getting hit, and there's Mel walking around upright like he's invincible.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 03:44 AM
Hey Skulls LZ,

(Please tell me you were never an enlisted man in the Marine Corps

~20 yrs ago "the Boys" had a cult following in my barracks I guess ya had ta be there)


Interestingly, the only people I have met that hate The Boys in Company C more than me were all in the Marine Corps. Go figure. I wasn't in the Marines, but I know a crappy movie when I see one.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 03:51 AM
Absolutely ANY war movie with Audie Murphy in it.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 04:01 AM
you guys all got it wrong and are all FIRED. the worst war movie ever is THE PIANIST. it just came out 2 years ago. and pearl harbor was two movies. the love movie part was the worst but the planes in the air and the showing of the doolitle raid and having p40s shoot down jap planes at pearl and showing B.O.B. ....come on pearl had some great parts and some parts that were a rip off from TITANIC. and pearl had some seriously realistic stuff in it. they used coca cola bottles for blood containers in pearl....great realism in parts of the movie. i didnt like the thin red line either but it had some interesting trench battle scenes. one of the ALL time worst war movies after the pianist is the battle of britain...the old classic ....that movie drags on like a dachsund with no legs!!!.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 04:33 AM
The 6 o`clock news, far to realistic for my mind.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 04:40 AM
Clyde_N_Burns wrote:
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- We Were Soldiers - (I had no idea that we had to
- fight so many Viet Cong in orchards outside of
- Fresno)

LOL/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

They WERE experts of infiltration..

But I'd go with "Thin Red Line", like an attempt to make the most boring deep movies ever... And see the 105mm artillery firing? What a joke... buoncing 105's?

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 04:55 AM
In Other words...

The Worst Propaganda War Movies.

The Best most realistic Anti War Movies!

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 05:12 AM
What truly depresses me is that it seems like no one has read THE THIN RED LINE as a novel, truly one of the best novels I've ever read in my entire life! Yes, the movie was horribly disappointing compared to the book, but the action sequences were very close to how the book goes...though the book does have a slightly happier ending for the main character :P

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 05:27 AM
"...the love movie part was the worst but the planes in the air and the showing of the doolitle raid and having p40s shoot down jap planes at pearl and showing B.O.B."

entertaining maybe, but to some people, just plain wrong!

the two P-40s were not only of the wrong variant, but were piloted by the wrong people. Lts George Welch and Ken Taylor deserve credit for being the two P-40B Pilots who made it up on 7 Dec, along with some P-36 Hawks (but we didn't hear about them at all). and as far as the movie was concerned, Kaneohe Marine Corps Base wasn't even a factor in the battle. As for the Doolittle raid; I think they overgeneralized it too much for it to be horribly inaccurate. you only learn the fate of two planes, the other B-25s just dissappeared through a plot device. The Battle of Britain scenes were way to brief to allow for huge innacuracies. Affleck, never firing anything else besides his 20mm Hispaos and it made me laugh a bit since they could do soooo much with computers but not be able to change the squadron codes to match an actual Eagle Squadron, or edit the guided Missle Cruisers we have moored in Pearl Harbor to look more from 1940. The movie was no more about Pearl Harbor than Titanic was about the Titanic... both were just themes that made a love story seem more dramatic, which ruins the movie for war and history buffs like us.

from being born and raised in Hawaii, growing up with stories of Pearl Harbor from my grandparents, and hearing the views on the film by the real Pearl Harbor veterans who viewed it...

...Pearl Harbor gets a huge thumbs down from me.

Windtalkers was just... don't even wanna talk about it.

We Were Soldiers wasn't bad... as for the filming location, it looked pretty similar to the photos of LZ X-Ray in the Ia Drang valley from the book "We Were Soldiers Once and Young" by Hal Moore and Joseph Galloway. It had a whole bunch of inaccuracies. If you actually have Read the book you'd notice there was a lot of things that were simply wrong, same as Black Hawk Down. Yet I dont think We Were Soldiers deserves to be groupped with the likes of Windtalkers and Pearl Harbor.

my $0.02

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 06:17 AM
Pear Harbor - The "Battlestar Galactica" version of WWII AC combat. Gods and Generals is pretty awful. And yes, The Thin Red Line is a great book.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 06:20 AM
Gingus Khan staring John Wayne as Khan

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 06:26 AM
I dunno about films, but the first 5 minutes of Spielbergs "Taken" TV series were truly stomach churning. I mean, aside from the way the German fighters seemed to fireball at the mearest suggestion B-17's firing at them, the fact that the reasearch muppets had put Emil's in (1940 colours!) as opposed to 1943 Gustav's really baked my noodle /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 07:04 AM
Er... umm... I didn't see this one on the list and I am sure you don't want to leave it out... Michael J. Fox and Sean Penn in the puke fest "Casaulties of War"... be sure to butter your popcorn well so it doesn't get stuck coming back up. My dog could have written the script, but if she did I would get a cat.

