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Haigotron
03-22-2006, 09:22 PM
Im curious to see what most of our community is in terms of educational background. Is it true most of us have an aviation background?

well, to start it off, i have a background in microbiology and immunology http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Snow_Wolf_
03-22-2006, 09:44 PM
I be the second person to post then

I study during school aerospace/aeronautical got honors on graduated with Honors out of the 40 that left think there 2 High Honors and 5 honors including me ... The went to get my pilot licence, and right now i am taking Aviation Management

you can say i am jack of all trades in avation

LEBillfish
03-22-2006, 09:50 PM
4 years of sporadic grammer school in a very rural mountain community (grades 1-4) of which perhaps only 30% of that was attended and while there not made to learn (left alone)......Then the education my husband began giving me 10 years ago at roughly 31 years of age finally able to read and write 9 years ago, now being 41.

AKA_TAGERT
03-22-2006, 10:00 PM
educawhat?

Arms1
03-22-2006, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Haigotron:
Im curious to see what most of our community is in terms of educational background. Is it true most of us have an aviation background?

well, to start it off, i have a background in microbiology and immunology http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Wow!, I teach immunology @ McMaster

Waldo.Pepper
03-22-2006, 10:36 PM
I have a degree in Political Studies - Conflict Resolution. Imagine that.

SeaFireLIV
03-22-2006, 10:37 PM
Well, this has gotta be the nosiest question yet on the forum.

My qualifications:

Beer drinker.
Cardboard box sleeper.
Wanderer.
Justicemaker.
Karate 5th dan.

Good enough?

slo_1_2_3
03-22-2006, 10:38 PM
I'm a softmore in highschool. But I plan to take some kinda career in aviation, I still don't know what tho.
Got any ideas?

pourshot
03-22-2006, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
4 years of sporadic grammer school in a very rural mountain community (grades 1-4) of which perhaps only 30% of that was attended and while there not made to learn (left alone)......Then the education my husband began giving me 10 years ago at roughly 31 years of age finally able to read and write 9 years ago, now being 41.

You and I are not that differant http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

I left high school after 4 years(hardly opened a book but topped the state in metal working) and went to work, and have been on the tools ever since. I make a good living but cant help thinking things would be differant if I had the right help in school.

Snow_Wolf_
03-22-2006, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by slo_1_2_3:
I'm a softmore in highschool. But I plan to take some kinda career in aviation, I still don't know what tho.
Got any ideas?

well it depends on what your want to go into.. for instance if you like to stay on the ground then you might want to go engineering, maintenance, airport management, air traffic controller, etc.

If you want to be what we call Fly Boys then you might want to start saving and get your radio licences, and student pilot permits, medicals early.. But one thing about flying is it very expensive... Some company do offer training for flight crew but it very hard to get in such as the Cathay Pacific Cadet pilot program (you must be a Hong Kong citizen to get in) but you will need secondary education and onwards, thing with that program is once you get in and pass it you come out being a second officer with Cathay Pacific.

The avation field is nice to be in but getting started is really hard unless you know a few people and can pull a few strings.. (especially if you want to go fly)

that my 2 cents on it

LEBillfish
03-22-2006, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by pourshot:
I left high school after 4 years(hardly opened a book but topped the state in metal working)

Think you might have misunderstood, my age in formal schooling was 6-9 years old, and then because of my situation was simply allowed to sit in a corner, or wander around the school yard.....So essentially till my husband had none, in fact I never really was able to even spend time watching a TV till my mid 20's.....So the word "Ignoramous" would be generous.

Friendly_flyer
03-22-2006, 11:32 PM
I'm a zoologist, work in the local Natural History museum, I probably could not take the stick of an aeroplane if my life depended on it.

LEBillfish, I'm very impressed with you learning to read and write at more that 30 years of age. That is a very hard thing to accomplish, especially if one has little other schooling.

MadRuski
03-22-2006, 11:34 PM
iam a carpenter for 10 years

msalama
03-22-2006, 11:50 PM
Me? An all-around weirdo, crackpot, stevedore, dishwasher, musician, recording engineer, BSEng. dropout, IT administrator, coder and a software designer. Oh and an occasional layabout and virtual Sturmovik pilot too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

As regards things musical(?), this (http://www.dubflash.com/dfr/releases/dfr003.html) is the last record I've been involved with. I co-engineered, co-produced, co-MIDI-programmed and played some guitar on the Uptown Selector side...

wayno7777
03-22-2006, 11:54 PM
High school and a certificate in data processing from vo-tech. In '76 the IBM 1130 was bigger than a piano and we made it run using punch cards. Went to 67November school in the Army. Hueys. Also was certified on army generators, a 3 card government drivers license, The Us Army Maintenance Management course and a US Army projectionist....

rnzoli
03-23-2006, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
I have a degree in Political Studies - Conflict Resolution. Imagine that.
LOL Waldo, I can imagine, so.... that's why you fly IL2 and shoot the hell out of everyone else! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Megile_
03-23-2006, 12:54 AM
BSc in E-Business http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The-Pizza-Man
03-23-2006, 01:00 AM
I'm doing a BE with a double major in mech and space(aka aerospace). I'm at one of the leading unis for hypersonics.

fighter_966
03-23-2006, 01:11 AM
Laboratory assistant

fighter_966
03-23-2006, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by fighter_966:
Laboratory assistant and virtual ace of Sturmovik.. kill count in DiD 176 and alive!!?

pourshot
03-23-2006, 01:20 AM
So the word "Ignoramous" would be generous.


LEBillfish my friend not having an education and being ignorant are not the same thing, I have meet some well-educated idiots in my time. And before high school our education was the same if it was legal for me to have dropped out before I was 16 I would have.

I used to feel bad about myself but not anymore I pulled myself up and consider myself a success.

Jatro13th
03-23-2006, 01:25 AM
Finished High School in Greece, went to Optician school in Athens, but mid-way I got the opportunity to study dentistry in Manchester. Left Optician school and now I'm a fifth year in Manchester Dental School.

Can read speak and write Greek (native), English (fluently), French (its been a long time), German (almost forgotten them), Italian (basic communication).

I can play the piano quite well, but never got to get the Higher Diploma since I got involved with the University examinations at school.

As far as aviation is concerned, my experience is very limited, since I've only taken a couple of 'lessons' in a sailplane at Burn Gliding club at Selby near Leeds.

homohabilis
03-23-2006, 01:33 AM
in four days i'll be starting my final quarter at the University of Washington, majoring in history.

wish me luck.

...and, the whole pappy boyington "scandal" aside, we aren't all idiots.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

tigertalon
03-23-2006, 01:49 AM
nuclear physics

El Turo
03-23-2006, 01:53 AM
Lessee.. I have had my private (VFR) ticket for about 6 years now, and am pursuing my MBA at UNLV here in Vegas along with a minor/certification in Graphic Arts - Digital Animation because I really enjoy it. I've been learning 3dStudioMax, XSI and Photoshop over the last year after getting involved in a game development startup business.

Flight Sims are my methadone for actual flight. There's just nothing like the real thing.. but time is always a scarce commodity in my life, and so I don't get to go up and do it for real but maybe 4-5 times a year anymore.

Of course, they don't let you shoot anyone in real life.. so flight sims have that going for them. Heh..

stathem
03-23-2006, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by Jatro13th:
Finished High School in Greece, went to Optician school in Athens, but mid-way I got the opportunity to study dentistry in Manchester. Left Optician school and now I'm a fifth year in Manchester Dental School.

Can read speak and write Greek (native), English (fluently), French (its been a long time), German (almost forgotten them), Italian (basic communication).

I can play the piano quite well, but never got to get the Higher Diploma since I got involved with the University examinations at school.

As far as aviation is concerned, my experience is very limited, since I've only taken a couple of 'lessons' in a sailplane at Burn Gliding club at Selby near Leeds.

Hey! I had a tooth taken out there by students a couple of years ago, wasn't you was it? I know the student that injected me was more nervous than I was, she almost forgot to blow the air out of the syringe before she put it in my hand. Close one.

Anyway, hope you're enjoying our city.

For me, dropped out of a Food Science degree, got a job, got a degree in Chemistry on day release at M/cr Poly (as it was then). Now working as a R+D Technician/Scientist in the battery industry. Even got my name on a paper or two now.

Self-taught at (very) basic programming, in order to make my job easier.

Dunhill_BKK
03-23-2006, 02:12 AM
I'm a misguided stone masons labourer, with a Masters in Veterinary Science and a Doctorate in Biochemistry/Aquaculture, who wishes he was still out sorting rocks.

DaimonSyrius
03-23-2006, 02:19 AM
My main and most relevant educational background is having stepped around parts of this planet for almost half a century now, with open eyes and keen attention.

As the next most relevant, and very educational indeed, I'd list a love for reading all sorts of writings, both on paper and, lately, on this screen too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Keen attention is the main ingredient also here (it is everywhere, really).

I've learned four languages along the way (Catalan, Spanish, French and English) with varied proficiency mileages http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I would add music here as a particular kind of language that I enjoy as I do all of them, but in a very special way, which includes trying to get my fingers to dance on a guitar. I love languages, and they are the fundamental tool for almost all learning, including interacting with other minds and working out my own.

And then, academic background (M.D., Ph.D.) provided a way of getting my living from teaching and researching biophysics, specialising in the movements of ions across the plama mebrane of cells, and particularly the electric phenomena derived from them (membrane potential, action potentials in nerve cells, and the like).

As to the initial poster's question, I've had no real nor formal aviation training, only what I've picked up here and there.

Cheers,
S.

HotelBushranger
03-23-2006, 02:53 AM
Currently studying Yr 11 at high school. Geometry & Trigonometry, Intro Calculus, Physics, History, English and Non-TEE Drama. Done 7 years of Italian, know bugger all though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif School lessons don't teach ****. Did German for a year outta school, but had to stop for financial reasons - was gonna move to Canada but didn't in the the end.

