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Neo00_85
05-24-2011, 03:36 PM
Assassin's Creed: The Secret Crusade

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Plot:
Niccolo Polo, father of Marco, will finally reveal the story he has kept secret all his life - the story of Altair, one of the brotherhood's most extraordinary Assassins. Altair embarks on a formidable mission - one that takes him throughout the Holy Land and shows him the true meaning of the Assassin's Creed. To demonstrate his commitment, Altair must defeat nine deadly enemies, including Templar leader, Robert de Sable. Altair's life story is told here for the first time: a journey that will change the course of history; his ongoing battle with the Templar conspiracy; a family life that is as tragic as it is shocking; and, the ultimate betrayal of an old friend.


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ShaneO7K
05-24-2011, 03:39 PM
Sounds like it will basically be mostly AC1 and then cover the codex and handheld games and possibly the Revelations sequences. Other than those there is not much else you can mention apart from a more detailed look into his childhood.

xsatanicjokerx
05-24-2011, 03:46 PM
It sounds like its going to be a story within a story. But who will Niccolo (1252-1294) be telling the story to?

nekov4ego
05-24-2011, 04:06 PM
It's so sad I can't find ANY of the Assassin's Creed books in my country in English. Only translations http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

CRUDFACE
05-24-2011, 05:45 PM
IDK, the books never keep the stuff from the games or just do whatever they want to half the time...sometimes they're cool. It's just that the story aspect of the book is kinda of ruined for anybody who plays the games.

We know what's going to happen already.

nekov4ego
05-25-2011, 10:16 AM
Hey guys, I might have a friend get a book for me from abroad so as to be in English, but I want to ask something. Is this new book a sequel or something to the previous books? Can I start from this one?

masterfenix2009
05-25-2011, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by t260z:
IDK, the books never keep the stuff from the games or just do whatever they want to half the time...sometimes they're cool. It's just that the story aspect of the book is kinda of ruined for anybody who plays the games.

We know what's going to happen already.
What do you mean they don't keep the same stuff. The first assassins creed book was very accurate with only small details missing.

SevketErhat
05-26-2011, 06:09 AM
A must buy for me. I love reading

twenty_glyphs
06-02-2011, 11:43 PM
There's a new post on UbiWorkshop's site saying they will have an interview with Oliver Bowden soon. They say it will mostly be about the upcoming "The Secret Crusade." An interesting quote is: "I'm being told the book will reveal quite a few things on Alta´r."

http://www.ubiworkshop.com/post/?pid=1325

Sounds interesting to me. I hope the book is canon. If so, I will be picking it up. I wonder what is so shocking about Alta´r's family life (from the book description above). I wonder if it will have anything to do with the name "Son of None." In his codex, Alta´r was fascinated with the life of Jesus and similar figures. He mentioned their divine birthright. Really crazy theory: is it possible that Alta´r was conceived between his mom and a Piece of Eden? Perhaps Jesus was conceived the same way, perhaps by the Shroud, giving rise to the story of his divine birth. There is zero evidence for that, but I'm just throwing it out there...

phil.llllll
06-02-2011, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
Really crazy theory: is it possible that Alta´r was conceived between his mom and a Piece of Eden?

Oh god, if they make him Jesus, I'm done.

Really I can't say I'm at all excited about this book. The Brotherhood Novel was horrible (it actually managed to be worse than the game while fumbling up certain details and changing others) and I'd hate to see him ruin Alta´r.

wiccanlovely
06-03-2011, 01:42 AM
Maybe I'm a minority but I actually enjoyed the novelizations for the games. I own and have read both and I thought they were well done. Yes, there were a few details changed but I don't mind that. He had to retcon Rodrigo's death after the first book to make it match it in Brotherhood but at least he fixed that problem.

I dunno, maybe I have lower standards *shrug*

phil.llllll
06-03-2011, 02:00 AM
I may have exaggerated a bit when I said it was horrible, but still I don't think it was very well done.

It was just that there was so much different, and so much needless stuff added, that at times it was almost like I was reading about something else entirely (e.g. characters came off as completely different, some events made no sense at all, and some of the things he changed didn't fit well at all within the context of how it was presented in the game).

swiftkinfe
06-03-2011, 05:44 PM
I like to think of the books and games in the likes of Amazing spider-man and ultimate spider-man.

Amazing-The game we know and love

Ultimate-A present out of sync

Just saying I really enjoyed the first book but havent picked up Brotherhood(book)and might pass.I just like to think while the books can fill in some gaps.I like to think of them as diffrent realitys to the game.

thornebrook
06-03-2011, 06:48 PM
I definitely don't consider the books canon. And they need to get a better writer. Just MHO.

samward
06-04-2011, 07:59 AM
I am so excited for this book! I agree that the guy is not the best writer, but I love to find out all the missing story bits left out the game. Will be great way to fill some of the time before ACR comes out http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

twenty_glyphs
06-20-2011, 10:31 AM
There's an excerpt of this book on Penguin's website. It has the Prologue, Chapter 1 and all or part of Chapter 2.