Thin Red Line, great book, bad movie also with Penn, but at least he looked like he was attempting to act.

Which one of you minkeys dissed John Wayne for Sands of Iwo Jima? In an American Heritage article a few years ago they reported a survey of Marine recruits in the '40s ... large percentage said "Sands of Iwo Jima" was why they were joining up... LOL.

I think the question should be "greatest war movie" of all times... tough, very tough, that one.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 07:25 AM
Kind of puzzles me a bit why everyone knocks Pearl Harbor so much.

Not being someone who has to be terminally anal and check every minute detail going in a film, or being highly susceptible to cheesy lines and dialogue, I consider it to be one of the best 10's ive ever spent on a film?

Why?

Stick the missus in front of it , and you're guarenteed nigh on three hours of peace and quiet as she sits there gibbering and drooling over messr's Affleck and Hartnett.

Money well spent? I thing so /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 07:31 AM
Any John Wayne war movie...all were equally bad.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 09:47 AM
Hm. Well, "Pearl Harbour" (the new one - not the movie made in the late 60s) - that´s somehow like "Star Wars in P- 40s, against the Japanese instead of stormtroopers. This Movie is my No.1 as it´s a symptoma for the involution of arts/cinema in reactionary episodes of history.

Always among my "worst of"-favourites: Top Gun.No further comment.

And finally: "Mosquito Squad".That movie is really grotesque, I bought it on DVD the other week. Watching it, you never know whether they intended to make a war movie or a comedy. You got to be thick as a brick or stoned/whatever to stand it.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 09:55 AM
anyone who ever knocked top gun is anti american, possibly even communist

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10-28-2003, 09:55 AM
I thought stuart little was positively the worst war film ever.


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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 10:02 AM
my vote goes to "D-Day" ... watched it (bought the DVD ... unfortunately /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif ) and that piece of crap is the biggest piece of crap I ever saw! Talking about naming the movie D-day and yet the absolute whole movie is a stupid 40's-type love story... ABSOLUTE JUNK!

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10-28-2003, 10:12 AM
windtalkers ..oh boy..

Odd narrative, cliched character relationshpis, PINK BLOOD (yeah, pink!)..

Awful film.. The only part I enjoyed was when christian slater gets his head severed with a samurai sword.. take that!

"enigma" is another sh*te war film..

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 10:13 AM
Seems that PH earns a lot of respect here on this forum. My vote is on 'Delta Force' or maybe 'Commando'.

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10-28-2003, 10:29 AM
RedDeth wrote:
- anyone who ever knocked top gun is anti american,
- possibly even communist

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I like the "possibly even communist" part... you have to be an American! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

TopGun is a movie well made and I loved it and still love it but the truth is the movie is just a movie... fiction flying and typical hollywood/american "propaganda" /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 10:35 AM
Pearl Harbour is the worse movie ever!

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 10:37 AM
Hehe - today I just might do it: I'm gonna buy some candy & make some popcorn & sit down & watch 'Pearl Harbor' again. Just to see how bad it really is. Wish me luck. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 10:48 AM
I didn't think of the delta force movies. Yeah they suck very bad. And also Navy Seals. Talk about a POS.

Nic

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 10:55 AM
Alright, Delta force, Rambo, NAVY Seals and the like, as well as Top Gun don't even qualify as war movies. War movies usually attempt to undertake a reasonable realistic recreation of historical events.

Haven't read the book, but I thought Thin Red Line was pretty damn good. My vote for the worst movie would have to go to Enemy at the Gates.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 10:57 AM
Hum I think I've seen the thin red lines, and I saw nothing wrong in it. I think some people dislike it because some american soldiers are psychos in it or something?

Nic

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 11:24 AM
About Apocalypse Now, it may not look real, it may leave you uneasy, it may look frankly exagerated... But it very dam near what I saw in Serbia back in Milosevics days.
War is a place full of armed, often drunk gun happy bouffons. Laws and practices normal to civilisation do not apply, or exist. It stinks (the smell of a war zone is "special"), it´s very dangerous (in a radom fashion) for civilians... i did not see many dead soldiers, but civilians were rotting all over the place. Worst of all is the fact that everybody goes nuts and acts in the weirdest manners, hey you have power over life or death, so everything is for the taking be it a VCR or that pretty girl. Plus if you chose that the VCR is rotten because the movie was bad, shoot it,same with the girl.
Plus if you act crazy, people leave you alone and agree with you, just so you don't shoot them. So people get real crazy, nuts... It's like people leave their social persona home, and sublime their "real" them to extremes.