In October, I'm going on an Elementary Flying Training Course (EFTC). 10 days just straight flying <drools> can't wait. At the end, I go solo and get my Students Pilots License, which is pretty bloody beaut.

Once done with school, gonna bum around for a few years then walk through a recruiting door.
After a career with the military, I dunno what I'm gonna do. Maybe stick with aviation. Well probably. Well. Definitely.

WOLFMondo
03-23-2006, 03:19 AM
I've got a HND in BF1942, HNC in World of Warcrack, 5 A levels in RTS's, a BSc (with hons) in FB and a doctorate in giving myself hangovers.

PikeBishop
03-23-2006, 04:39 AM
Psychopharmacologist.

DaimonSyrius
03-23-2006, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by PikeBishop:
Psychopharmacologist.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Cheers,
S.

PF_Coastie
03-23-2006, 05:15 AM
My momma teached me to do readin, ritin and rithmatik. Then I joined the Coast Guard and they teched me the rest of the **** in my brane! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

rawheid_rex
03-23-2006, 05:16 AM
BSc (Hons) in Geology & Petroleum Geology
PhD in Petroleum Engineering

danjama
03-23-2006, 06:01 AM
Im just about to finish my A levels in P.E., English Literature and Geography, as soon as i get my grades i'll be going to University to study either English Lit with Creative writing, Aerospace Engineering or Pilot studies with commercial airline pilot licence (Via CabAir).

I may decide not to go Uni caus i am damn sick of formal education, and instead join the RAF direct, as an Engineer or Pilot (if they will let a nut like me fly)! More recently ive been thinking of joining the British Army, as it looks to be alot more activity based, what with exercises abroad and basically more to do than the other services.

Those are what im considering, cant wait for life to come my way!!(feel like a sittin duck at the moment just waitin for the damn exams to get over with)

elphifou
03-23-2006, 06:10 AM
Ordinary education and without problems up until the last years before "baccalauréat" (= "high school diploma") which I failed... My mind was elsewhere at the time (music and girls for the most part http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif )
Then I worked with my parents (pork butchery and delicatessen) for 3 years, saving money for further studies in music. Then spent 1 year on an airbase - military service - that was my first contact with the world of aviation.
Then the music years : worked for 10 years as a music teacher and stage musician.

Took up studies again at the age of 30, changing my life completely. Moved to London where I stayed for 3 years. Got a 3-year diploma (licence) in LLCE (roughly = Linguistics, Literature and Civilization in English). I'm planning to go further though, probably specializing in linguistics... promises, promises http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Came back to France where I'm still living now.

I now work 75% as an English teacher and 25% as a musician (mostly jazz music).

Ares_336sqn
03-23-2006, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by Haigotron:
Im curious to see what most of our community is in terms of educational background.

Why???

Shultze_87
03-23-2006, 06:16 AM
1st year medical student at Jordan University of Science and Tech http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Salute

Bo_Nidle
03-23-2006, 06:18 AM
In descending order: The University of life, the school of hard knocks and the kindergarten of getting the sh*t kicked out of me!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

VW-IceFire
03-23-2006, 06:36 AM
B.A. Honours Communications here. Currently in a tech support job...looking at Ministry of Transport stuff as well as anything else in the future.

LEBillfish
03-23-2006, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by pourshot:
.... not having an education and being ignorant are not the same thing....

Actually, it is EXACTLY that...simply uneducated. One could be a genius and "ignorant".....Ignorant simply means you don't know nor have been taught. It speaks nothing of the abilities of the person themselves ...but thank you for the kind intention http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

T_O_A_D
03-23-2006, 06:51 AM
Ignorance can be fixed, Stupid goes clear to the bone.

I would expect out community to be as diversified as our Real life counter parts were in the War. From farm boys to Doctors and lawyers.

I almost finished my Associates in my field. (Diesel Technology) But before I made it I managed to knock up me Girlfriend. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Been working that mistake off for the last 18 years.

In the in though it all good, she Graduates this spring, and her little sister will in two more years. Been Happily Married now just barely 19 years now. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Once I get them both on their own I plan to atleast get my Private Pilots license.

djetz
03-23-2006, 06:54 AM
High school dropout. As soon as I turned 16 and could legally get out of that hell-hole, I did so. Never regretted it.

These days, I would have likely had a different experience and the difficulties I had back then are now, finally, beginning to be recognised in schools.

I really didn't attend very much after the age of 13, so file me under "self-educated" if you need a category.

Haigotron
03-23-2006, 06:59 AM
WOW!

well i was wrong to say mostly EVERYONE has an aviation background!

this is so cool!


Originally posted by Arms1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Haigotron:
Im curious to see what most of our community is in terms of educational background. Is it true most of us have an aviation background?

well, to start it off, i have a background in microbiology and immunology http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Wow!, I teach immunology @ McMaster </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

REALLY? im at McGill in montreal!!
well im searching for a supervisor either in quebec or ontario for grad studies... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
stressful

HotelBushranger
03-23-2006, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by Bo_Nidle:
In descending order: The University of life, the school of hard knocks and the kindergarten of getting the sh*t kicked out of me!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

"And I am at last about to deduce that were are about to go, over the top." You're not the only Blackadder nut around here http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Djetz, what do you do for a living?

msalama
03-23-2006, 07:05 AM
Why???

Why not?

Haigotron
03-23-2006, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by Ares_336sqn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Haigotron:
Im curious to see what most of our community is in terms of educational background.

Why??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

erm....because...im a spy for mutants who live in the sewers..we want swift revenge...

actually, just uber pure curiosity...i had a feeling most of the community were people from an aviation background...well i was wrong!

Bearcat99
03-23-2006, 07:07 AM
I am a college dropout... I dropped out of college to become a full time bassplayer.. I was actually supposed to be rich and famous by now.... needless to say..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif like TOAD I knocked up me girlfriend... got married.... got a real job.... got divorced... got remarried.... etc etc etc... I always have been an avid reader reader though.. raised as an only child.. books were my friends.

Capt.LoneRanger
03-23-2006, 07:16 AM
Diploma in civil engineering with a specialization in urban development, here.

Crazy enough I live in the only single country on mother earth, that (thinks it) does not need plans for urban developement... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Poor Germany... literally... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

BSS_Goat
03-23-2006, 07:18 AM
Associate Of Agriculture ...... learned how to smoke without anyone smelling it..... throw up without anyone hearing it and pass a class without going to it.....

rnzoli
03-23-2006, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by Haigotron:
well i was wrong to say mostly EVERYONE has an aviation background!

Well, no one can blame your for this. All whining threads look like full of experts in aviation.

However, I would advise you to differenciate between formal education and gaining competence on the subject from own research (reading, analysing etc.) Many (including me) learnt a LOT (incredibly lot) through this forum.

Praetorian_Elite
03-23-2006, 07:25 AM
I'm a senoir in highschool. Going onto the Air Force once I graduate.

FlatSpinMan
03-23-2006, 07:33 AM
Interesting thread. I was going to ask the same thing. Got a Bachelor's in French about ten years ago, scarily enough. Then immediately moved to Japan to begin teaching English. It all seemed to make sense at the time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

After a long formal education lay-off I am now I'm just about to start on "Study: Part II". Doing a part-time CELTA course in Teaching English as a Foreign Language and then in August I'll probably start my M.A. in Applied Linguistics with a teaching focus.

No aviation education at all, just a fan.

Viper2005_
03-23-2006, 07:46 AM
2nd year Aviation technology w/ Pilot Studies. Flew my solo QXC yesterday.

Will most likely end up in the engineering side of the Industry, but consider it sensible (and fun!) to fly the things since it's the most effective method of learning what works and what doesn't.

For example, the C-150 I was flying yesterday had the transponder under the yoke on the right hand side. As a result I now consider myself to be a fully qualified aeronautical contortionist. Whoever designed that cockpit layout almost certainly never tried to fly it...

BTW Bearcat, I'm a lead guitarist. Bassists are rare, at least where I am. Drummers are rare enough that they can practically command a limo. As for singers, that'll have to wait until I've got a type rating for a Learjet... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Worf101
03-23-2006, 07:55 AM
Lesse... My educational milestones.

1. Attended all Black school in the New York City.

2. Then bussed to an all White School in same city. Learned to run very, very fast.

3. Never fully recovered from the switch in number 2.

4. Received A.A.S. in Forestry, New York State Ranger School. Learned to run fast. hollar imber and duck.

5. Graduated Combat Engineer School Fort Lost in the Woods, Misery. Learned how to drive.

6. Graduated Explosive Ordinance Disposal School. Learned where to put the pin back in.

7. Received B.S. in Forestry Resource Management. SUNY College of Forestry at Syracuse Uni.

8. Been playing bass guitar for money (Hey B.C.) off and on since the Nixon Administration.

I think that covers it all.

Da Worfster

NonWonderDog
03-23-2006, 07:58 AM
Finishing up my second year (had some prior credits, so mainly 3rd year classes) in the Aerospace Engineering department of the University of Michigan here. UofM is ranked as one of the top Aerospace Schools in the world right now, according to the literature, and it's only 40 minutes from my house. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I'm planning on getting some grad school credit and focusing on aerodynamics, at the moment. I really would like to fly the birds more often, but my only option for cheap lessons is 500 miles away.

msalama
03-23-2006, 08:03 AM
I dropped out of college to become a full time bassplayer..

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif You still play BC? Nice to see there're plenty of musicians around here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


I was actually supposed to be rich and famous by now....

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Yeah, there's no business like show business... if you're the manager that is! But hey, I've played on records, commercials, etc. myself and don't have 2 pennies to rub together... but it ain't the money, it's the GROOVE isn't it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Zoom2136
03-23-2006, 08:17 AM
College degree in aircraft maintenance...
Business administration bachelor.
Certified management accountant (prof designation)
Business valuation professional
And I specialize in litigation support (forensic accounting)...

