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XyZspineZyX
06-13-2003, 03:35 PM
This is not exactly IL2 nor WW2 related, but considering it has to do with flying, hopefully it won't get locked.

Anyway, after playing IL and FB for over a year now, I have been completely hooked by flying and everything to do with it.

So, I have decided to start flying in RL. Now the only problem there is, that I believe I would get bored pretty quickly flying lame Cessnas or similar slow planes. And until you can fly faster things a lot of money and time has been spent.

The solution seems to be, get rid of the motor alltogether and start gliding. As I live only a couple of kilometers away from the alps, it might be very rewarding. To train for the lowest glider licence I would have to spend roughly 3500 Euros, which seems fairly reasonable to me.

Are there any glider pilots in this forum? What are your thoughts? Is the price right? Any comments are welcome.

Thanks in advance.



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XyZspineZyX
06-13-2003, 03:35 PM
This is not exactly IL2 nor WW2 related, but considering it has to do with flying, hopefully it won't get locked.

Anyway, after playing IL and FB for over a year now, I have been completely hooked by flying and everything to do with it.

So, I have decided to start flying in RL. Now the only problem there is, that I believe I would get bored pretty quickly flying lame Cessnas or similar slow planes. And until you can fly faster things a lot of money and time has been spent.

The solution seems to be, get rid of the motor alltogether and start gliding. As I live only a couple of kilometers away from the alps, it might be very rewarding. To train for the lowest glider licence I would have to spend roughly 3500 Euros, which seems fairly reasonable to me.

Are there any glider pilots in this forum? What are your thoughts? Is the price right? Any comments are welcome.

Thanks in advance.



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XyZspineZyX
06-13-2003, 04:17 PM
Go for it!

I think the cost is reasonable.

And when you completed dat course, go for Private Pilot Licence!



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XyZspineZyX
06-13-2003, 04:28 PM
indeed, if you have the chance, go man... it's quite an experience...

and yes, the price seem right...

XyZspineZyX
06-13-2003, 04:33 PM
Remember to map your trim onto a glider./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

OK, seriously a lot, if not all, of the Luftwaffe's fighter pilots started out training as glider pilots in the 1920s - 1930's because the Treaty of Versailles at the end of WW1 forbade Germany from having an airforce.

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XyZspineZyX
06-13-2003, 04:38 PM
Go for it, if you can spare that money.

I have both glider and ppl and they are really different experiences. I prefer soaring- one really feels far more "at peace" (I don't know how else to put it) in a glider than in a cessna where there's noise and vibration etc...

Cheers
CG

XyZspineZyX
06-13-2003, 04:46 PM
Cold_Gambler wrote:
- I have both glider and ppl and they are really
- different experiences. I prefer soaring- one really
- feels far more "at peace" (I don't know how else to
- put it) in a glider than in a cessna where there's
- noise and vibration etc...

Yes, that is exactly what I would have thought so too, but I have only ever flown in a cessna, so hard to compare. Anyway, I have just registred for a test glider flight next week.

lol@commie1: you must have jumped up and down for the joy of being able to deliever this gag.



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XyZspineZyX
06-13-2003, 05:05 PM
cool ... Yes

It´s the best way to proof what flying is about. You´re free of any instruments. You´re just flying. Just keep height and speed. Most crashes happened because oflow speed in low altitude in 3th or 4th turn to finnal approach. I could even recommend acrobatic flying on glider. Just to fly above clouds it´s beyond our reach ( If You don´t have some additional power on your plane).

Good luck!

Steph

XyZspineZyX
06-13-2003, 05:09 PM
Gliding is a lot more fun than power flying.

1)When you learn to fly power planes you turn up 5 minutes before your lesson and go home after. When you glide you spend the day working alongside everyone else and make lots of friends.

2) When you turn a Cessna you turn a wheel and eventually you get to bank it over as far as 10 degrees and probably never use the rudder. When you turn a glider you push the stick over with finger and thumb and instantly you are heeling round at 60 degrees balancing the turn with your rudder.