Pearl Harbor is an insult to the memory of the people who lived it.

Gigi

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 11:48 AM
- Plus if you act crazy, people leave you alone and
- agree with you, just so you don't shoot them. So
- people get real crazy, nuts... It's like people
- leave their social persona home, and sublime their
- "real" them to extremes.
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Kinda like people in this forum... LOL


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For me U571 has to be the worst POS I have ever seen. Pearl Harbour had a couple of minutes of redeeming qualities, but it was pretty bad as well.

Now I will tell you one thing, the series "Band of Brothers" is my vote for best all-around WWII presentation. Every part of it is wonderful. My favorite line in the series is when that young Lt was telling Captain Winters that things were getting rough in Bastogne, and they would be surrounded. Winters says, "Lieutenant, we are paratroopers, we're supposed to be surrounded."

The commentary before or after each hour scene was likewise wonderful. If any of you can watch the interview with Winters at the end of the series and not get a tear well up in your eye, then you dont have any appreciation for what these men, and men like then did for this world some 60 odd years ago.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 12:06 PM
First of all, I think "Thin Red Line" is great. But if you expect the usual heroic action stuff it's obviously not up your alley.

Anyway, the question was about worst films:

Battle of Britain - the dialogue and dramatology is bongus, and the film has been cut to pieces. I never thought my jaw could drop this far ...

Pearl Harbor - 'nuff said.

U-571 - a movie out of touch with reality that wants absolutely nothing, not even to entertain.

Oh, and I agree: Top Gun, Rambo etc. have absolutely nothing to do with war movies.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 12:35 PM
The Battle of Bataan /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 01:25 PM
I have nothing against men who love other man but Top Gun is a hardcore gay movie not a war movie. So the worst has to go to another. Indeed A Bridge To Far with the presspaper houses and that little Deventer bridge (not at all in Arnhem!) is number one.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:02 PM
Windtalkers was terrible. I lived on Saipan for 3 months. The southern California desert does not look like Saipan! Also, the Japanese was pretty poor.

I really hated Patton. Pure hero worship and M-60 tanks.

Gods and Generals may be very, very accurate, but it's boring to sit through.

I'm not sure of the name in English, but I suspect it's Battlefield. About the Battle of the Bulge with Henry Fonda. It's supposed to be in the Ardennes in Winter but the tank battles all take place in the desert for some reason.

There are some really, really bad Japanese movies about our invasion of Manchuria and China that are as insulting as any John Wayne movie is to the Indians.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:10 PM
I usually enjoy elements of most war movies, but this one was the 'pits' - "The Battle of Neretva" - 1969 - with Yul Bryner, Curt Jurgens, Orson Welles, Hardy Kruger.

Turgid predicatable plotline with stereotyped characters - not one interesting character to root for.

This is the only war movie I've partially fast-forwarded through - never usually do that, but this one was just too excruciating...

Otipher

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:15 PM
I forgot. There was a terrible, terrible WWI movie at the video store here called 'Distant Bridges." No only the worst war movie I have ever seen, quite possibly the worst movie I have ever seen period.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 04:27 PM
Come on now, the first Rambo film is actually pretty darn good.

But the worst war film ever HAS to be: Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 04:44 PM
PEARL HARBOUR...........BY A LONG, LONG WAY/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 05:03 PM
Any war movie with Elvis in it singing LOL.


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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 05:12 PM
In no specific order ..

pearl harbor, windtalkers, enemy at the gates

ramblo, nor top gun would qualify as a "war" movie

CC

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 05:20 PM
I think the subject is Worst War Movies, so the Top Gun/Rambo/Navy Seals he-man adolescent fantasy flicks can't really be said to qualify (they unquestionably suck, but they're not really about war).

Unfortunately, Pearl Harbor does on so many levels it's hard to list them all, from the ludicrousness of an active duty US Army Air Force officer serving in combat with the Royal Air Force 15 months before hostilities are declared to the insanity of P-40s out maneauvering Zeros at 0 feet to two green fighter pilots being picked over God only knows how many experienced & qualified bomber pilots to fly B-25s off a carrier to Alex Baldwin playing Jimmy Doolittle (somebody please dig up Spencer Tracy's corpse and walk it around the set instead). The love story was painfully predictable and hokey too. Kate's a lovely girl, but she didn't get naked, and that's the only thing that could have saved this stinker(although I wouldn't bet on it).