Haigotron
03-23-2006, 08:30 AM
However, I would advise you to differenciate between formal education and gaining competence on the subject from own research (reading, analysing etc.) Many (including me) learnt a LOT (incredibly lot) through this forum.

True, i too have learned alot, from books, online stuff (grain of salt)...and especially this forum!

in terms of knowing the background, i meant general education, not necessarily about the know-how level of aviation! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

but great posts everyone, very diverse!!!

if we survive the apocalypse, let's start a community on an island!

shotdownski
03-23-2006, 08:34 AM
Out of high school by the skin of my teeth and into the US Navy. Trained as a Fire Control Tech (electronics, RADAR, electro-mechanical stuff). Nine years active duty enlisted gave me a great education in human nature, substance abuse, and sexual deviance (hetero only). After the Navy, college, ending with an M.S. in Environmental Science.

Unquenchable curiosity leads me to learn about, and sometimes master, lots of different subjects, such as: auto mechanics, sailing, energy effeciency and renewables, carpentry, scale ship modeling, gardening, FMB, parenting, etc.

One thing I wish I knew more about is music. I come from a musical family and love music (old rock, blues, bluegrass, etc) but never attempted to learn an instrument. Watching and listening to someone play fascinates me.

DaimonSyrius
03-23-2006, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by Ares_336sqn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Haigotron:
Im curious to see what most of our community is in terms of educational background.

Why??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
If we really mean what we're saying, does curiosity need a reason at all? Curiosity should go with being human, literate or not, educated or not. Just like thinking (and so many other things).

OTOH, you may be curious about someone else's specific curiosity about something, and that'd be fair enough for the same reason http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Cheers,
S.

djetz
03-23-2006, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
Djetz, what do you do for a living?

Now there's a tricky question. Not a lot, right now. I'm currently in the process of recovery from my life bottoming out into total disaster. This isn't really the place to go into detail.

Otherwise, I've done a lot of different things. Like some other folks here, I'm a musician, though I haven't done much work in that field for a couple of years. I write and occasionaly get published, in a small way.

I have been:
Office worker, a couple of times
Labourer, a couple of times
Computer repairer
Teacher aide (yes, I worked in a school, despite my feelings about my own experiences in school)
Shop assistant in a CD/DVD store
Some other stuff, no doubt, if I thought about it...

But I don't think my lack of formal education has had a really negative effect on me - people who had even less schooling than me have ended up very rich indeed. Going to the school I went to caused me much more harm than dropping out of it ever could have done. It's just a personality thing, some of us are capable of doing the career thing, some not.

Some people I greatly admire had no formal education at all, and I know for sure that one's education level and the amount of smarts a person has are completely unconnected. I'm sure we've all met over-educated idiots.

Haigotron
03-23-2006, 08:52 AM
Some people I greatly admire had no formal education at all, and I know for sure that one's education level and the amount of smarts a person has are completely unconnected. I'm sure we've all met over-educated idiots.

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DaimonSyrius
03-23-2006, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by Haigotron:
actually, just uber pure curiosity...i had a feeling most of the community were people from an aviation background...well i was wrong!
It would appear that the most common pattern here, if any, would be music http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif I'm quite surprised about that.
I actually took a several years break while I was in the middle of my degree because I was putting so much time in the guitar... I was working full-time as a labourer too at the time, and the day has got only so many hours. Then after some time I saw that, while I enjoyed music so very much, I couldn't live on it, and retook university (still labouring, though).

So no aviation... music for simmers! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif (or simmers for music, maybe? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif)

Cheers,
S.

achtung2004
03-23-2006, 09:11 AM
Anesthesiologist at a University hospital in the U.S.

More interestingly I learned to fly from a WWII fighter pilot instructor who had rapidly progessing dementia. I started out flying his 1946 Taylorcraft and progressed to his Stearman PT-17 biplane pretty much whenever I wanted. When we first started out, he would take me up to altitude and cut the engine and have me land in random farmer's fields. The look on their faces was priceless. It was spectacular as a 15 y.o. Unfortunately my flying now is limited to simulations at the moment. I suspect that will change in the future.

Interesting thread....

marc_hawkins
03-23-2006, 09:54 AM
I'm a overeducated idiot! degree in ancient history.

Though, as Oscar Wilde said, 'It is a sad thing to think of, but there is no doubt that genius lasts longer than beauty. That accounts for the fact that we all take such pains to overeducate ourselves'

Can't rely on my chisled good looks forever...

Airmail109
03-23-2006, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by rawheid_rex:
BSc (Hons) in Geology & Petroleum Geology
PhD in Petroleum Engineering

Thats what im aiming to do....

Slickun
03-23-2006, 10:13 AM
Bachelor of Science in Education, University of Arkansas 1978.
Masters of Education, Texas Tech University, 1979.
Specialists Degree, University of Arkansas, 2000

russ.nl
03-23-2006, 10:38 AM
I am currently in my last year of Toolmaking and hope I can use this trade for making the "Uber sim seat" in the future.

T_O_A_D
03-23-2006, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Haigotron:
if we survive the apocalypse, let's start a community on an island!

A doomed society already in the works. We only have One female in this Cult, at the moment. (LEBillfish) and according to her text, most or all of us would get knocked stupid, fairly quick http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

djetz
03-23-2006, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by marc_hawkins:
I'm a overeducated idiot! degree in ancient history.

I didn't say that everyone who has a lot of formal education is an idiot. For a start, I love history, it's one of my favourite things, and without historians I'd be very sad.

I was saying that certain people can have impressive academic credentials and yet be completely useless at basic things like not being a complete jerk. You know what I mean.

telsono
03-23-2006, 11:12 AM
BS in Conservation (Forestry/Plant Pathology)

MS in Plant Pathology

I grew up next to an small airport in New Jersey (Teterboro). They had some old warbirds there in the '60's. I kind of remember two B-25's, a P-47 and a P-51. Having planes fly overhead since I could remember keep up my interest as well as building plastic models.

Breeze147
03-23-2006, 11:42 AM
I want to read this entire thread when I get a chance, but for me:

High School Diploma, Academic Path, finished exactly 100th in a class of 200. The personification of medocrity. This was at Roman Catholic High School in Philadelphia, the first Catholic High School in the United States.

United States Air Force:
Air Police (which became Security Police)
Combat Security Police - I was in the 821st Combat Security Police Squadron, which was later designated to be a Light Infantry Brigade, the only one ever in the USAF. We were the ORIGINAL Blue Berets. Served in several locations in Vietnam. Also Okinawa, South Korea, Texas, Lousiana, Kansas, New Mexico.

Civilian - Warehouseman, tire builder, cab driver, paper mill laborer, press operator (auto body parts plan), parts inspector in same plant, bartender (Bartending School Grad), Dept. Of Defense Police Officer, Navy Public Works Inspector and Navy Public Works Planner and Estimator.

Notable Achievement Of Last 2 Years - Survived triple bypass heart surgery one year ago.

Present Goal: Visit Sheri's Ranch outside of Las Vegas this summer.

Present Addiction: Flight Sims and Labatt's Blue.

Haigotron
03-23-2006, 01:59 PM
A doomed society already in the works. We only have One female in this Cult, at the moment. (LEBillfish) and according to her text, most or all of us would get knocked stupid, fairly quick

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif didnt think of that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



Present Addiction: Flight Sims and Labatt's Blue


Nothing like a flight sim and canadian beer to instill fear in the eyes of the control tower on our approach to landing

jimDG
03-23-2006, 02:32 PM
PhD? anyone?http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MEng in Engineering and Materials Science
PhD in Nano-technology/Nano-systems engineering

VV_Holdenb
03-23-2006, 02:40 PM
Just another "over-educated idiot"
BSc Hons in Computer and Biological sciences
MSc in Bioinformatics. Work as a statistical programmer for a living.

Gold_Monkey
03-23-2006, 02:55 PM
Trade/High school diploma,Licensed Master Electrician, Own electrical contracting firm. Real break came from Wall St. in the 90s. Thank you Microsoft, Cisco Systems, Harley Davidson and AOL. Oh I forgot Private pilot Certificate Land and Sea.

Dunkelgrun
03-23-2006, 03:01 PM
Top dog in Primary School, got lazy in Grammar School and failed my A-Levels. Still had a good pile of O-Levels though, so went to work as a cartographic surveyor in Ordnance Survey (Civil Service). Took voluntary early redundancy three years ago and retrained as a stonemason. Enjoyed it but never was very good with my hands so am now a proofreader, market trader in liquorice, and general odd-job man.

Hey Bearcat: 'I always have been an avid reader reader though.. raised as an only child.. books were my friends.' You just described me as well http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif.

Cheers!

3.JG51_BigBear
03-23-2006, 03:03 PM
BS in accounting and right now I'm a second year law student.

ploughman
03-23-2006, 03:05 PM
Curiously enough I left an English boarding school age 14 to gain an American High School Diploma followed by an undergraduate degree in indolence and frippery which resulted in an MA Modern History from the oldest university in Scotland, which translates to a doctorate in heavy drinking anywhere else in the world.

I use this vocational qualification daily in my work as a visual artist.

I've never been allowed near the worky bits of an aircraft, but I do know people who have.

JG7_Rall
03-23-2006, 03:17 PM
Funny this thread should appear now. I'm anxiously awaiting to hear from colleges.

I got shot down by Cornell (early decision) and got into the university of vermont and university of massachusetts (amherst). Still waiting to hear from bucknell, lafayette, boston college, and villanova. I hope to study mechanical engineering and I am considering doing AFROTC while in college. My only aviation background is a students pilots' license, and the PPL that I'll be getting in the next month or two.

