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ARCHIE_CALVERT
01-17-2006, 01:45 PM
What dreams‚‚ā¨¬¶ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Enjoy‚‚ā¨¬¶ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/Hawker00.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SuperMarine00.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SuperMarine01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SuperMarine02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SuperMarine03.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SuperMarine04.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/SuperMarine05.jpg

Extracts taken from British Secret Projects, Fighters & Bombers 1935 ‚‚ā¨" 1950 By Tony Buttler.

danjama
01-17-2006, 01:47 PM
Oh my god i am drooling so bad right now. I think i love you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

ARCHIE_CALVERT
01-17-2006, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by danjama:
Oh my god i am drooling so bad right now. I think i love you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Steady now... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

JG52Karaya-X
01-17-2006, 02:04 PM
Sorry for drifting off to FW but what about these:

http://www.luft46.com/fw/3bf802.jpg
http://www.luft46.com/fw/fwjager1.gif
http://www.luft46.com/fw/fwjager2.gif

In August 1941, Dipl-Ing Mittelhuber did a study on the design and performance of single-seat fighters with powerplants still under development. This was based on their Fw 190 design, which was just entering service at that time. One such fighter project researched was the aircraft based on the Fw 190 airframe, but with the BMW 802 18-cylinder, twin-row radial engine with a three-speed, single stage supercharger. This engine had a 2600 HP take-off rating, and could deliver 1600 HP at an altitude of 12000 m (39000'). The engine was to be housed in a BMW designed low drag cowling driving a 3.8 m (12' 6") variable pitch propeller. An alternate engine arrangement which was considered but not included in this study was the BMW P.8011 engine. This powerplant had a 2800-2900 HP take off rating. It was basically a BMW 802 with two exhaust gas turbines enclosed in an aerodynamic cowling, and it drove two contrarotating propellers. A bomb load of 500 kg (1102 lbs) or two 300 liter (66 gallon) drop tanks could be carried, or an optional 50 kg (110 lbs) bomb under each wing. No armament was provided for at this design stage. This project was not realized, however, and Focke-Wulf went on to develop their Ta 152 high altitude fighters.

http://www.luft46.com/fw/fwbmw802.html

ARCHIE_CALVERT
01-17-2006, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by JG52Karaya-X:
Sorry for drifting off to FW

Thanks for that, but I rather we stuck to British Secret Projects... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Germanys have been done to death... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

stathem
01-17-2006, 02:16 PM
Thanks Archie http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Karaya, we hear about Luft '46 stuff all the time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

p1ngu666
01-17-2006, 03:21 PM
hm
germans copy the wingshape of the tiffy, and then make the fusealarge look *****like, and silly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

stathem
01-18-2006, 04:50 AM
bump.

I don't suppose you have anything on Barnes Wallis' proposed Victory bomber, Archie?

JG52Karaya-X
01-18-2006, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by p1ngu666:
hm
germans copy the wingshape of the tiffy, and then make the fusealarge look *****like, and silly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Was the Tiffy already fielded in '41? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Low_Flyer_MkII
01-18-2006, 11:26 AM
Was the Tiffy already fielded in '41?

Designed 1937. First flew 24th February 1940. I must confess I think Pingu was indulging in a bit of unwarranted 'Lufty-baiting'.

Aaron_GT
01-18-2006, 01:27 PM
Archie - how about scanning the drawing of the Bristol 152 or 153 (I forget which it is) and seeing which late war USN fighter it reminds people of http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Deedsundone
01-18-2006, 01:56 PM
That Gloster F18/37 looks almost like Saab J21.
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2000/02/stuff_eng_detail_j21.htm

KG26_Oranje
01-18-2006, 02:17 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/KG26Oranje/Dutch%20Aircrafts%201930%201950/D-23.jpg
Fokker D-23 Prototype.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/Redcoat1975/forum%20pics/Blom2020Voss20BV20141.jpg
Blom und Voss Bv141

Capt.England
01-18-2006, 02:52 PM
Is that a new book?

ARCHIE_CALVERT
01-18-2006, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by stathem:
bump.

I don't suppose you have anything on Barnes Wallis' proposed Victory bomber, Archie?

Yep... Theres a couple of pages I will scan and probably post tomorrow... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

ARCHIE_CALVERT
01-18-2006, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Capt.England:
Is that a new book?

2004... British Secret Projects, Fighters & Bombers 1935 - 1950 By Tony Buttler. ISBN 1 85780 179 2

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

ARCHIE_CALVERT
01-18-2006, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
Archie - how about scanning the drawing of the Bristol 152 or 153 (I forget which it is) and seeing which late war USN fighter it reminds people of http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I think you mean the Bristol Type 153 although there are in fact two designs to Spec F.37/35

Type 153 had a single Bristol Hercules Engine

Type 153A had two Bristol Aquila Engines...

Are you thinking of the former... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Capt.England
01-19-2006, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by ARCHIE_CALVERT:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Capt.England:
Is that a new book?

2004... British Secret Projects, Fighters & Bombers 1935 - 1950 By Tony Buttler. ISBN 1 85780 179 2

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just a quick bump...and thanks for the info. role on pay day again! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

SlickStick
01-19-2006, 02:57 PM
Great post! Thanks Archie. I shall certainly have to acquire that book.

OMG! Supermarine 391!

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/2328/homerdrooling7iz.jpg

VW-IceFire
01-19-2006, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by JG52Karaya-X:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p1ngu666:
hm
germans copy the wingshape of the tiffy, and then make the fusealarge look *****like, and silly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Was the Tiffy already fielded in '41? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
A single squadron equipped with Typhoons in 1941 as a operational evaluation type of squadron. Innumerable problems were encountered. As I recall, the very same week that this squadron was equipped with Typhoons the Luftwaffe equipped JG2 with FW190A's for the first time.

SlickStick
01-19-2006, 03:35 PM
IceFire, go here:

Tempest Skins 4 U (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/4071054993)

VW-IceFire
01-19-2006, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by SlickStick:
IceFire, go here:

Tempest Skins 4 U (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/4071054993)
I know...I was drooling over those earlier on SimHQ...SO NICE...I WANT!! I WANT! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Badsight.
01-19-2006, 07:43 PM
ARCHIE_CALVERT . . . . . thank you for the read

very cool : )

MrBlueSky1960
01-20-2006, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by Badsight.:
ARCHIE_CALVERT . . . . . thank you for the read

very cool : )

Thank you Badsight... He tries to be... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Aaron_GT
01-20-2006, 05:17 AM
Type 153 had a single Bristol Hercules Engine

Type 153A had two Bristol Aquila Engines...

Are you thinking of the former.

The former!