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Chrystine
10-06-2005, 06:46 PM
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Hi all €"

I recently came across some rather remarkable images on-line and, after €˜playing around€ with a composite of sorts in P.S, we had the thought of sharing a few of them here as well €¦

Images of the Admiralstab für Großadmir¤le D¶nitz €" (Grossadmiral D¶nitz baton).
Having received this conspicuous mark of distinction put D¶nitz on the very short list of only six, I believe, to have ever received such.

http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/Dontiz_Baton_MasterImage.jpg

von Koester * 6 June, 1905
Prinz Heinrich von Preußen * 4 September, 1909
von Tirpitz * 27 January, 1911
von Holtzendorf * 31 July, 1918
Dr. h.c. Erich Raeder * 20 April, 1939
Karl D¶nitz * 30 January, 1943

..A beautiful piece of art as symbol of rank, prestige and power.

Here€s yet another found later from another collection, showing the baton€s of both D¶nitz and Raeder respectively (D¶nitz€s above, Raeder€s below).

http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/Donitz_Raeder_Batons_1b.jpg

If I understand correctly €" these batons now reside in some Army Regimental Museum in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England.
A fact I certainly never knew until reading it in some scribbled comments on the page where the above images were found (separately, and not in the above €˜composite€).

Here is likewise a quite handsome photo of Admiral Erich Raeder with his baton.

http://idealhorizons.intuity.net/Admiral_Erich_Raeder.jpg

Does anyone know of any similar sort of image showing D¶nitz with his baton?

Anyway, hope some who may never have seen these marvelous photos may enjoy seeing them.
We€ve been enjoying them, and thought it might be nice to share them here€¦

Best,
~ C.

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Gunnersman
10-06-2005, 07:02 PM
Wow. Impressive. I was not aware of this. Didn't Rommel have something similar to this as well?
Looks heavy.

And holds lots of pepper!
(would you like pepper with your angel hair pasta mein fuehrer?)
Sorry couldnt resist. Looks like a very opulent pepper shaker to me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

SilentSwine
10-06-2005, 07:05 PM
I see Raeder's is more ornate than Donitz's. I wonder if there's any signifigance in that, or just a different artist. Thanks for posting this!

SilentSwine
10-06-2005, 07:07 PM
Yes, here is Rommel's:


Baton (http://www.museumofworldwarii.com/Images2005/12RommelBatonlge.gif)

Chrystine
10-06-2005, 07:08 PM
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Hi Gunnersman,

As I recall Rommel did receive his baton upon his promotion to Field Marshal.
Probably a bit afterwards, as there seems to have been quite a €˜wait€ for the batons to actually be crafted.
I can€t remember the German term for the €˜proxy€ baton that was actually awarded in the ceremony €" someone like Celeon_, or Otto may know tho€€¦ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Best,
~ C.

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Chrystine
10-06-2005, 07:12 PM
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Cool €" nice pic, thank you for the link, SilentSwine!

I noticed that as well, regarding the somewhat more-elaborate ornamentation on Raeder€s baton €" but it may just be a first-impression.
Overall, there seems perhaps greater ornamental-elaboration on Donitz€s baton.
In the main, I would suspect it owes to the artists who produced them.
I would love to see the headpiece of Raeder€s as well.

Best,
~ C.

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Gunnersman
10-06-2005, 07:14 PM
Thanks Silent Swine,
I just found that pic too.
Boy, there really isnt a whole lot out there about the Batons.

zuluDROOG
10-06-2005, 11:51 PM
I wonder how much tonnage I have to sink before they give ME one of those? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Thanks for the pics Chrystine... they're certainly going into my personal archive... and will be called upon in Photoshop as the need arises. Hehehe...

The_Silent_O
10-07-2005, 07:00 AM
Next thing you'll know...You'll start seeing male models with these things on the catwalk...

There was something odd about Hitler's taste in Art and Architecture...everything seemed to be Neo-Classical leaning towards the Roman styles. Look at the designs of Albert Speer for Berlin as well as this stuff and you get the idea that Hitler wanted Roman Empire look.

I think it was a reaction to the new "bauhaus" and "blau Bruck" styles coming out of Germany at the time and old Adolf didn't like that stuff.