Wish me luck http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HayateAce
03-23-2006, 03:22 PM
Finished 51st in my class.

http://www.motorsportsemployment.com/images/hamrick.gif

Stackhouse25th
03-23-2006, 03:49 PM
6 year degree in online aviation
4 year collage dergre
2 years at Oxford studying marine biology
8 years of studying female sexuality
2 years of post graduate undergraduate degree studying, gynecology

So i think that that would make me a:

SimAviationMarineSexologistGynecologist

i think

JuHa-
03-23-2006, 04:04 PM
M.Sc. in Information Technology (Measurement and Data Analysis + electronics).

Would've been nice to work in that field, but I became a telecom protocol
test expert instead. Such is life.

golfbravopi
03-23-2006, 04:21 PM
B.S. Aerospace Engineering, Virginia Tech
Student Pilot Certificate
En route to Private Pilot Certificate


Yeah...I'm a little nuts about airplanes. Good motivation to work hard in school!

MercilessFatBoy
03-23-2006, 04:24 PM
first than all, can any one tell me what educational means?....

slipBall
03-23-2006, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Stackhouse25th:
6 year degree in online aviation
4 year collage dergre
2 years at Oxford studying marine biology
8 years of studying female sexuality
2 years of post graduate undergraduate degree studying, gynecology

So i think that that would make me a:

SimAviationMarineSexologistGynecologist

i think


Very impressive resume http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Adam906
03-23-2006, 04:52 PM
I have a Heritage Management Degree (Ba. Applied Science) ie, I'm a qualified curator and another (BA) in History/archaeology and am now working on my thesis at uni. Titled being "Luftwaffe Anti-Shipping Capabilities and Operations in Western European and Scandanavian Waters, Apr. 40 - Jan. 43"

Then there is the degree I got from the Uni of Life in which I majored in Applied Sex and Beer drinking studies....

Haigotron
03-23-2006, 05:13 PM
wow, i havent tallied an official count *yet*, but there seems to be alotta historians also! interesting!

Dr2GunzOD
03-23-2006, 05:16 PM
Optometrist

pacettid
03-23-2006, 05:22 PM
History Major - United States Naval Academy, Annapolis Maryland - Class of 1976

Steven190
03-23-2006, 05:25 PM
A degree in Mechiniacl Engineering-BSME
Southern Illinois University

nickdanger3
03-23-2006, 05:40 PM
BA in Geology
MA in Geography

Never flown a real airplane.

If you've got Google Earth you can see what I do by downloading this http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=348706

FA_Razor
03-23-2006, 08:31 PM
It's been a long and winding road...
BS in Biology
Taught 8th grade for a year--hated it.
Pizza Delivery Driver, worked up to manager.
Fast food manager,
Family restaurant manager,
Land surveyor
Fly Fishing "pro" and salesman
Commercial fly tyer
Got "real" teaching job, HS Science
MS in GIS, Satellite Tech and Remote Sensing
Teach GIS and Cartography
ABD in PhD Program (Technology)
Became a Dad (the most fulfilling achievment to date)

lbhskier37
03-23-2006, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
Diploma in civil engineering with a specialization in urban development, here.

I see there are other MEs in here and I can't believe no one picked it up, but like we always joked in school to the Civils, "we build weapons, you build targets!"
Anyways BS in Mechancial Engineering from UW Madison
I don't work in aviation, but the cranes I help design can get up close to 600ft highhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Gold_Monkey
03-23-2006, 09:29 PM
I see there are other MEs in here and I can't believe no one picked it up, but like we always joked in school to the Civils, "we build weapons, you build targets!"
I gotta remember that Ibhskier37, I work with both.

Treetop64
03-23-2006, 10:12 PM
This is quite a fascinating thread! Good subject!

Me? College dropout (I lived 30 miles from school when my car broke down in my sophmore year. Never fully recovered since...)

Spent four years in the U.S. Marines ('89 - '93), then worked odd jobs and got married. Went back into the military, this time the U.S. Coast Guard ('95 - '00). There I spent 9 months on a 210' cutter out of Panama City, Florida, then went to avaition. Spent the remainder of my serivce as an avionics tech for HC-130s out of Sacramento, California. Also flew as a radioman and navigator on the same planes we worked on. In the Coast Guard, the guys and girls who work on the planes on the ground also fly in them during missions.

The college thing happend during the latter stages of, and after, my Coast Guard career.

I've since been happily divorced!

Now I'm struggling to hold onto my job as a noob project coordinator for a major homebuilder in the U.S.

PF is what I use for escapism.

Ominae-
03-23-2006, 11:45 PM
Currently in film college.

DocD1960
03-24-2006, 12:48 AM
Chiropractor, but music is and always has been my first love, played drums for almost 40 yrs, just figured I could never make much of a living at it. My only experience with planes is as a passenger, lol.

Ares_336sqn
03-24-2006, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by DaimonSyrius:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ares_336sqn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Haigotron:
Im curious to see what most of our community is in terms of educational background.

Why??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
If we really mean what we're saying, does curiosity need a reason at all? Curiosity should go with being human, literate or not, educated or not. Just like thinking (and so many other things).

OTOH, you may be curious about someone else's specific curiosity about something, and that'd be fair enough for the same reason http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Cheers,
S. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

i was always suprised by these questions.
If you want to really learn about others, then you practise the art of listening. Questions are always self -centered, what you need to know, not what you should know. You can ask a thousand questions like these and learn nothing about the others, although you think you do.
Educational background has always been the most misleading element when i try to figure out who is the person in front of me- and i do that every day.

El Turo
03-24-2006, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by Ares_336sqn:

I work for the psychic friends network. You're a Libra, aren't ya darlin'?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

Ares_336sqn
03-24-2006, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by El Turo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ares_336sqn:

I work for the psychic friends network. You're a Libra, aren't ya darlin'?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Close, i am a psychiatrist.

Jatro13th
03-24-2006, 03:31 AM
Hey! I had a tooth taken out there by students a couple of years ago, wasn't you was it? I know the student that injected me was more nervous than I was, she almost forgot to blow the air out of the syringe before she put it in my hand. Close one.

Anyway, hope you're enjoying our city.

Hey Stathem, if it was a girl it probably wasn't me, since I carry 3 extra things between my legs! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

If it was two years back, then I was a third year, and the reaction of the girl sounds third yearish, so I guess it must have been one of my fellow students!

Well what do you know? The world is a small place afterall!

P.S. I think that I enjoyed the city enough, 5 years in Fallowfield is more than I can take!!! hehe!
Salute Stathem!

carguy_
03-24-2006, 03:42 AM
Currently 3rd year law student.

bazzaah2
03-24-2006, 04:13 AM
Degree in Russian and a Masters in developmental economics.

stathem
03-24-2006, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by Jatro13th:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Hey! I had a tooth taken out there by students a couple of years ago, wasn't you was it? I know the student that injected me was more nervous than I was, she almost forgot to blow the air out of the syringe before she put it in my hand. Close one.

Anyway, hope you're enjoying our city.

Hey Stathem, if it was a girl it probably wasn't me, since I carry 3 extra things between my legs! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

If it was two years back, then I was a third year, and the reaction of the girl sounds third yearish, so I guess it must have been one of my fellow students!

Well what do you know? The world is a small place afterall!

P.S. I think that I enjoyed the city enough, 5 years in Fallowfield is more than I can take!!! hehe!
Salute Stathem! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif S!

Oh, yes, 5 mins in Fallowfield can feel like a lifetime, particularly if you're trying to find your way out! It's been a while since I've been down the Curry Shute.

Dunno if she was the one who did the Op., don't remember much after the injection... Nice job all the same.

Good luck with the career, cya around http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

lowfighter
03-24-2006, 04:17 AM
some say I'm a physicist http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

OldMan____
03-24-2006, 06:25 AM
Baschelor in Computer Sciences and Master Degree in Software Engineering Applied to Operating Systems development.

Breeze147
03-24-2006, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by Jatro13th:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Hey! I had a tooth taken out there by students a couple of years ago, wasn't you was it? I know the student that injected me was more nervous than I was, she almost forgot to blow the air out of the syringe before she put it in my hand. Close one.

Anyway, hope you're enjoying our city.

Hey Stathem, if it was a girl it probably wasn't me, since I carry 3 extra things between my legs! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

If it was two years back, then I was a third year, and the reaction of the girl sounds third yearish, so I guess it must have been one of my fellow students!

Well what do you know? The world is a small place afterall!

P.S. I think that I enjoyed the city enough, 5 years in Fallowfield is more than I can take!!! hehe!
Salute Stathem! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah, I would have stopped her when she didn't put the needle in my gums. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Breeze147
03-24-2006, 06:46 AM
Originally posted by slo_1_2_3:
I'm a softmore in highschool. But I plan to take some kinda career in aviation, I still don't know what tho.
Got any ideas?
I would start out with spelling and grammar. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

BaldieJr
03-24-2006, 08:14 AM
im ignorant and arrogant about about it.

bubba3884
03-24-2006, 08:31 AM
-Assoc. Degree in Geography
-Bush Pilot in N. Canada 5 yrs
-Airline Pilot for USAirways Express till shortly after 9/11 (6 Yrs)
-Fighting forest fires in an old DC-6 and loving it! last 3 years

Ambitions: to land in FB/PF successfully more than 50% of the time and shoot down an enemy fighter that isn't "green"

stathem
03-24-2006, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by Breeze147:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jatro13th:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Hey! I had a tooth taken out there by students a couple of years ago, wasn't you was it? I know the student that injected me was more nervous than I was, she almost forgot to blow the air out of the syringe before she put it in my hand. Close one.

Anyway, hope you're enjoying our city.

Hey Stathem, if it was a girl it probably wasn't me, since I carry 3 extra things between my legs! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

If it was two years back, then I was a third year, and the reaction of the girl sounds third yearish, so I guess it must have been one of my fellow students!

Well what do you know? The world is a small place afterall!