3) Landing in a Cessna involves lining up from a long way out and making a gentle descent. Landing a glider involves aiming at the threshold from 500ft, diving in at 45 degrees and pulling out at the last moment http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

4) Flying in a Cessna means constant noise. In a glider all you hear is the gentle hiss of the wind.

5) Flying around in a Cessna for an hour is boring. Staying aloft for an hour by your skill in hunting out thermals or ridge lift is immensely satisfying.





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XyZspineZyX
06-13-2003, 05:40 PM
yes i could defiantley see where a glider would be funner than a cessna but a T-28 thats another story

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XyZspineZyX
06-16-2003, 01:12 PM
I used to fly gliders (more than 250 flights) and still hold a license for it, BUT I don´t think I will ever fly them again!!! Don´t get me wrong. I enjoyed flying gliders, but last year I discovered paragliding and since then I´ve forgotten all about gliders. Paragliding just has the biggest fun-factor. You feel the flying with your whole body and it´s just sensationel. In a paraglider you are flying - not just sitting in a plane that is flying.

And don´t forget that it will take you a long time before you get to solo and even more time (and money) before you get your license. And you probably have to rent your gliders for many years before you can afford your own plane.

When paragliding you usually solo the first day and get your license after about 20 flights. You can buy used paragliders for as little as 500 Euro.

I have been flying for a year now and started out hanggliding on the coastalridges. And this spring I was flying in the italian alps thermaling in 2000 meters altitude. In less than a year!!!

So do me a favour. Try the glider and then try the paraglider. And then make your choice.

Good luck and "Hals und Beinbruch" ;-)

Ghia

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XyZspineZyX
06-16-2003, 02:07 PM
Go for gliding and you will never regret it! It will give your life a completely new dimension!

I mean, if you live in the alps, it's almost a crime not to start flying anyway /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I once heard an old airforce pilot say that he preferred gliders before jets. In an F16 he could only fly short 20 min. hops, always busy with in-cockpit tasks, never having the time to enjoy the flying. In a glider he could relax and enjoy.

Some years ago I was on a special sightseeing flight (as a passenger) with a DC-9 over the Spitzbergen islands in the Barents sea. We were allowed to fly as low as 2-3000ft between the mountains, and the very excited pilot said that this was the best flying experience he had ever had! Never ever before in his 15 years of flying was he able to fly so low between the mountains and really enjoy the scenery. I had to think: what a boring job /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif I've seen much better scenery flying 50ft by a mountain ridge, over a mountain top, under big cumulus'es, almost beeing sucked in or high up between the lentic's, I've flown in formation with Canadian Geese, and been attacked by an eagle /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

You'll see scenery only a priviliged few can see and enjoy.

It's another world...

XyZspineZyX
06-16-2003, 02:38 PM
I'd say: Go for it! I flew glider back when I was 15-18 years old, now, here in Greenland, I fly Piper, but glider is a lot more joyable, it's not allowed in Greenland though..

XyZspineZyX
06-17-2003, 06:33 PM
I forgot one enjoyable aspect of gliding. I don't know about where you are but in Britain most gliding clubs run on a very small budget with everyone helping out when they are not actually flying.
This means I am now fully qualified in racing tractors & quad bikes as well as hanging on to the back desperately as someone else races the tractor down the field to pick up the cable or retrieve a glider. One of the duties in my last gliding club was rounding up the sheep before flying started and in another I got to drive a road roller when they extended the runway http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-20-2003, 05:15 PM
thanks for all the great replies, guys.

i still hope to get a chance for a test flight in the next two weeks.


Ghia wrote:
.... paragliding ....

yeah i know where u are coming from. i see a lot of paragliders in winter when i go skiing. i might take a tandem flight next time.
only, it looks so bloody cold up there at 2500m on a crisp winters day.



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