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xrvjorn
03-01-2005, 03:06 PM
I was flying online the other day, in a Corsair loaded with 4000 lbs of bombs, trying to sink a bunch of ships. As I approached my target, tracers started flying around me, so I dropped the bomb load in the sea and broke away. My surprise was total when I saw the "Enemy aircraft destroyed" message. Death by water cascade!

Odd events seemed to be the order of the day. Later, I flew a Stuka in an online night map. Diving on the target, releasing the bomb, and what happens? The message "Friendly aircraft destroyed" pops up!

So forget cannons and machine guns. Bombs are the weapons for air-to-air combat. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

xrvjorn
03-01-2005, 03:06 PM
I was flying online the other day, in a Corsair loaded with 4000 lbs of bombs, trying to sink a bunch of ships. As I approached my target, tracers started flying around me, so I dropped the bomb load in the sea and broke away. My surprise was total when I saw the "Enemy aircraft destroyed" message. Death by water cascade!

Odd events seemed to be the order of the day. Later, I flew a Stuka in an online night map. Diving on the target, releasing the bomb, and what happens? The message "Friendly aircraft destroyed" pops up!

So forget cannons and machine guns. Bombs are the weapons for air-to-air combat. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

VFA195-MaxPower
03-01-2005, 03:33 PM
lol that was probably me. I've tried to emulate that since but no dice. I've flown through all kinds of water cascades but I've only ever died from it when I wasn't trying to. I think perhaps it was the shockwave from the bomb, not the water that killed me.

Kapt_A
03-01-2005, 03:36 PM
Once i was diving down on a Kate and as i passed by after firing on it i leveled out and looked up to see damage.To my surprise i had to dodge a falling torpedo! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Shakthamac
03-01-2005, 03:43 PM
ive done this before against AI. once while doing a QMB i took a tb3 loaded with 4 250kg bombs plus whatever fit in the bomb bay, set the delay for 3 seconds, and fought against some hurri mk1s. Sometimes i could get the timing right and sometimes not, but of you dive to the deck they will follow, and if you drop your bombs at the right time the resulting explosion kills AI.

DIRTY-MAC
03-01-2005, 04:34 PM
you can divebomb at flying bombers in the air to

Capt.LoneRanger
03-01-2005, 05:03 PM
If I take bombs with me, I always set the timer between 1 and 3 sec, depending on aircraft speed. Once you got somebody on your six stupid enough to follow you, just drop the bombs and watch the show.

Crash_Moses
03-01-2005, 05:16 PM
I've had some limited success with the parachute bombs in the 'ol B25. It works best in a steep climb.

Slick750
03-01-2005, 05:50 PM
I love flying the stuka...I killed guys on my six with bombs...dive real low, fly tree top for a few seconds switch to gunner to make sure he's following...drop the bomb (2 sec fuse) enjoy!, continu to target if you still carry bombs or switch to gunner and aim for the canopy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Beta21
03-01-2005, 05:55 PM
The guy that flew the memphis belle (Bob Morgan I think) said at one stage they had stukas trying to drop bombs on them.


None of them hit though.

Tully__
03-02-2005, 06:07 AM
In the original IL2 Sturmovik days there was an informal competition to see how many bombers could be killed in a single pass over their formations while dropping PTabs http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Best I saw was four or five, I can't recall who did it though.

CKY_86
03-02-2005, 06:11 AM
i smell a new contest brewing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

WWSensei
03-02-2005, 08:16 AM
I once bored my opponent to death. We got into a climbing spiral. Neither able to really get the advantage on the other. Just a slowing climbing circle around, and around and around and around.

Suddenly, I noticed he nosed over and I turned to pursue but he was in a gentle dive I closed but began to think it was too easy. He had to be setting me up for a drag and bag. I'm checking 6, looking around for his calvary etc.

By the time I closed to within 500 meters he had crashed. He came on chat with a ROFL saying he had fallen asleep and augered in...

Hendley
03-02-2005, 10:13 AM
Playing online in Hurricane recently, I went nose-to-nose with a 109. He shot a quick burst and hit with one or two shots. He then passed about six inches above, and the next thing I see is an "Enemy Destroyed" message. No damage at my end, so there was no collision...

I've watched the track a couple of times but I still can't figure out how the kill happened. My best guess is the 109 got hit by debris from my plane, but the 109 DISINTEGRATED just after the pass. I mean, wings etc flew off and everything...

What a cheap victory... But with my shooting, I'll take 'em when I can get 'em http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Latico
03-02-2005, 11:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hendley:
Playing online in Hurricane recently, I went nose-to-nose with a 109. He shot a quick burst and hit with one or two shots. He then passed about six inches above, and the next think I see is an "Enemy Destroyed" message. No damage at my end, so there was no collision...