That's the modern champ, with all the advantages of technology and historical research. The early post WWII champ has to be "Fighter Pilot," which purports to be an account of fighter warfare over Europe with Americans flying bubbletop P-47s and the Germans flying P-51Ds. The group CO was both in the flying Tigers AND the Eagle Squadrons, the guncamera film shows a lot of Zeros and Japanese flying boats going up in flames over the ocean(oops, but the Navy used color film towards the end, while the Army stuck with mostly black and white...) while the battle rages over Berlin. It's the sort of film that requires a liquor intake of three or four shots per hour for anyone who knows anything about airplanes, much less air war.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 07:04 PM
Dolemite- wrote:
- Top Gun rules!!
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Did someone say topgun /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 07:09 PM
Pearl Harbor. Aegis class cruisers in a 1941 setting. Gag!


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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 08:56 PM
Basically all US produced war movies made after 1990 are terrible! The only war movie that has come out of Hollywood within this period worth mentioning would be Saving private Ryan which is a very strong movie.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 09:15 PM
I have to admit that the argument that "Top Gun" is not a war movie has some merit. I guess we're being liberal with our labeling here. I included it because it shows air-to-air combat against the "enemy" (the words "Russian" or "Soviet" are never used once in the movie!)

In truth, Top Gun can more accurately be described as gay porn. Any movie that shows sweaty shirtless guys playing beach volleyball in slow motion is without a doubt gay porn. And remember, the guy sitting behing Tom Cruise is nicknamed "Goose".

I'm not a homophobe, but I'd rather not spend my free time watching stuff like that.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 10:22 PM
Wasn´t his name "****", hoho ? Never tried this angle on that crappy movie - but there´s some truth in it :-).Also consider this: the babe (Kelly McGillis) is introduced as a more motherly character, isn´t she ?
Btw: is regarding "Top Gun" this way communist agitation ?

XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 05:11 AM
That would be "Windtalkers" for me. I think enough has been said about it in other posts. Totally disappointing/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Heard so many bad things about Pearl Harbor that I never even went to see it and glad of it. The wife got me U-571 for a present, and I still haven't watched it.

I don't know if they even qualify as war movies, but anything with Chuck Norris in them ie. Missing in Action films. They have got to be the ultimate stinkers.

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 05:27 AM
Dont diss Top Gun..............or else.

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 05:40 AM
Worst war movie ever made was Gods and Generals, The Thin Red Line runs a close second. I don't think it is possible to be worse than those two. Top Gun is lousy too, but it isn't technically a war movie. After all, there is no war in it, just one dinky 2 minute fight with some "Mig-28's" that look an aweful lot like American made F-5 Freedom Fighters /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif . BTW, Enemy at the Gates was pretty good in my oppinion. Right up at the top with Saving Pvt. Ryan.

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 06:48 AM
RE: horseback
OMG, ROFL

Great post, especially the bit about "Fighter Pilot" or whatever it was called. I had that on VHS years ago and even then could only laugh as the "Count Dracula" looking German flyers bounced the 47s in their own dark green 51s while babbling incoherently at each other.
Eesh. The Pacific guncam footage, nodnod. Haha.

Pwned.

Back to the post topic, my vote -must- be for: Cross of Iron
1977. James Coburn (I bet he regretted the role until the day he died), Maximillian Schell and James Mason.

I had this gem on DVD before ever watching it. It was trash. Nothing but homosexual German soldier relationships and laughable "battle" scenes. Were I the one to have laid this poop out for all to smell I wouldn't have put my name in the credits.

S!

XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 10:33 AM
I have to say that I have enjoyed many campy movies over time like "Hell is for Heroes", Where Eagles Dare", Kelly's Heroe's: , "Top Gun", I usually get some entertainment elements I enjoy or can learn a bit of history from, or as in Top Gun just watch notworthy aircraft flying footage.

The propaganda movies from the 40s and 50s are very hard to watch nowadays.


But by far the worst movie I have ever seen is "How I won the War" with John Lennon that I tried but could not sit through it was so stupid!

XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 11:37 AM
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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 11:56 AM
This is on UK TV again this week: 'Adolf Hitler - My Part In His Downfall' starring Jim Dale as Spike Milligan; nuff said. From a very funny book to an utterly crap film, and for all aviation buffs you might get to see that a He111 apparently has a Hurricane cockpit hood. More or less the only laugh in the film.
One of the worst films ever.

Re BoB film: the flying was good apart from the exploding model Stukas, but the acting and actors: the pilots were all too old! Michael Caine was 35 and the others about the same age. Cheesy.