P.S. I think that I enjoyed the city enough, 5 years in Fallowfield is more than I can take!!! hehe!
Salute Stathem! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah, I would have stopped her when she didn't put the needle in my gums. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
03-24-2006, 11:12 AM
lbhskier37 wrote:
"we build weapons, you build targets!"


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Never heared that before. We have another wise word here in Germany.

"Ein Ingenieur der nicht s√¬§uft, ist wie ein Motor, der nicht l√¬§uft."
(An engineer not drinking is like an engine not running)

Bearcat99
03-24-2006, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by msalama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I dropped out of college to become a full time bassplayer..

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif You still play BC? Nice to see there're plenty of musicians around here http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


I was actually supposed to be rich and famous by now....

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Yeah, there's no business like show business... if you're the manager that is! But hey, I've played on records, commercials, etc. myself and don't have 2 pennies to rub together... but it ain't the money, it's the GROOVE isn't it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah I still play.... I play for JAEEZUSSSS NAIOW!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

I have more fun on Sunday morning than any Saturday night of my life.... and I have had some pretty interesting Saturday nights.... Now I play in the Spanish service every other Sunday and in the main service every other Sunday... I have to fix the neck on my Tacoma... and I have a set of Bartolinis for my 77 Jazz... I also started fiddling with a 5 string... My wife sings.... pretty good voice in fact.. on one of our first dates we sat on her love seat singing Stevie tunes accapella for about 2 hours straight. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

Monson74
03-24-2006, 12:03 PM
It's interesting to learn your backgrounds - often people do something entirely different than what they trained for which is very encouraging & inspiring IMO. Education is a good thing but nothing beats the school of life. In six months (if everything goes well) I'll have a BA in theology & then I'll go for a master in either theology or maybe organisation management & communications. Wish me luck.

Grey_Mouser67
03-24-2006, 04:44 PM
Intersting thread....a wide variety of personalities no doubt and it never ceases to amaze me how many older and formally educated folks find their way to avaiation sims....

I have a Forest Products degree from Purdue University and currently manage a plywood mill. Very similar to the proverbial "delta wood"!

danjama
03-24-2006, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by JG7_Rall:
Funny this thread should appear now. I'm anxiously awaiting to hear from colleges.

I got shot down by Cornell (early decision) and got into the university of vermont and university of massachusetts (amherst). Still waiting to hear from bucknell, lafayette, boston college, and villanova. I hope to study mechanical engineering and I am considering doing AFROTC while in college. My only aviation background is a students pilots' license, and the PPL that I'll be getting in the next month or two.

Wish me luck http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Good Luck http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif .

Ive just recieved the last of my University offers. I was given a strait No from Kingston where i applied for Aeronautical engineering, and recieved conditional offers from Hertfordshire (English Lit + Creative writing), Plymouth (English Lit), Buckinghamshire(Pilot License with commercial pilot studies), UniOfEastLondon (English Lit) and Bournemouth (Aerospace engineering). Im still not sure which i should go for and the decidion is really stressing me out. I just dont know what i want to do, worrying at this stage of the year. Hell, i dont even know for sure if i want to go to University! How does anyone decide what they want to do, or what to do next....

Treetop64
03-24-2006, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by HayateAce:
Finished 51st in my class.

http://www.motorsportsemployment.com/images/hamrick.gif

Out of, what, 53? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Zeus-cat
03-24-2006, 09:18 PM
BS in Math/Computer Science
BS in Electrical Engineering
MS in Operations Research (sort of applied statistics)

Currently pushing paper for "the man" at an aerospace company. Saving up my money so I can quit the corporate world and travel the real world.

ddsflyer
03-25-2006, 12:07 AM
B.A. in English Literature
D.D.S. (dentistry)
Multiengine Airline Transport Pilot License

DaimonSyrius
03-25-2006, 02:26 AM
What Having a Harvard MBA Is Good For (http://pages.prodigy.net/amp2/fudd.htm)
or -Philosophy: Full And Busy Life-


An Amewican businessman was at the piew of a smaww coastaw Mexican viwwage when a smaww boat wif just one fishewman docked. Inside the smaww boat wewe sevewaw wawge yewwow fin tuna. De Amewican compwimented the Mexican on the qwawity of his fish and asked how wong it took to catch them. De Mexican wepwied onwy a wittwe whiwe. De Amewican then asked why didn't he stay out wongew and catch mowe fish? De Mexican said he had enough to suppowt his famiwy's immediate needs. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit! De Amewican then asked, but what do you do wif the west of youw time? De Mexican fishewman said, "I sweep wate, fish a wittwe, pway wif my chiwdwen, take siesta wif my wife, Mawia, stwoww into the viwwage each evening whewe I sip wine and pway guitaw wif my amigos, I have a fuww and busy wife,senow.

De Amewican scoffed, "I am a Hawvawd MBA and couwd hewp you. You shouwd spend mowe time fishing and wif the pwoceeds buy a biggew boat, wif the pwoceeds fwom the biggew boat you couwd buy sevewaw boats, eventuawwy you wouwd have a fweet of fishing boats. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit! Instead of sewwing youw catch to a middweman you wouwd seww diwectwy to the pwocessow, eventuawwy opening youw own cannewy. You wouwd contwow the pwoduct, pwocessing and distwibution, uh-hah-hah-hah. You wouwd need to weave this smaww coastaw fishing viwwage and move to Mexico City, then WA and eventuawwy NYC whewe you wiww wun youw expanding entewpwise."

"De Mexican fishewman asked, "But senow, how wong wiww this aww take?" To which the Amewican wepwied, "15-20 yeaws. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit!

"But what then, senow?

De Amewican waughed and said that's the best pawt. When the time is wight you wouwd announce an IPO and seww youw company stock to the pubwic and become vewy wich, you wouwd make miwwions. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit!

Miwwions, senow? Den what?

De Amewican said, "Den you wouwd wetiwe. Move to a smaww coastaw fishing viwwage whewe you wouwd sweep wate, fish a wittwe, pway wif youw kids, take siesta with youw wife, stwoww to the viwwage in the evenings whewe you couwd sip wine and pway youw guitaw wif youw amigos. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit! "

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Cheers,
S.

Max.Power
03-25-2006, 03:08 AM
3 Years of post secondary all together, including an associate's degree in psychology, a minor in applied philosophy (critical thinking and biomedical ethics). Been on the Dean's list and list of merit many times... but...

...I (have learned to) hate psychologists. I'm thinking medschool or dumping this fiasco altogether and just going into 3d animation like I wanted to originally.

Bremspropeller
03-25-2006, 03:24 AM
Started elementary school in september '92 at Berlin. Moved to Erding near Munich (the place where the beer comes from..) in '94 and joined "Gymnasium" (middle-school and high school, ends with "Abitur" or just "ABI" - equivalent to A-levels) in september '96.
Moved to Ratingen near D√ľsseldorf in '01 and continued Gymnasium over there. Made my ABI there in june '05.

In july '05 the Bundeswehr (german army) drafted me - I joined the Luftwaffe.
Military service is gonna end next week.

Afterwards I'm gonna have three practical months at a well-known german charter-airline as technician (gonna learn how to work with metals, etc).
In october I'm gonna start my studies - most propably in the subject "Aeronautics and Space Engineering" (right term ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif )


Ah - I started gliding in '00 and got my license in '04.
Some time later (depends on money..) I'm gonna make my PPL-A license...

Pirschjaeger
03-25-2006, 03:29 AM
I dropped out of junior high at 14. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Everything else, good and bad, was self-taught.

Bremspropeller
03-25-2006, 04:16 AM
Ah, now that explains everything http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

SnapdLikeAMutha
03-25-2006, 06:10 AM
Currently studying for my Bachelors in Music Technology

han freak solo
03-25-2006, 08:03 AM
I'm a perpetual community college student. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

I did have two years of tech school for pilot training from 1985-1987. Then money ran out and real life began.

I now have 19 years of OJT in the printing/bindery world and I've been paid to repair machines for the last 11 years.

I've taken a smattering of community college night classes since 1993. Covering management, marketing, electronics, hydraulics, and computers. I'm in the middle of my 4th computer related course in the last two years. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Will it never end? No.

Will I ever have a degree? No. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Zeus-cat
03-25-2006, 08:36 AM
HFS said
Will I ever have a degree? No.

I work with a guy who transferred from school to school to school over many years. A lot of this was done while he was in the military. Anyway, he had more credits than I do (I have three degrees, see my post on page 6) and all he had was an associates degree. We called him Dr. Chuck because of all his time in school. He finally enrolled in an online degree program (worked his butt of by the way) and finally got his BS degree. He is working on a Masters degree now. It can be done!

MadBadVlad
03-25-2006, 09:56 AM
BA Archaeology & Ancient History
MA Industrial Archaeology

Wannabe pilot working as an Archaeologist !

Xirto
03-25-2006, 10:29 AM
B.Sc. in biochemistry,
M. Sc. in endocrinology/oncology

Cool to see some other biochemists/immunologists/lab assistants playing Il-2 Sturmovik! We should start a lab someday!

heywooood
03-25-2006, 10:41 AM
beauty school dropout...but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

Lucius_Esox
03-25-2006, 10:45 AM
After a lifetime of academia I have now found my perfect job working in a Pork Pie factory.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

_VR_ScorpionWorm
03-25-2006, 10:48 AM
Nothing special, nothing book intensive(well depends on how you look at it).

Automotive Repair TECHNICIAN. Make sure you get the technician correct, any monkey can be a mechanic(remove and replace components), it takes true brains to be a technician in auto repair. Diagnosis, understanding, reading and comprehending a multi-meter for various functions, the ability to understand and use a 'scanner'. The shop I work at uses the Snap-On MODIS(Modular Onboard Diagnosis Information Systems). Soon to be ASE certified.