I've watched the track a couple of times but I still can't figure out how the kill happened. My best guess is the 109 got hit by debris from my plane, but the 109 DISINTEGRATED just after the pass. I mean, wings etc flew off and everything...

What a cheap victory... But with my shooting, I'll take 'em when I can get 'em http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did you happen to notice if you still had rudder control after he passed over you. It sounds like he must have colided with your vertical stabalizer.

I passed too close below a bombers wing once and sheared my stabalizer off and cut his wing off at the same time. I got the kill for bringing the bomber down and was able to return to base myself. Just didn't have any rudder controls.

When I fly the SBD on the Zeke vs Wildcatss I try to kill those guys that get on my six through frustration. LOL I make it as hard as I can for them to get a good shot at me. Sometimes it takes 2 or 3 of them to bring me down. When I'm not so lucky, I think they bring me down just by spitting at me.

Hendley
03-02-2005, 11:28 AM
latico...No, that's what's so strange. Plane and controls were completely intact...

I hear you with the SBD adventures, BTW... Just tonight me and my gunner got 2 Zero/Rufes and lived to tell about it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Usually it's "Aaaah! we're being shot at! Shoot him while I..."

Yimmy
03-02-2005, 11:33 AM
Hendely, at a guess I would say according to his machine he hit you, while according to your machine he didn't, due to a lag difference betwen the two.

avimimus
03-02-2005, 12:21 PM
I would like to see a competition for the maximum number of successive rammings.

I remember taking my mig into a flight of '88s and one of my wings striking the first one. The wing came off and the assymetric lift through me into a rapid spin. My second wing then struck the next bomber and took it out. With no wings the spinning stopped and I could bail safely.

The pilot has to survive though! Otherwise it would just be a bunch of tracks of people ramming a 5000kg bomb just after it was released from a PE-8 and taking out the whole squadron (I did this once btw.)

ElAurens
03-02-2005, 04:33 PM
In the original IL2 I was flying an IL2 over the Kuban online when a 109 tried a head on pass with me. I pulled the nose up and pickled off the VAP 250s I was armed with. Incinerated the poor sod.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

han freak solo
03-02-2005, 11:33 PM
Anyone been able to take a plane out with your prop? You know, grind its tail off. I've read it was done in WWI. I just can't pull it off in this game.

ClnlSandersLite
03-03-2005, 12:24 AM
Once, I was flying a lightning and I got hit by an arty shell in midair on a ground attack mission. He was firing at some shermans in the distance. I managed to limb back home. Too bad I don't still have the track...

HangerQueen
03-03-2005, 02:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hendley:
Playing online in Hurricane recently, I went nose-to-nose with a 109. He shot a quick burst and hit with one or two shots. He then passed about six inches above, and the next thing I see is an "Enemy Destroyed" message. No damage at my end, so there was no collision...

I've watched the track a couple of times but I still can't figure out how the kill happened. My best guess is the 109 got hit by debris from my plane, but the 109 DISINTEGRATED just after the pass. I mean, wings etc flew off and everything...

What a cheap victory... But with my shooting, I'll take 'em when I can get 'em http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I once tore the wing off a Bf 109 E with the vertical stabilizer of my I 16. No apparent damage to my plane. They may be small but they're tough!

ruf9ii
03-03-2005, 08:04 AM
i imagine u experienced a 'lag bug' where the guy who dies computer picks up the collision whereas the guy who doesnt die isnt affected at all. this happens all the time. not so often with engine to engine head ons, but usually with wing to wing hits.

thefruitbat
03-03-2005, 09:08 AM
A while back i was flying offline in the battle over europe addon, and had been mauled by b17 gunners, with my plane catching fire, so immediatly ejected.
imagine my joy as i watched my flaming pilotless plane neatly slice of the wing of the b17's that had been part of the group that had shot me dowm, that'll teach emhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

slighty off topic, many many times i have had the message enemy aircraft destroyed, and have not been able to recollect what i did..... I presume they must of crash landed after minimal damage from me, oh wellhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

p1ngu666
03-03-2005, 11:49 AM
once colided with a guy in p38, he knocked off my engine, he lost rudder... but he was in a flat spin

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Amnio
03-03-2005, 05:56 PM
Offline I managed to down 3 TB-3s in one short burst of machinegunfire (head on). The burst riddled the lead TB-3's pilot with holes, causing the plane to swerve off coarse and fly low above the remaining formation of planes while dropping parachutists into the engines and wings of its wingmates! This again caused 3 out of the 4 TB-3s in the formation to fall to the ground in rapid succession. I then looped around to engage the last TB-3 scoring a immediate pilotkill here as well.

