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Finkeren
02-09-2005, 10:02 AM
I just read a short article be the french writer Saint Exupéry about the end of the enormous airliner "Maxim Gorkij" wich crashed after a collision with a fighter aircraft.
Apparently this plane had a two-level cabin and an onboard restaurant and was the largest AC of the time. I think the article was dated 1936 or something.
Can someone deliver some information about this plane or post a link? It seems to have been really cool and ahead of its time.

Finkeren
02-09-2005, 10:02 AM
I just read a short article be the french writer Saint Exupéry about the end of the enormous airliner "Maxim Gorkij" wich crashed after a collision with a fighter aircraft.
Apparently this plane had a two-level cabin and an onboard restaurant and was the largest AC of the time. I think the article was dated 1936 or something.
Can someone deliver some information about this plane or post a link? It seems to have been really cool and ahead of its time.

Zyzbot
02-09-2005, 10:14 AM
Check out his link..scroll to the bottom of the page for photo:

http://members.aol.com/wwatrans/unique.htm

LEXX_Luthor
02-09-2005, 10:41 AM
cool, severely "retouched" photo but cool...like 1950s SciFi movie and passengers boarding spaceship.

http://www.russian.ee/~star/pictures/russia/ant-20.jpg
~ http://www.russian.ee/~star/air/russia/ant-20.html



Not as large, but far more interesting was Kalinin's K~7 bomber...article talks of piloting the thing. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/k-7-4-prev.jpg

Defenses of Kalinin's giant reached as much as 12 gunner positions (8 20mm cannons and 8 7.62mm machine guns). Special electric cart (running on strings inside of tailbooms) was designed for "transportation" of gunners to two tail machine guns. Aircraft had no "blind spots", and every direction was under fire at least from 3 gunners, what greatly increased reliability of defence.

~~&gt; http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/k7giant.html
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Going back to 1914 was Igor Sikorsky's huge Ilya Mourometz 4 engine bombers, looking like 1914 Biplane B~29s. With Russian revolution, Sikorsky decided to be be #1 helicopter designer in USA.

long story.... <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
The Beginnings of Air Power: Russia's Long Range Strategic Reconnaissance and Bomber Squadron 1914-1917
~~&gt; http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~agretch/Features/1stStrtgcBmbrSq.html
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sikorsky I.M. pics (includes passenger cabin interior)...click em make em larger
http://angela.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/im-original1-prev.jpg
~ http://angela.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/ilyamour.html

I found all these by using GOOGLE

Freycinet
02-09-2005, 04:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Finkeren:
I just read a short article be the french writer Saint Exupéry about the end of the enormous airliner "Maxim Gorkij" wich crashed after a collision with a fighter aircraft.
Apparently this plane had a two-level cabin and an onboard restaurant and was the largest AC of the time. I think the article was dated 1936 or something.
Can someone deliver some information about this plane or post a link? It seems to have been really cool and ahead of its time. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

where did you read about this? - online somewhere?

thx!

gerhardius
02-09-2005, 04:39 PM
Somebody modelled the ANT-20 for X-plane: scroll down for pics http://forums.x-plane.org/lofiversion/index.php/t10154.html
I have never played X-plane so I am making no claims about quality. The original ANT-20 crashed after a mid-air collision with a chase plane. One story states this happened as the chase plane came out of a loop and hit the wing of the ANT-20. There is a short piece about the ANT-20 here: http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1274.htm
more stuff on google.

Finkeren
02-10-2005, 03:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Freycinet:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Finkeren:
I just read a short article be the french writer Saint Exupéry about the end of the enormous airliner "Maxim Gorkij" wich crashed after a collision with a fighter aircraft.
Apparently this plane had a two-level cabin and an onboard restaurant and was the largest AC of the time. I think the article was dated 1936 or something.
Can someone deliver some information about this plane or post a link? It seems to have been really cool and ahead of its time. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

where did you read about this? - online somewhere?

thx! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope, it's in a book with a series of articles and short stories by A. de Saint Exupéry. I believe the Danish title was something like "planes in the night" but I haven't got the book with me and I honestly don't remember.
The article mentioned is out of a series he wrote during a trip to Moscow, where he was quite breathtaken by "Maxim Gorkij".
BTW Saint Exupéry is one of my favourite writers. Most people only know "The little prince" but he has written some of the best descriptions of flying and some quite interesting philosophical thoughts.
He lived and died as a pilot, being one of the early pioneers of air traffic, he was delivering mail all over south america in the 20s and 30s. He flew many recon missions during the french campaign in 1940 and continued to fly for the free french in North Africa untill he mysteriously disappeared over the Mediterrainian sea in 1944.
Truly a remarkable person!

Good reads (French titles):

Terre des Hommes

Le petit Prince

Pilot de Guerre

Freycinet
02-10-2005, 04:37 AM
Maybe it is the book called "Vol de nuit"?

I love A S-E too! - Especially Pilote de Guerre, it is a fantastic description of flying!

KarayaEine
02-10-2005, 09:11 AM
Maxim Gorky....the A380 of it's day http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Johann

Finkeren
02-10-2005, 11:26 AM
No question http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Exept that the Gorky was even cooler, it had thousands of bulps under the wings used to flash political paroles to people on the ground! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
It was a time where people really made an effort to fly in style

Bogun
02-10-2005, 12:09 PM
"...It was ... equipped with a powerful radio set called "Voice from the sky" (""олос с нµб?", golos s neba), printing machinery, radiostations, photographic laboratory, film projector with sound for showing movies in flight, library etc. For the first time in aviation history, this airplane was equipped with a ladder, which would fold itself and become a part of the floor. Also, for the first time in aviation history, the airplane used not only direct current, but alternating current of 120 Volts, as well. The airplane could be disassembled and transported by railroad if needed. The giant aircraft set a number of carrying capacity world records..."