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Waldo.Pepper
11-25-2005, 02:04 AM
This is a serious question.

Really no kidding.

Here is the question.

When is the first time in history - that robot fought robot?

Will tell all on Monday if no one gets it by then.

Hydra444
11-25-2005, 02:18 AM
When did "Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots" come out?I think thats when http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

stathem
11-25-2005, 02:23 AM
just guessin,

Gulf War 1 - SAMs fired at UAV recce planes?

Waldo.Pepper
11-25-2005, 02:28 AM
No guys! C'mon! This is a WW2 forum.

The answer is a WW2 case.

stathem
11-25-2005, 02:38 AM
OK. Prox fused AAA shells vs V-1s?

neural_dream
11-25-2005, 02:49 AM
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1049/corbisutahbeachgoliath28hm.jpg

Feathered_IV
11-25-2005, 03:09 AM
GI with control box: "Whats this button do....?"


Click...


KABOOM!!!!

Low_Flyer_MkII
11-25-2005, 07:43 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif @ Feathered

And an intrigued bump.

neural_dream
11-25-2005, 08:01 AM
http://www.jeffbots.com/RobotTank.jpg
http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/demolitionvehicles/demoveh_fig1.jpg

Daiichidoku
11-25-2005, 11:51 AM
http://www.vectorsite.net/twcruz1.html

Owlsphone
11-25-2005, 12:49 PM
Neural, based on those pictures I'd say the robot tank didn't fare too well lol.

ploughman
11-25-2005, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
http://www.vectorsite.net/twcruz1.html

Well I never. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Thanks dude.

Waldo.Pepper
11-25-2005, 12:54 PM
The kettering bug, Goliath, V-1 are all robots in my opinion.

Robot: machine designed to do the work of a man.

However in no example so far put forth is there TWO robots fighting each other! Fighting each other is the essence of the question.

Someone so far is close! (real close but not quite close enough... but its close!_

stathem
11-25-2005, 01:04 PM
Hmm, is Radar predicted AAA classed as a Robot? I don't know enough about it... were the guns layed and fired automatically? or was the prediction just fed to human gunners?

(again, vs V1)

(btw, i think Proximity fused shells are a robot..they are a mechnical device..which reacts to a sensory input, even if they don't alter course)

Waldo.Pepper
11-25-2005, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by stathem:
Hmm, is Radar predicted AAA classed as a Robot? I don't know enough about it... were the guns layed and fired automatically? or was the prediction just fed to human gunners?

(again, vs V1)

(btw, i think Proximity fused shells are a robot..they are a mechnical device..which reacts to a sensory input, even if they don't alter course)

OK you got it...very impressed.

From: A RADAR History of World War Two. page 396

€œThe scores of the guns went up markedly as robot began shooting robot. The SCR-584 tracked automatically and its data were converted au*tomatically to gun orders by the M-9 director, and the American 90 mm and the fixed-mount British 3.7 inch guns followed these order automati*cally.€

The two robots that fought were the V1 and some (not all) of the Anti Aircraft guns defending London. Some of the Anti-Aircraft guns were in fact, robots.

I think that the VT fuze is so close that I very nearly have to give it to you for that alone, as these guns were firing shells with the VT fuze as well.

Anyway I thought that was cool.

Clan_Graham
11-25-2005, 01:17 PM
You need to define your definition of the term "robot."

Namely, because a type of "robot" was used as early as 1864 during the American Civil War.

LStarosta
11-25-2005, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by Clan_Graham:
You need to define your definition of the term "robot."

Namely, because a type of "robot" was used as early as 1864 during the American Civil War.

http://www.encirobot.com/5info/neye%5C12.jpg

Waldo.Pepper
11-25-2005, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Clan_Graham:
You need to define your definition of the term "robot."

Namely, because a type of "robot" was used as early as 1864 during the American Civil War.

US civil war!? Really got a source? I always thoughit was derived from a Czech term. This website seems to agree with my memory as well.

The acclaimed Czech playwright Karel Capek (1890-1938) made the first use of the word €˜robot€, from the Czech word for forced labor or serf. Capek was reportedly several times a candidate for the Nobel prize for his works and very influential and prolific as a writer and playwright.

The use of the word Robot was introduced into his play R.U.R. (Rossum's Universal Robots) which opened in Prague in January 1921.

http://www.robotics.utexas.edu/rrg/learn_more/history/

Seeing as how the war ended in what 1864, and the playwright was born in 1890 that may rule that out.

What item was used in the US Civil War that was robotic?

danjama
11-25-2005, 01:44 PM
TBH i dont think its that cool of a question http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

stathem
11-25-2005, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by danjama:
TBH i dont think its that cool of a question http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

No, it is, you probably don't work in industry.

Thanks Waldo, it had me tracking some interesting defintions...it's quite tricky to get a definitive definition of robot, it changes down the years.

I wonder if the ships attacked by the German glide bombs in '43 had Radar-predicted AA guns?

Waldo.Pepper
11-25-2005, 02:09 PM
had Radar-predicted AA guns?

I think yes, the shipboard guns certainly had gun laying RADAR. Whether the guns were actually slaved to the RADAR and physicaly pointed automaticaly like with the M9 director I don't know. Also were not the glide bombs flown onto the target by a human directing them via a joystick? If that is the case I think that the glide bomb does not qualify.

-HH-Dubbo
11-25-2005, 02:37 PM
I think it is a pretty **** cool trivia question. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

stathem
11-25-2005, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">had Radar-predicted AA guns?

I think yes, the shipboard guns certainly had gun laying RADAR. Whether the guns were actually slaved to the RADAR and physicaly pointed automaticaly like with the M9 director I don't know. Also were not the glide bombs flown onto the target by a human directing them via a joystick? If that is the case I think that the glide bomb does not qualify. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, I can see that.

So OK, how many more true robots can we name that were used in WW2?

I'll stick a couple in - homing torpedos, and the 'walking mines' used to attack the Tirpitz

There are quite a few more, including the ones already mentioned.

neural_dream
11-25-2005, 03:31 PM
Very cool trivia Waldo (http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif although the term robot was quite misleading http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif).
Now we want more.
more.

telsono
11-25-2005, 03:53 PM
There's an early scene in the Polish film "Kanal" that shows the "Goliaths" in action. Its the only one that I know of.

Daiichidoku
11-25-2005, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
http://www.vectorsite.net/twcruz1.html

Well I never. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Thanks dude. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

np

i was actually looking for stuff on the LARYNX, which i knew about, and learned about that biplane aerial torpedo, i had no idea

nice to learn new thingshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Waldo.Pepper
11-25-2005, 09:23 PM
I'll stick a couple in - homing torpedos, and the 'walking mines' used to attack the Tirpitz


Acostic torpedo's and mines definately.

I am almost embarassed to admit that I don't know anything (well much anyway) about the Johnnie Walker mine. Anyone?

Check out the Bat

http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/dsh/artifacts/RM-bat.htm

There are no robots here at this site but take a look at the TDR-1. I like that example.

http://www.tfcbooks.com/special/missiles.htm