Bula
03-25-2006, 12:23 PM
I only skimmed through these posts, but wow...no law degrees. Y'all really are a good bunch of folks! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I trained to be a Cold Warrior (History/Poli Sci Double Major, MA in East European Area Studies) back when there were gobs of Title VI funds available for those studying the Soviet Bloc. Then the Cold War ended, so I had to re-orient myself. After floating around Southeastern Europe for most of the '90s, I returned home to analyze (battle?) immigration. It may not be as sexy as the Cold War, but, hey, it's a living.

It was also nice to see all the musicians posting on this thread! I used to be a pretty good trumpet player (everything from classical to back-up instrumentals for a rock band) and sometimes wish I hadn't given it up. It simply wouldn't pay the bills, though.

Haigotron
03-25-2006, 12:50 PM
B.Sc. in biochemistry,
M. Sc. in endocrinology/oncology

Cool to see some other biochemists/immunologists/lab assistants playing Il-2 Sturmovik! We should start a lab someday!

I AGREE!!!

im actually going to start my master's degree, and I need to chose between biomedical engineering, specifically - medical nanotech....or immunology- aspects of HIV ...

the former seems more interesting, if only the supervisor got back to me! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

WOW, we are truly a diverse bunch! Don't stop guys http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif when i have the time, ill tally the results and...unless you guys oppose

and a general goodluck to all in all that you do! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ImpStarDuece
03-25-2006, 03:12 PM
13 years of Jesuit Catholic school

4 years of an Economic History and Social Science degree

6 months Teaching English as a Second Langauge (TESL)

I'm now considering going back to Uni to do either a history masters or a 5 year (part time) course in environmental sciences and development

jurinko
03-25-2006, 03:33 PM
chemical engineer here

TC_Stele
03-25-2006, 05:40 PM
BS in Criminal Justice.

Not doing much with it right now, I need more education to really get anywhere considering where I'm living.

piloteer_1981
03-25-2006, 06:14 PM
School/high school bla bla...Got a degree in Marine Navigation (BSc Honours) two years ago, been chasing a career as a pilot since then. 9/11 gave the airline industry a complete hammering in the UK. All sponsorship was cancelled and I certainly couldn't afford the ‚£80-100k needed to pay my own way. Currently in the process of applying to the Navy as a pilot, IL2 sure helped with the aptitude tests! Were a doddle!

Messaschnitzel
03-25-2006, 07:36 PM
I barely graduated high school. I have been on my own and working full time making my living since I was 16 years old as a manual machinist/tool and die maker. I am 44 years old now. I really didn't start reading books until I found a copy of Louis L'Amour's "A man Called Noon" in a trash can when I was in my early 20's. After reading that one, I started buying and reading his other books, and I have been hooked on reading since then. Before finding that book, if I read anything at all, it was usually a book along the lines of the "MAD" magazine joke books. An unexpected result of this is that through reading, I have learned how to write and speak as though I had some serious education behind me. That and gradually getting rid of my accent. The irony is that when I was 16, I moved from Texas to California. I sounded like "Larry the Cable Guy" with his onstage level of intelligence to match. With that accent, everybody laughed at me and never took me seriously. Nobody would hire me for anything but as a dairy or ranch laborer. I was lucky in that there was a small tool and die machine shop in the area where I was living and working at the time. The owner hired me, and I have been doing this line of work since then. The reason for this long winded exposition is that I really owe most of my knowledge and education from the books I have read in substitution of a formal education. I do still think that "MAD" magazines are the shinizzle, though! (I don't care what anybody sez, that was funny!)http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Esel1964
03-25-2006, 08:24 PM
I was expelled from kindergarten the third day,I was deemed "hopeless". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

To use the forum,I dictate what I want to say to my wife,and she types it.She graduated 3rd. grade,she's a genius.

"Never hold discussions with the monkey when the organ grinder is in the room."
Sir Winston Churchill

Chef-Scott
03-25-2006, 10:14 PM
Former graphic designer/printer (20 years) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Currently a Certified (Insane) Le Cordon Bleu Chef employed at a major posh hotel. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Soon to open a pastry/coffee house with my wife and leave the corporate world, and dance with the bear! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Doolittle81
03-26-2006, 12:27 AM
The original question was about Educational background, and also if most of us have an Aviation background...

Education....Hmmm... Street-smart stuff in NewJersey, Tough lessons from the first day in kindergarten thru High school graduation! That was a Great education...in Survival!!!!
Left Jersey(Joisey) three days after graduating!! Haleelujah!!! [See...I still can't spell that woid!]

Later:
Bachelors Degree in National Security Affairs/International Relations. USAF Academy [My Aviation link]
Bachelors Degree in Japanese Studies; Master's Degree in Public and International Affairs; Post-Graduate, pre-doctoral Studies/Certification in Soviet/East European Studies
Graduate of US Armed Forces Staff College, Graduate of US Air Force Air War College, Graduate of US National War College [There's more of my Aviation-background, as requested in the original post. 28+ years in USAF is also an aviation-education, I guess)

Currently enrolled in undergraduate Chinese Studies/language B.A. program at UNLV
(UNLV, that's in Las Vegas, Baby! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif).

Languages(because others have mentioned language abilities in their posts): German, Russian, Japanese, Spanish, some Italian, some French, one year of undergrad college Chinese(Mandarin)...heading to China for a couple of weeks next month to improve on the "book-learnin'"...

nearsighted1
03-26-2006, 12:49 AM
Ph.D in mathematics.

Doolittle81
03-26-2006, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
..... Im still not sure which i should go for and the decidion is really stressing me out. I just dont know what i want to do, worrying at this stage of the year. Hell, i dont even know for sure if i want to go to University! How does anyone decide what they want to do, or what to do next....

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif Some people literally Flip a Coin! Let Karma make the decision! Am I serious??? I think so. I wrestled with such decisions thoughout my life (I'm OLD...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif)...I made the right decisions, I think...everything worked out very well....BUT, who knows what might have happened had I taken a different path??? Icould have been a King! I'd recommend: don't stress out...go with the flow...make your best choice, then go forward with it....you've got LOTS of flexibility ahead of you in life to find your way, and change your path if need be.....

Kocur_
03-26-2006, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by Bula:
I only skimmed through these posts, but wow...no law degrees. Y'all really are a good bunch of folks! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif



Sorry to disappoint you... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (put away the hatchets - I dont practice, have gov job, OTOH pretty mean too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif).
That plus like 15 years of private "studies" of guns - succesful enough to write about them (and draw mechs too - anyone interested in forward ejecting bull-pup with no additional levers? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif).

JG52Karaya-X
03-26-2006, 02:48 AM
Graduated from High School with highest honours, now studying chemistry at the university of Vienna - going to take a specialization in analytical chemistry (qualitative and quantitative analysis of chemical compounds)

Pirschjaeger
03-26-2006, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by Doolittle81:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
..... Im still not sure which i should go for and the decidion is really stressing me out. I just dont know what i want to do, worrying at this stage of the year. Hell, i dont even know for sure if i want to go to University! How does anyone decide what they want to do, or what to do next....

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif Some people literally Flip a Coin! Let Karma make the decision! Am I serious??? I think so. I wrestled with such decisions thoughout my life (I'm OLD...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif)...I made the right decisions, I think...everything worked out very well....BUT, who knows what might have happened had I taken a different path??? Icould have been a King! I'd recommend: don't stress out...go with the flow...make your best choice, then go forward with it....you've got LOTS of flexibility ahead of you in life to find your way, and change your path if need be..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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I agree with him Dan. I'm 39 and still don't know what I wanna be when I grow up,.......maybe taller. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

As you might have read earlier, I'm a drop out.

I was a straight "A" student until grade 7, although I rarely showed up at school. I had been skipping school since the first day of kindergarten. By grade 7 the system became efficient enough to track my movements. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Then I really became rebellious and figured keeping the lowest possible average was the best way to punish the authorities(mom and dad). At 14 I had had enough and dropped out. 14 and free? Hmmm, try to get a job at 14.

At 15 I was sent to a psychologist for testing. This time I agreed cause I started to realize there must be a problem somewhere. After a few week of constant testing it was decided that I was bored with school. The doctors claimed that I was basically a genius and that school wasn't enough for me. Sounds good right? Wrong.

These morons gave me the choice of what I wanted to do. At 15 I was supposed to make a decision about the rest of my life. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I decided I wanted to be an auto mechanic. By 15 I had already rebuilt diesel engines in my father's fleet. I had been doing the fleet maintanance since I was about 10. I owned my first car at 12 and at 15 I may have been intellegent but I definitely wasn`t socially developed enough for an adult college. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Anyways, auto mechanics bored me within the first month. I dropped out again. I tried Drafting and mechanical drawings but I had already developed my skills far beyond what they were teaching. I dropped out. Then I went for machinist but found that to be boring also. Same fate for welding.

Dude, I've had many different jobs such as graphic design, truck driver, sailor, teacher, restaurant manager, copy writer, machine technicial and construction just to name a few. My suggestion would be to study something that interests you, even if it's not what you want for a career. While you are studying you will find many opportunities and as Doolittle pointed out, many paths. But you must stick with it even if you do change your paths. If it gets boring, do it anyway.

Now I'm 39 and finally figured out what I want to do. Don't pressure yourself with making the right decision. Make a useful decision.

Fritz(Dan's illegal guardian) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Hawgdog
03-26-2006, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by Haigotron:
Im curious to see what most of our community is in terms of educational background. :

I like teechurs.

RxMan
03-26-2006, 09:47 AM
1940-45 - learning to walk/talk
1945-54 - Grade school
1954-58 - High School (the good days)
1959 - 1 year college
summer - got married (still am)
1960 - 1 year college
summer - daughter born
1961 - 1 year college
summer - flunked out, fishing and chess
1962 - work: petroleum and sugar cane jobs
summer - back to college, regret flunking out
1963 - 1 year college
summer - I've got to get my s**t together
1964 - 1 year college
summer - graduated B.S. Pharmacy/Pharmacology
1965-74 - work: Pharmacist, relief & K&B, son born
1975 - off work 1 year , bad neck injury (motocross)
1976-2003 - work: K&B, Rite-Aid; quadraparesis
2003 - neck finally gave up, surgery and disability
2004-end of days - retirement, chronic neck & back,
can't do anything that's fun.
ain't life a b*tch.

