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XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 09:42 PM
In WWII, were they able to hammer the stick around while applying opposite rudder, then shoving it foward & spining around, then rakeing it back & then shoveing it foward to the left or right while applying opposite Rudder then ripping it baxkward to the right & then making gyrating movments all over the place ?


Some how I dont think so.......

Whats yer Opinion ?


I see more and more people doing this, in attempt to evade gunfire the problem is 50% of the time its effective & during these ***COUGH*** Manuvers they dont bleed speed or pay any penalty for abusing the stick???

That seems very unrealistic.

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XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 09:42 PM
In WWII, were they able to hammer the stick around while applying opposite rudder, then shoving it foward & spining around, then rakeing it back & then shoveing it foward to the left or right while applying opposite Rudder then ripping it baxkward to the right & then making gyrating movments all over the place ?


Some how I dont think so.......

Whats yer Opinion ?


I see more and more people doing this, in attempt to evade gunfire the problem is 50% of the time its effective & during these ***COUGH*** Manuvers they dont bleed speed or pay any penalty for abusing the stick???

That seems very unrealistic.

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XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 09:47 PM
Yes they do this, and even AI does this (in Il2), the response is, get close and fire into them - those frantic movements present the whole AC as a widest possible target for a moment, you know, tail goes one side, nose another one, and no deflection needed.

XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 09:51 PM
In IL-2 these things used to bleed a lot of speed. Back then you actually had to think about energy.

After a long fight you would often find yourself at ground level, unable to do hard turns or barrel rolls for lack of speed.

In FB the devs were kind enough to remove such annoying features as "AOA" and "drag". No more slowing down in a turn, no more stalling in a barrel roll. I'm elated that my FW-190A8 can do a loop at 230km/h.





Message Edited on 10/23/0302:53PM by StG77_Fennec

XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 09:52 PM
if they want to puke all over the cockpit and perhaps stall and die, yes.
dont compare flightsims with RL, do you start your enine by pressing some I-button in a real plane? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-24-2003, 01:46 AM
DeBaer.534 wrote:
- if they want to puke all over the cockpit and
- perhaps stall and die, yes.
- dont compare flightsims with RL, do you start your
- enine by pressing some I-button in a real plane?


Baer In Il2 these Stunts were not possible if you did thoes that I spoke of earlier you would bleed much speed anotherwords there was a penalty to pay for idiot manuvers.

But now theres nothing... you can do cartwheels if you want no problem no e bleed nothing.....
Just insane non realistic manuvering....

Its sad..

Dont get me wrong tho not everyone flys like that with thoes jackarse manuveres but many are now & they said there Good LOL

O well



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Message Edited on 10/24/0310:50PM by AFJ_Locust

XyZspineZyX
10-24-2003, 08:39 AM
Is it another reason to stick to il-2 rather than throwing another 50 Euro for FB?

Zayets
10-24-2003, 08:43 AM
If you plan to use such maneuvers take care on your stick calibration. I have mine calibrated for the jug (no joke here) tried to stall a Yak 3 and couldn't do it!!!Then re calibrated for the Yak , my Jug was stalling at the first bank!!! I'm telling you!

Zayets out

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XyZspineZyX
10-24-2003, 11:00 AM
When you get injured, your ability to control the aircraft becomes impaired. Excessive stick action mentioned above should cause a temporary impairment. Either that or coating the cockpit interior with your lunch...



R_R


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XyZspineZyX
10-25-2003, 04:54 AM
rawheid_rex wrote:
Excessive stick action
- mentioned above should cause a temporary impairment.
- Either that or coating the cockpit interior with
- your lunch...


Well just replacing the E-bleed would be great when an ac makes its self non-aerodynamic as many do with these non realistic manuverings then they should bleed lots of speed real fast.




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