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 12:51 PM
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Sorry, guys. "How I won the war" is one of the finest films on a neat psychic hybris packed in a personal war-trauma.

Can't see any ambitions to present a full grown war-event or historical drawing/documentary.

It's great fun, it's a grotesque. Light a fire and enjoy /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif . I had a good laugh watching it anyway...


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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 04:44 PM
'Thin red line' with that boooooring guy thinking about his girlfriend, is the most boooooring war movie I've ever seen. 'A bridge too far' was so confusing...

But the worst of all is a series of movies that is called "Steel Birds" or something like that. The worst is the third one: a group of warbirds pilots go fight a banana-dictator with their old P-38s and P-51s. They all carry MFDs and HUDs, and missiles so good to air targets as to ground ones. The effects are, /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif yuck! And the absurd dialogues and situations are really a laugh. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Not to talk about those of Chuck Norris rescueing brave boys in Vietnam. There are a bunch of them. Are not all the same one?

You can also see Spanish 'Spanish Civil War' movies, that aren't real war movies, but unbearable dramas. From the old Franquist propaganda 'how-good-is-Franco' movies to the newest politically correct 'how-bad-was-Franco' ones, they're all a crap.

Those about 'war-through-the-eyes-of-a-child' are specially disgusting. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 08:53 PM
Agree totally. Thin red line was a Vietnam protestors perception of what WWII must have been like. Unfortunately, it wasn't.

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 09:12 PM
this is realy the worst.

U-571 gets my vote.

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 09:15 PM
I think that if used properly Pearl Harbor is a great movie.

If I haven't been able to get a turn at the puter for awhile, I just say hmmm, anybody want to watch Pearl Harbor?

For the next 3 hours its all mine while my wife and daughters get all moist over Ben & Josh.

Then on a perfect evening, the Mrs subjects me to her fantasy build up!! Whoooo's yur Doolittle!!!

XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 09:20 PM
RedDeth wrote:
- anyone who ever knocked top gun is anti american,
- possibly even communist


Well said.

XyZspineZyX
10-30-2003, 01:58 AM
WORST WAR MOVIES...EVER:
"Peal Harbor"- not even a war movie
"Battleground"- $***
"The Boat"[Formerly Das Boot, but in English]- Funny, it's just fine in German, but make it English...yech!

BEST WAR MOVIES:
"Das Boot: The Directors Cut"- One of the best movies iv'e ever seen. See above if you have the copy in English...

"Battle of Britian"- Very good, a classic

"The Longest Day"- Also a classic, mostly correct, if we ignore the fact that the two 109's that were strafeing were really 190's.

The "Battle of the Bulge" and "A Bridge too Far" are...well..OK, not the best, but OK.

XyZspineZyX
10-30-2003, 03:17 AM
Hmmm...

To clear something up:

Some people listed "Rambo". Others objected, saying "the first Rambo movie was pretty good". Actually, the first "Rambo" movie was called "First Blood" (that's it, just First Blood) and it was a good movie. It was absolutely positively not a war movie. It was about a Vietnam vet who has a run-in with local cops in the US.

THEN, there's "Rambo: First Blood Part II", which I guess could be called a war movie, but that would be a stretch. That's the one where he goes back to Vietnam to rescue POWs.

In "Rambo III" he goes to Afghanistan to fight with Bin Laden.

XyZspineZyX
10-30-2003, 04:39 AM
A few things...

1) I'm surprised no one mentioned the use of modern aircraft carriers in Pearl Harbor. There was on aerial shot in particular (I can't remember if it was the Japanese fleet or the Hornet prior to the Doolittle raid), but it was a modern supercarrier, complete with visible catapults. You could also tell they were using a modern carrier when the B-25s were taking off too. Now, I'll give them some leeway for the close up shots of the B-25s taking off, but the aerial view could've EASILY been edited with CG.

2) Apocolypse Now really isn't a war movie, it's an adaptation of a book called Heart of Darkness by Joesph Conrad, a book that had nothing to do with war.

3) To whomever said the worst war movies ever made are made by liberal directors...are you forgetting about Saving Private Ryan, made by the very liberal Steven Spielburg?


Anyway, my vote goes with Pearl Harbor, with The Thin Red Line in a close second. Red Line has put me to sleep every time I've attempted to watch it, and Pearl Harbor was just a huge letdown. Having to wait an hour and a half for a battle scene that was more Top Gun than historical accuracy just ticked me off...not to mention how offensive it is for the makers of the film to disgrace all of the people who lost their lives there by trivializing the event into some two-bit Titanic rip-off.