Assassin's Creed: The Secret Crusade Excerpt (http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780441020997,00.html?sym=EXC)

I really hope the book is canon and that we get an answer on that soon. What I read has intrigued me about this story. Another interesting thing to note is that Penguin's website lists another book by Oliver Bowden titled "Assassin's Creed #4" coming out 11/29/2011. I'd guess this is probably the novelization of Revelations, but who knows.

Assassin's Creed #4 Book (http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9781937007423,00.html?Assassin%27s_Creed_%234_O liver_Bowden)

*** SPOILERS ***

Seems the book opens with Alta´r on a ship heading towards a great city in the West (perhaps Constantinople?). This could be him traveling back to the Holy Land after his exploits involving Genghis Khan.

It then moves on to show Niccol˛ and Maffeo Polo staying in Masyaf in June of 1257. They've been there for 6 months and Niccol˛ has been granted audiences with Alta´r on several occassions and feels that he is about to make a big announcement to him. Apparently Maffeo isn't as interested, but Niccol˛ starts to tell him the story of Alta´r's life.

The first part of the story weaves the real-life story of Saladin marching into the mountains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saladin#Campaign_against_Assassins) to assault the Assassins in August of 1176. Saladin was the commander of the Muslim forces opposing the Christian Crusaders during the Third Crusade and was mentioned but never seen in AC1. Rumor has it an Assassin snuck into his tent and left behind a dagger, showing he could have been killed. After this, he seems to have struck a truce with the Assassins.

Seems like Alta´r will let Niccol˛ and Maffeo Polo know about the Codex that was left behind in the East for whatever reason. Marco Polo, Niccol˛'s son, will eventually find the Codex in the palace of Genghis Khan and bring it back to Italy. Hopefully there will be more to Alta´r's announcement than that.

RzaRecta357
06-20-2011, 10:37 AM
I'm gonna assume it's canon and any scene we DIDN'T see in AC1 will be played through seals.

What makes me say this you ask?

I actually read the AC2 book written by Bowden. I think he gets the inside script before they make cuts for the game.

Ezio, in his book. Tells Christina he has to leave to find his father and brothers bodies and give them a proper send off.

He actually plays this scene out in a flashback of Brotherhood.

Everything from the book made it in.

twenty_glyphs
06-21-2011, 01:36 PM
I saw that someone tweeted to @AymarMtl (a production manager on Assassin's Creed) that they had gotten The Secret Crusade in the mail already. He said the following:


Honestly The Secret Crusade is my favorite #Assassin's Creed novel so far, and our team worked closely with the author http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
http://twitter.com/#!/AymarMtl...us/83195767409491970 (http://twitter.com/#!/AymarMtl/status/83195767409491970)

I asked him if it was canon and he said yes: http://twitter.com/#!/AymarMtl...us/83216153647923200 (http://twitter.com/#!/AymarMtl/status/83216153647923200)

I'm still curious why this hasn't been touted more, like on UbiWorkshop. So far the only official mention of it was one small article on UbiWorkshop a few weeks ago. We all found out about it because of the forum members here finding it listed on Amazon months ago. And it still has a completely wrong description of "young Erazo" on most sites it's listed on!

I really hope they don't give away all the seals from Revelations in this book. What would the point of that be? I want those to be cool story points that reveal things in the game that I look forward to finding. If we already know the story, that takes away a lot of that mystery and the payoff of finding each seal. I think Alta´r's life is long and interesting enough that this book will encompass another part of his mystery.

samward
06-22-2011, 02:54 PM
I pre-ordered the book yesterday.So excited to get it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I agree the books are way down played and under advertized. I wish this was not the case, because I think the books have a way of making the experience/ story even more deep for the gamer.

One of the things that I think that will make this book so great is that Oliver Bowden will have soooo much room to be creative and still stay true to the story. While AC1 had a very good story, it was much less in depth and much less personal then Ezio's story. I really liked reading the other 2 books cause it fills in some missing parts and gives some other insight to mission you don't get while playing the game. But because the story in AC2/ ACB was so in depth in the game, the book at times could be a bit boring and redundant. I am hoping because the storyline was not so in depth in AC1 that this will not happen as much and it will help us to connect more with Alta´r' in the same way we have to Ezio.

Dizlol
06-22-2011, 08:10 PM
Reminds me i still need to buy the books from Brotherhood!, this is also definitly on my buy list!

Fealty-Age
06-25-2011, 08:34 AM
Okay, this is a potential spoiler for the book, so do not read if you want to read it yourself, but I looked some things up on the Assassin's Creed Wiki.

You've been warned, those of you who don't want to have the story spoiled.