I wish I could hint to pilotskill beeing the reason of the outcome, but I recon luck had a very large role in this engagement. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

WTE_Dukayn
03-03-2005, 06:40 PM
Had a guy strafe my pilot as he was hanging in his chute and didnt pull up in time. He flew straight throug the chute cables and severed his wing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hendley
03-03-2005, 11:56 PM
Speaking of kills from the dead, it's sometimes worth it to stick around after being pilot killed (ie. not hitting refly straight away).

The other night I was killed in one of the gunner positions in a He111, but switched to the side window to see what the trailing Tomohawks would do. They kept shooting and shooting as the bomber spiralled down, all the while getting closer and closer...until the inevitable happened, and one of them slowly nosed right into the side of the Heinkel.

Chalk up another one for Hendley http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ImpStarDuece
03-04-2005, 02:34 AM
I was messing around in Spitfire Vb in a dogfight server. I was just following around a Ki-84C, not shooting him just seeing if I could stay on his six. Along comes his mate on a high speed pass and closes up to about 5 meters before firing. Two 30mms hit my left tailplane and the silly sod was so close that he took the brunt of the explosions himself!

End result; blown off left rear tailplane for me, stopped prop and engine fire for the other Ki-81C. Best thing was that i somehow got credit for the kill and I hadn't fire a shot in the server! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

VBF-83_Hawk
03-04-2005, 09:21 AM
One thing I like to do when I see guys vulching is load my F4U down with three 2000lb bombs, sit and wait. Just as he starts shooting, release bombs and watch him go boom as he makes the low pass http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

BBB_Hyperion
03-05-2005, 01:38 PM
Well there was this small hill i was racing to in a a5 and a la5 was on my tail he tried to follow every move so i let him close in about lower than 0.3 he didnt shoot at that range cause of the roll moves and maybe to safe ammo or get a sure kill .I hold the plane level at full speed closing to the hill top. I pushed the plane down on the top of the hill to get full cover effect he pushed down too following every move but was looking only at my plane then some debris flow over the hill top .)

Platypus_1.JaVA
03-05-2005, 03:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by han freak solo:
Anyone been able to take a plane out with your prop? You know, grind its tail off. I've read it was done in WWI. I just can't pull it off in this game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yup, I did that once.

I was flying the I-16 type 24 in a QMB mission against 4 heinkels 111. This was the time that the I-16 just came out with one of the very first patches. I just wanted to try out the little fat fighter. I shot down one He-111 and made a fire in another when I ran out of ammo. So, I essentially had two healty He-111's left. "what the heck" i thought... Let's see how strong this fighter really is.

So, I slowed the time to 1/4 and closed in on the heinkels, veeeeeeeeery gently. I sawed both the Heinkels tails and got the kills for it. Jaw dropping I can tell ya.. My plane was damaged somewhat but, I managed to land safely. I was never able to do that kind of trick again unfortunatly.

The second most 'weird' kill must've been while in a Coop. It was a good old fashioned coop. 4XIl-2 on groundpounding mission, friendly fighters to escort us and enemy fighters to intercept us. So, we Il-2's take off (I was in the last aircraft) and we go on our merry way. As usual, I lag behind a bit (about 3 to 4 km) probably because I had choosen a heavier load-out. All other three Il-2's where flying more or less in a formation in front of me. Then I suddenly see tracers going trought the Il-2 formation. That was very odd because we just took off and no way the enemy could've reached us yet. BTW, I didn't see them coming. Quickly, I realize it are Russian tracers (the bright green ones) A genuine Team killer it was. He was able to kill one of his own Il-2's and damaging one other. This pissed me off very much!!! Team killers just give you that "I'm gonna rip your **** out anf stuff it up your ***" feeling. At least, that;s the way i felt. The second Il-2 realized what was hapening and quickly turned away, with the TKer in close pursuit. As I was lagging behind, I watched the whole scene. The pair now headed towards me. The damaged Il-2 tried to convince the TKer NOT to shoot at him. Without result of course. As they where in front of me, not passed yet, I turned and came almost directly in pursuit of the TKer at about 200m. He turned and yanked a bit but, a fully laden Il-2 is not very manouvrable. I managed to shoot him down.

We continued our flight, allready halved by one of our own. I still had my full load-out but, the other guy allready dropped it. We did inflict some damage to the target but, This TKer had really ruined the experience. We shouted at the TKer over the chat and he said one thing. Something like: "Sorry, I didn't know you where friendly" or some rotten excuse. Yeah right. He had been standing amongst us on the runway, flown in formation and got the "friendly aircraft destroyed" message and still didn't figure out he was shooting the wrong side. And because of him, I got also -400 points.