BTW I've never flown, except on a Yamaha

lowfighter
03-26-2006, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by RxMan:
1940-45 - learning to walk/talk
1945-54 - Grade school
1954-58 - High School (the good days)
1959 - 1 year college
summer - got married (still am)
1960 - 1 year college
summer - daughter born
1961 - 1 year college
summer - flunked out, fishing and chess
1962 - work: petroleum and sugar cane jobs
summer - back to college, regret flunking out
1963 - 1 year college
summer - I've got to get my s**t together
1964 - 1 year college
summer - graduated B.S. Pharmacy/Pharmacology
1965-74 - work: Pharmacist, relief & K&B, son born
1975 - off work 1 year , bad neck injury (motocross)
1976-2003 - work: K&B, Rite-Aid; quadraparesis
2003 - neck finally gave up, surgery and disability
2004-end of days - retirement, chronic neck & back,
can't do anything that's fun.
ain't life a b*tch.

BTW I've never flown, except on a Yamaha

All the best, mission builder http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Professor_1942
03-26-2006, 10:09 PM
I'm surprised to see so many musicians here! I have a degree in music (UBC, 1997) and have spent the last decade teaching and playing for a really crappy living. :P

But that has gotten really old, and lately I am more preoccupied with computer stuff and gradually working away at a diploma in computer systems tech... I hope to have more than $10 in the bank by the time I'm 40 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

diomedes33
03-26-2006, 10:31 PM
Graduated with my BS in Aerospace Engineering and about 3/4 of a degree in Computer Software Engineering. Yeah I changed my mind a year before I graduated http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

I plan to go back and finish the degree and masters at some point, but now its time to find a job.

slo_1_2_3
03-26-2006, 10:44 PM
Man theres a wide variety of educations here sme with masters degree's some 3rd grade droppers some musicians, well I would still like some job in aviation ,but I can play a radio and I don't know if I'll be able to graduate highschool even.I was watching a crop dusters buz around for a couple of hours today http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c110/slo123/z.jpg and thought wow now there is a satisfying job, Does anyone have any idea of how you would land a job like that? Yeah I know it would ake a few years off my life with all those power lines and trees and that crazy good flying but well hey is it quality of life in years or number of the years you have?
I would have to go with the first. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

achtung2004
03-27-2006, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Grey_Mouser67:
Intersting thread....a wide variety of personalities no doubt and it never ceases to amaze me how many older and formally educated folks find their way to avaiation sims....

I have a Forest Products degree from Purdue University and currently manage a plywood mill. Very similar to the proverbial "delta wood"!



GO BOILERS!! Class of 1995

danjama
03-27-2006, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Doolittle81:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
..... Im still not sure which i should go for and the decidion is really stressing me out. I just dont know what i want to do, worrying at this stage of the year. Hell, i dont even know for sure if i want to go to University! How does anyone decide what they want to do, or what to do next....

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif Some people literally Flip a Coin! Let Karma make the decision! Am I serious??? I think so. I wrestled with such decisions thoughout my life (I'm OLD...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif)...I made the right decisions, I think...everything worked out very well....BUT, who knows what might have happened had I taken a different path??? Icould have been a King! I'd recommend: don't stress out...go with the flow...make your best choice, then go forward with it....you've got LOTS of flexibility ahead of you in life to find your way, and change your path if need be..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

I agree with him Dan. I'm 39 and still don't know what I wanna be when I grow up,.......maybe taller. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

As you might have read earlier, I'm a drop out.

I was a straight "A" student until grade 7, although I rarely showed up at school. I had been skipping school since the first day of kindergarten. By grade 7 the system became efficient enough to track my movements. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Then I really became rebellious and figured keeping the lowest possible average was the best way to punish the authorities(mom and dad). At 14 I had had enough and dropped out. 14 and free? Hmmm, try to get a job at 14.

At 15 I was sent to a psychologist for testing. This time I agreed cause I started to realize there must be a problem somewhere. After a few week of constant testing it was decided that I was bored with school. The doctors claimed that I was basically a genius and that school wasn't enough for me. Sounds good right? Wrong.

These morons gave me the choice of what I wanted to do. At 15 I was supposed to make a decision about the rest of my life. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I decided I wanted to be an auto mechanic. By 15 I had already rebuilt diesel engines in my father's fleet. I had been doing the fleet maintanance since I was about 10. I owned my first car at 12 and at 15 I may have been intellegent but I definitely wasn`t socially developed enough for an adult college. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Anyways, auto mechanics bored me within the first month. I dropped out again. I tried Drafting and mechanical drawings but I had already developed my skills far beyond what they were teaching. I dropped out. Then I went for machinist but found that to be boring also. Same fate for welding.

Dude, I've had many different jobs such as graphic design, truck driver, sailor, teacher, restaurant manager, copy writer, machine technicial and construction just to name a few. My suggestion would be to study something that interests you, even if it's not what you want for a career. While you are studying you will find many opportunities and as Doolittle pointed out, many paths. But you must stick with it even if you do change your paths. If it gets boring, do it anyway.

Now I'm 39 and finally figured out what I want to do. Don't pressure yourself with making the right decision. Make a useful decision.

Fritz(Dan's illegal guardian) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I appreciate the guidance/advice fellas, i really do! I am sort of split between trying my luck at University or going strait into the Military (RAF or Army) at this point....If i go Uni, i have decided i want to give myself a go at Aeronautical Engineering, on the basis that if i cant fly, i want to get into the industry someway, and knowing the ins and outs of planes is as near to piloting as possible in my book. The problem is i know nothing about it, if i fail ill be in debt and then what?! I know i know, i wont know until i try, go for it and all that, but its easier said than done as we all know.

The other option (though not the only one obviously, lets not limit myself here Dan) is to join the Army as infantry. I have assured myself over and over that Infantry is a great way to meet new people, travel the world and do my bit for the country. The problem here is that i dont want to be disapointed, by wasting 12 years of my life when it could be 12 years spent breaking into the aviation industry.

Of course i could always attempt to join the RAF as a pilot or aircraft engineer, but these are alot harder to get into and therefore will probably only happen Post-Uni....I guess what im trying to say is, ive realised i have to make a decision and it doesnt have to be limited to the choices mentioned above, but that doesnt make it any easier, and my mind is splitting in so many different directions http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

I need a paracetamol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

What do you guys reckon on this? Maybe i should just flip a damn coin, it would make it alot easier, say heads for Uni and tails for Army?! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Hey Fritz, what is it you decided you want to do?

And hey Doolittle, i am bettin its http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif to be old eh? I cant wait!

SnapdLikeAMutha
03-27-2006, 01:24 PM
Why infantry? If you are considering Aero Eng then presumably you have at least some aptitude in Maths and Physics, in which case an obvious place to look for army careers would be REME or possibly RCS.

You might also be able to get a uni sponsorship/bursary from the Army

danjama
03-27-2006, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by SnapdLikeAMutha:
Why infantry? If you are considering Aero Eng then presumably you have at least some aptitude in Maths and Physics, in which case an obvious place to look for army careers would be REME or possibly RCS.

You might also be able to get a uni sponsorship/bursary from the Army

Well, im really not wanting to go down the bursarys/grants route in case its not what i want do do once ive finished my University course, in which case id be in debt.

I pick Infantry because i figure that is the most interesting field. That is "where the most action is" although that sounds really quite disrespectful, i just dont know how else to put it. I would rather be on the frontlines waiting for orders and leading men or being lead than fixing up vehicles. Again, i wouldnt want to enter the REME's because i really have little to no interest in vehicle engineering, and same for helo's, so the Air Corps is out of the question for me too. If i was going to do any kind of engineering it would be aircraft. I think for me, it is the fear that, if i take one route, i may regret not taking the other and vice versa, its really a lose lose situation until i can sort out what i wanna do for definate. Thanks for trying to help out though, i really do appreciate it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Amidst all of this confusion im going through, i do have one clear goal though: earn money to fly! I dont care if it takes me ten, twenty or thirty years to save the money, i will get my license. This thought always gives me comfort when i feel lost. Its a long way off but it means alot.