Here is my question: if Ubisoft is so excited about their recently upgraded Eagle Vision, why the heck can't Altair use that in the book to see that Abbas and Swami are two crooks that want to overthrow the Assassin's Order? Obviously, Altair has the ability to do so because not only can we use the ability in-game throughout the games, but in AC2, Giovanni tells Ezio to "use his talents" to find the secret room in his study (that's when he finds the Assassin's robes). Not only that, but Desmond can even use Eagle Vision at the end of AC1 and also in some parts of AC2 and AC:B.

Was Altair just too dumb to use it? I highly doubt that. So, why make him look like an idiot by making him seem so helpless? Sure, he's up in his years, but that doesn't mean he just stops being vigilant. Ubisoft... come on, now. That could have gone better. He could have seen the intentions of Abbas and Swami, and he could have saved his son, Malik, and Maria. Speaking of Maria...

She is my favorite character in the entire AC universe, and of course she dies. But killing her by having an insane Swami 'accidentally' slit her throat? First of all, I don't think someone as badass and tough as Maria deserves to die by some stupid knife. Second of all, she's been in the Crusades. She was a former Templar, for crying out loud! I think she has enough sense to think to herself, "Hm, there seems to be a man swinging a knife and killing himself. I should take a step back." But no, she's made out to be a ninny, which is WAY out of character for her.

Now, if the AC Wiki page is just a big lie, then this is just a pointless ramble. But if it's actually what happens, then I'm extremely disappointed. Whatever branch of Ubi was in charge of Altair's family history, the deaths of the characters were severely lame and they're out of character. And oh, jeez, Malik...

In AC1, Malik appears to be wise and open for new perspectives. He's even given charge of a Bureau, so obviously he knows how to run things properly. So, why the heck did Malik suddenly blunder and let Abbas get away with so much while Altair, Maria, and their son went to kill Genghis Khan? I think that Ubisoft was just trying to find a way to kill Malik, but in the process, they disregarded his personality and just chose to lop his head off.

I highly believe that Ubisoft made some major mistakes with the novel and that it shouldn't be in-game because of them. I'm not saying to let everyone live and be all happy and fluffy, but give them deaths that honor them.

eagleforlife1
06-25-2011, 09:21 AM
Every hero in every form of media dies honourable deaths. I want to see some of them die in an utterly humiliating way to show that they're human just like everybody else.

Artemis88
06-25-2011, 10:43 AM
A thread has already been made on the The Secret Crusade novel - http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1069024/m/9511037239 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/9511037239)

gazzagb
06-29-2011, 03:39 PM
So is the book just a novel of AC1? Or is it just based on Altair, and is totally separate to the AC1 storyline?
I really enjoyed Renaissance and Brotherhood, I thought they were brilliant in the way they told the story, even though I had already played both games.

twenty_glyphs
06-29-2011, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by gazzagb:
So is the book just a novel of AC1? Or is it just based on Altair, and is totally separate to the AC1 storyline?
I really enjoyed Renaissance and Brotherhood, I thought they were brilliant in the way they told the story, even though I had already played both games.

The book is basically the life story of Altair as he told it to Niccolo Polo near the end of his life. Most of the book is a novelization of AC1 and AC: Bloodlines. About 1/3 of the book is some fleshed out backstory of Altair's life before AC1 and telling what happened to Altair after the events of AC1 and Bloodlines. It also serves to set up Ezio's story in Revelations just a little bit. I enjoyed the book, and appreciate any extra information about the story, so it was worth it to me.

eagleforlife1
06-30-2011, 03:53 AM
Is it worth reading the parts on AC1 and Bloodlines because I've played them both and already know their story? Should I just read the parts that I don't know already about Altair's life?

Abeonis
06-30-2011, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
Is it worth reading the parts on AC1 and Bloodlines because I've played them both and already know their story? Should I just read the parts that I don't know already about Altair's life?

Yes, because not only do you learn more about Altair's thoughts and feelings during these events, something the games can't adequately put across, but the story is also mixed in with Niccolo's modern day story.

RzaRecta357
06-30-2011, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by Abeonis:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
Is it worth reading the parts on AC1 and Bloodlines because I've played them both and already know their story? Should I just read the parts that I don't know already about Altair's life?

Yes, because not only do you learn more about Altair's thoughts and feelings during these events, something the games can't adequately put across, but the story is also mixed in with Niccolo's modern day story. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



Yeah, AC2 book as example. Ezio decides to find his families coprses and send them out to the ocean and burn em right after they died and he learned how to stealth from the *****. They make sure to add this scene to ACB.

gazzagb
07-04-2011, 01:54 PM
Thanks for the replies guys, I bought the book the other day, should make for some good holiday reading! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Mad_Fox84
07-04-2011, 04:07 PM
Well I on the other hand never completed AC1 for some reason. Perhaps it was because of the repetative mission structure <shrug>. I watched the ending on youtube before I started AC2. I never played Bloodlines either.
Anyway I think this will be an interesting read for me, and will set me up for Revelations.

Do you think it is worth it to get Renaissance and Brotherhood too, having completed the games?