In his nickname, he had some spanish squad. So, I decided that if I ever was to encounter any member of that squad again, I would quit the server. Dogfight or Coop. I was quite angry over the whole incident and personally decided to sanction this particular squad. A few weeks later, a thread appeared on the UBI boards by one of the members of that particular squad, appologizing. He explained that there was some dude who took on nicknames of that squad and trying to kill aircraft from their own site. It was someone who delibratly tried to make this squad look bad towards the community. He wanted to destroy the squad. I felt sorry for them, it is very rotten if someone tries to ruin your gameplay with such childish methods.

StG77_Stuka
03-05-2005, 05:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Slick750:
I love flying the stuka...I killed guys on my six with bombs...dive real low, fly tree top for a few seconds switch to gunner to make sure he's following...drop the bomb (2 sec fuse) enjoy!, continu to target if you still carry bombs or switch to gunner and aim for the canopy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

aaaAAHHH Yes! a favorite of mine also (w/1.5 sec. fuse). http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Skycat_2
03-05-2005, 11:34 PM
In an online dogfight room, somebody got on my six and blew me apart with rockets. No guns or cannons, just rockets. I thought that was a pretty neat trick.

Offline, I got PK'd by a flak burst directly over my Hurricane's canopy. I was in a turn at the time, setting up a strafing run. The plane was fine -- the engine wasn't hit and visually there was no damage -- so I let the game run on external view to see what would happen. My plane went into a turning climb for a while, then leveled out and headed in the direction of my home base ... I exited the game after witnessing my plane pass directly over my parked squadmates and continue north ...

STRIDER_EB
03-06-2005, 08:05 AM
Sometimes knowing when to duck is all it takes. I was flying a P-51 in a 1v2 situation against another P-51 and an La-7. The La was trying to close on my six, and I found myself in a head-on pass with the P-51. I pushed the stick forward when I saw muzzle flash and watched the Mustang flash by me. I second later I saw two "xxxxx was killed" messages, followed by hysterical laughter on the comms. Their midair collision had been spectacular. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

han freak solo
03-06-2005, 09:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I was flying the I-16 type 24 in a QMB mission against 4 heinkels 111. This was the time that the I-16 just came out with one of the very first patches. I just wanted to try out the little fat fighter. I shot down one He-111 and made a fire in another when I ran out of ammo. So, I essentially had two healty He-111's left. "what the heck" i thought... Let's see how strong this fighter really is.

So, I slowed the time to 1/4 and closed in on the heinkels, veeeeeeeeery gently. I sawed both the Heinkels tails and got the kills for it. Jaw dropping I can tell ya.. My plane was damaged somewhat but, I managed to land safely. I was never able to do that kind of trick again unfortunatly. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I tried doing this with a P-63 a couple of nights back against an I-185?

Same procedure at 1/4 speed. I thought I might have a shot at it since the P-63 has such a huge prop and a skinny nose. I had a hard time at it, and I blew up. The I-185 flew happily along (he was a friendly).

I watched the track and my plane missed his by about a meter or so in any direction. But the P-63 was a fireball and the I-185 was unscathed.

Weird.

Unburied_Nat
03-06-2005, 05:57 PM
I once killed my wingman with my droptank. It was in EAW and I've learned to look before I drop now.

Nat

SabreF-86
03-07-2005, 03:14 AM
I ate the rudder and one stab and elevator off a Ju-52 one nite with a Hurricane prop when I ran out of ammo. He flew on straight n level for a bit then slowly went into a spiral, parachutists jumping as he went. I ended up doing a dead stick landing and survived. Prop, spinner and lower nose cowling a bit gashed up, and the radiator was messed up but the aircraft was recoverable. Amazing what you will do at 4am when you are bored and tired.

Sabre

avimimus
03-07-2005, 06:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by han freak solo:
Anyone been able to take a plane out with your prop? You know, grind its tail off. I've read it was done in WWI. I just can't pull it off in this game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I once saw screenshots here of someone using the prop (or nose cone) of a bf-109 to knock the 20mm out of the tail-gunner position on the Pe-8.

I recall reading a story about a russian officer being shown the p-39 and commenting that the wooden propeller would make the plane good for ramming. This shocked the tour-guide.

The I-16 was also notoriously good at this.

avimimus
03-07-2005, 06:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by thefruitbat:
slighty off topic, many many times i have had the message enemy aircraft destroyed, and have not been able to recollect what i did..... I presume they must of crash landed after minimal damage from me, oh wellhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I fly the Mig-3: Only one out of five of my kills will have visual damage.

It is quite common for planes to go down quietly, just be patient!

pettera
03-07-2005, 06:55 AM
Yes, I have done exactly this - I think. However, things happen fast and I didn't look at the track. I used a Rata a teared off a 109 tail. Is this possible in IL2 or did it just appear to happen like this. It was online.

Petter

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by han freak solo:
Anyone been able to take a plane out with your prop? You know, grind its tail off. I've read it was done in WWI. I just can't pull it off in this game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>