SnapdLikeAMutha
03-27-2006, 02:47 PM
Remember there's action in the other branches though. Everyone in the Army is trained as a soldier, while they don't get quite the same training as infantry (eg MILANs, close quarters stuff etc) they still participate in excercises, armed patrols while on tour and things like that. They're just not expected to leap out of a Warrior into a hail of gunfire http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The other thing to bear in mind (which you have probably been told a thousand times anyway) is that a career in HM forces will look VERY good on a CV or job application (once you leave). If you can learn a trade in the forces and then transfer that to civvy street, you will be pretty much set.

blakduk
03-27-2006, 09:01 PM
My advice to anyone is 'seize the chances that life offers you'. It's better to regret a chance you took that didnt work out than to wonder what might have been.
As for the original post about 'educational background'- the older you get the more you realise it means f***-all.
I barely scraped through high-school. It's the wrong age to try and teach young men when all they can think about is women, motorbikes, women, alcohol, women, planes, women, explosives, women, rugby, women, women, women..... women.
I did lots of labouring and semi-skilled jobs for a couple of years. It wasnt until i hit my early 20's that i went back to education again. I'd studied physics, chemistry, math originally in high school but i went back to do fine-arts. I ended up spending 4 years at university with a bad attitude, too many pyschoactive substances, and a lot of oil paint trying to be the next artistic wonder of the late 20th century (My final dissertation argued that art died in the 1930's- i was dissillusioned by the end http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif). Back then in Australia university education was almost free- i managed by doing lots of labouring and pub work.
I did various things after that finished and eventually started working in a psychiatric hospital as an attendant. I only intended to do that for a few months until i could get my motorbike back into proper working order- and now here i am all these years later still working in psychiatry. It's the only job that's held my interest for more than a few months- now most of my time is spent educating other clinicians about psychiatry. They always ask me in my lectures 'How did you decide to work in this field?'.
I always reply 'It just happened. I never mapped out a career, i just took opportunities as they came and followed my interests'.
A lot of young people these days are taught very early in life to map out a career, and they fear failing exams believing this will cause their life to lose meaning. It won't.
This is not an excuse for laziness, but fear of failure should not preclude a person from making an attempt.
Don't get too hung-up on what education a person has. Formal education is our culture's way of acknowledging academic achievement. It doesnt necessarily indicate a person's wisdom or even their knowledge. One thing tertiary education quickly shows you is you have to show your lecturers and tutors that you can prove yourself to them. If their egos are fragile you dare not disagree with them. Most are pretty good and can acknowledge disagreement if you argue well.
I always aim to judge a person by the content of their character, not by the colour of their resume (apologies to Martin Luther King for paraphrasing badly)

Zeus-cat
03-27-2006, 09:51 PM
From blakduk,


Don't get too hung-up on what education a person has. Formal education is our culture's way of acknowledging academic achievement. It doesnt necessarily indicate a person's wisdom or even their knowledge.

You nailed that. I have 3 college degrees and the best boss I ever had in the corporate world didn't even have a college degree. What he did have was a head full of business smarts and the traits of a true leader. Much of his leadership came from his time in the US Marines.

The dimwits running the corporation got rid of him because he didn't have a college degree. I think they got rid of him because he was so much better than they were and he didn't even have a BS degree. Fortunately, he is making a ton of money being a consultant.

The_Yu
03-27-2006, 10:32 PM
Currently pursuing Honours BSc in Medical Physics... glad to see other physicists/mathematicians here!

BM357_TinMan
03-27-2006, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by Steven190:
A degree in Mechiniacl Engineering-BSME
Southern Illinois University

Howdy fellow MVC school mate. I am currently about 1 year away from a BSME at Wichita State University (Hopefully May 07).

I was pulling for the Salukis and was sad to see them get beat in the first round.

danjama
03-28-2006, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by SnapdLikeAMutha:
Remember there's action in the other branches though. Everyone in the Army is trained as a soldier, while they don't get quite the same training as infantry (eg MILANs, close quarters stuff etc) they still participate in excercises, armed patrols while on tour and things like that. They're just not expected to leap out of a Warrior into a hail of gunfire http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The other thing to bear in mind (which you have probably been told a thousand times anyway) is that a career in HM forces will look VERY good on a CV or job application (once you leave). If you can learn a trade in the forces and then transfer that to civvy street, you will be pretty much set.

I've actually never been told that but i assumed it, im guessing the better you perform and gain recognition/promotion, the more impressive this will look to employers when you come out. As for learning a trade, i guess that is a HUGE benefit of going into the engineering outfits, i will probably give it some thought as it would be nice to gain qualifications too.

By the way Blakduk, great post http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Pirschjaeger
03-28-2006, 05:23 AM
Hi Dan,

I would advise you to go military for a little while. You'll learn a lot and have the chance to save money if you decide to go to uni.

IMO, I think military should be mandatory before uni. How many people actually do what they studied? Not many.

Get some life experience and then it will become more clearer to you.

As for me, I'm in international business. I have my own company and do my own thing. No school could have taught me what I am doing. I can also change my format or explore new fields as I wish. I'm becoming very interested in alternative energies. Last year I sold ca.400 windmills (400 megawatts) to China. Life experiences created the opportunity for me.

SnapdLikeAMutha
03-28-2006, 06:38 AM
I almost forgot the most important piece of advice of all, which is to not put too much truck in the advice of random strangers on internet forums http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

danjama
03-28-2006, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Hi Dan,

I would advise you to go military for a little while. You'll learn a lot and have the chance to save money if you decide to go to uni.

IMO, I think military should be mandatory before uni. How many people actually do what they studied? Not many.

Get some life experience and then it will become more clearer to you.

As for me, I'm in international business. I have my own company and do my own thing. No school could have taught me what I am doing. I can also change my format or explore new fields as I wish. I'm becoming very interested in alternative energies. Last year I sold ca.400 windmills (400 megawatts) to China. Life experiences created the opportunity for me.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

blakduk
03-28-2006, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by SnapdLikeAMutha:
I almost forgot the most important piece of advice of all, which is to not put too much truck in the advice of random strangers on internet forums http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif Well noted.
Most of us are quite good at analysing other people's lives and helping them sort out what they should do..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Live life, allow yourself to be happy.

Haigotron
03-28-2006, 08:34 PM
well i gotta admit, this puny thread has grown into a very philosophical round table, and it actually made me think alot!

spooky http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

FlatSpinMan
03-29-2006, 07:19 AM
For what it's worth, Danjama, I think getting uni out of the way early on is a good thing.

Even if you don't end up working in the field that you study, what you do have at the end of it is a little piece of paper that can let you get your foot in at least a few doors. Life experience builds up no matter what it is that you do so that will take care of itself.

Formal education doesn't make you better than anybody else but it CAN provide you with a lot of opportunities you wouldn't otherwise get. University life can be a lot of fun,too.
But if you go, study properly, not half-arsed like many uncertain students do (myself included.

Sturm_Williger
03-29-2006, 07:41 AM
Yep. I went to Uni after school.

And dropped out in third year. Good thing too, 'cos I don't think I would have been happy doing what I studied. In fact, it was only after I'd dropped out that I realised what I SHOULD have studied.

But no matter, I had heaps of fun at Uni and learned a lot of other stuff which came in handy. In the end, I became a programmer simply because I could think that way. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LStarosta
03-29-2006, 07:45 AM
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Ishmael932
03-29-2006, 10:26 PM
Ok, I'll weigh in

Born Ventura California as a beach bum in 1954 as the son & grandson of merchant seamen.

Grew up in Ventura, Grass Valley and Benicia, CA. In Benicia, I used to sell the local newspapers in the same bar where Jack London hung out in 1900 in his days on the Fish Patrol. Took every math & Science course in high school, through Calculus & Physics, graduating in 1972.

Received my Acceptance letter to Humboldt State majoring in Oceanography and my Draft Lottery number of 5 on the same day.

Joined US Navy 1972. Spent 6 years as a sonarman hunting the great steel whales(found 7 confirmed russian subs). Specialty was Anti-sub & anti-ship weapons systems. Semi-circumnavigated the globe in both directions. Discharged honorably in 1978.

Spent last 30 odd years working telecommunications for companies large & small. Maintained phone service out of San Francisco during Loma Prieta Quake in 1989 for A.T.&T. Got Presidential award and laid off 3 months later. Decided helping people talk to each other was more morally satisfying than helping them kill each other.

Currently maintain microwave radio links on the mountaintops of New Mexico(perfect job for a loner like me). Only have flown virtually, used to do plane guard details for Aircraft Carriers.

Other interests include amateur historian & writer, Brother of the Ancient & Honorable Order of E. Clampus Vitus(a society of drunken historians or historic drunks). I have posted some of my father's stories here under the title,"Tales of the Inadvertent Pacifist". Currently co-manage with my wife the top-rated writing critique group on the Internet as reported by Writer's Digest Magazine for the past 2 years(it's been in existance for only 2 years).

mortoma
04-01-2006, 08:46 PM
Iffin yoo fokes is sew edgeecated hows come yall caint rite reel gude insglisch?? Ide writely like too knoe. pleese be a fixin ta explane ta me.

Taylortony
04-01-2006, 09:20 PM
Errrr EX RAF Engineer (Aircraft Technician Propulsion)
Now Chief Engineer.... Engineering Manager.... CAA Nominated Engineer... A and C Licensed Engineer Covering all Piston Engines (from the biggest Radial or watercooled engine down to the smallest imaginable engine) and Airframes as well as wigglies (electrics)...... Tend to do smaller stuff these days for a quiet life, but used to do big stuff and specialise in rebuilding / Sheet metal working..... there are several Aircraft flying these days that had crashed big time and were totally written off that I rebuilt as a fill in job when I was quiet http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

That gives me the biggest kick, to take a wing that is bent up at some 90 degrees, punctured and distorted without a single part on it straight... respar it, replace all the ribs etc and reskin it making sure it is accurate to the minute and seeing the thing lift off and fly perfectly straight and level with no vices...........

Odd thing with Aircraft trades is you have to do everything and then some, can even respray them if needed.................... runs and all http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-02-2006, 07:55 AM
I actually ignored this thread until now, but in a slight bit of boredom took a peak. I guess I assumed this would be, mostly, a self-serving opportunity for peeps to blow their own...erm...horn and am pleasantly surprised to see it's quite the opposite.

I'll toss out my credentials...for what it's worth.

BS from THE University of Texas, Austin: major in physics, minor in Chem. (really never used any of it in my current profession of 22 years though...go figure).

Graduate degree business management from UCF (hehe. Went back after 18 years to 'improve my marketability".

Currently a department manager at a large east coast hospital that, for the last 10 years, has been a dream job for me....and my family.

In between, I dabbled as a professional golfer AND got my private pilot's license.

If I had my choice, though, I'd be a better father to my 5 kids (they all say I'm a good one 'as is' but I see so much room for improvement ) and supplement that with as much fishing-time as possible with an occassional online foray into the not-so-friendly skies of PFm.


TB

XyZspineZyX
04-02-2006, 08:28 AM
I'm an aircraft mechanic, actually an apprentice. Wasnt able to find a job as a grease monkey, so now I answer the phone for 27k a year for a cable/internet/phone company.