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XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 01:46 PM
I know, it gets pretty difficult for the pilot (a lest in some planes) to bail at high speeds.
But in game, even jettisoning the canopy takes several seconds. A simple question: when I'm pressing my BAIL key (ctrl. + E) then I'm virtually pulling the canopy release, don't I ?
So the canopy should fly away just as I push the key.
Next thing to bail is getting out of the belts - takes you one (!) second in reality...people flying themselves in real live may support me.
Next procedure of bailing is simply to push the stick forward so that the a/c simply dives away from you.

Don't you think that this would be a nice feature (at least for the CAMPAIGN and COOP/ VOW guys) ?

A pilot that is not able to bail from the FW190 above 500kph is simply rediculous /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 01:46 PM
I know, it gets pretty difficult for the pilot (a lest in some planes) to bail at high speeds.
But in game, even jettisoning the canopy takes several seconds. A simple question: when I'm pressing my BAIL key (ctrl. + E) then I'm virtually pulling the canopy release, don't I ?
So the canopy should fly away just as I push the key.
Next thing to bail is getting out of the belts - takes you one (!) second in reality...people flying themselves in real live may support me.
Next procedure of bailing is simply to push the stick forward so that the a/c simply dives away from you.

Don't you think that this would be a nice feature (at least for the CAMPAIGN and COOP/ VOW guys) ?

A pilot that is not able to bail from the FW190 above 500kph is simply rediculous /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 03:13 PM
Thks for your help, I wil train to bail correctly all this W-E.

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XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 03:50 PM
sometimes, in earilier planes, the pilot had to literally push the canopy off!!

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 10:00 AM
Boosher-PBNA wrote:
- sometimes, in earilier planes, the pilot had to
- literally push the canopy off!!
-
- Boosher-PBNA
-


yea but i'd imagine as soon as you lift the canopy a little, the wind would grab it and take it off rather quickly.



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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 10:58 AM
hm...I don't know how long it would normally take for someone to exit the flying aircraft but certainly on the ground that should be pretty fast... in FB after pressing the Bail key it still takes 1-2 seconds till canopy opens... after that pilot does exit the aircraft rather quickly.

Sometimes when I fly and I want to exit the aircraft I keep pressing the Bail key (mapped to Cougar) it seems like eternity till the pilot bails!

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 11:25 AM
And it still takes just as long to bail from open cockpit planes as Rata and Chaika. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 03:12 PM
Probably more along the lines of

- Find the canopy release handle, in a smoke-filled cabin while trying to keep something resembling control of an aircraft intent on finding its own merry wobbling way across the sky

- Yank said handle

- Yank again, harder

- Wait for canopy to come off

- Push canopy away with hand

- Curse as canopy blows right back

- Release harness buckle (and remember to still control the aircraft)

- Untangle from four-point harness

- Untangle lap restraint from parachute and throttle lever

- Regain control of aircraft

- Stand in seat

- Get pinned to back of seat by slipstream

- Try to not worry about the dislocated shoulder for the moment. Focus on breathing in the slipstream.

- Try not to worry about failure to breathe for the moment. Focus on beginning spin and big, flat brownish-green object approaching.

Well, you see what I'm getting at. And after getting through all that, and perhaps even before impacting the ground, if you do get out you have a good chance of getting whacked by the tailplane or fin.

Those black and yellow handles aren't bad to have around!

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XyZspineZyX
08-23-2003, 03:33 PM
effte wrote:
- Probably more along the lines of
-
-- Find the canopy release handle, in a smoke-filled cabin while trying to keep something resembling control of an aircraft intent on finding its own merry wobbling way across the sky
-
-- Yank said handle
-
-- Yank again, harder
-
-- Wait for canopy to come off
-
-- Push canopy away with hand
-
-- Curse as canopy blows right back
-
-- Release harness buckle (and remember to still control the aircraft)
-
-- Untangle from four-point harness
-
-- Untangle lap restraint from parachute and throttle lever
-
-- Regain control of aircraft
-
-- Stand in seat
-
-- Get pinned to back of seat by slipstream
-
-- Try to not worry about the dislocated shoulder for the moment. Focus on breathing in the slipstream.
-
-- Try not to worry about failure to breathe for the moment. Focus on beginning spin and big, flat brownish-green object approaching.
-
- Well, you see what I'm getting at. And after getting
- through all that, and perhaps even before impacting
- the ground, if you do get out you have a good chance
- of getting whacked by the tailplane or fin.
-
- Those black and yellow handles aren't bad to have
- around!


LOL..I was referring to the Fw190:

In order to bail you gotta:

- jettison the canopy (press the red button at the right side of the pit => canopy gets off by an explosive charge..)
- untighten the belts
- kick against the stick
- pull the handle

That's it /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif I know it sounds easy in therory and is a bit different in reality but jettisoning the canopy alone's not supposed to take several seconds from your decision to bail...every pilot knows exactly where the canopy release is in the cockpit - finding it even with eyes shut /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
Same goes for the belt...

You know, getting out of your aircraft is propably the most trained thing on ground /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Those mooves are kinda automatic...

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