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John_Stag
12-29-2004, 03:20 AM
I WANT perfect landscape and water, but don't have incredibly large amounts of cash to spend. What's the NVIDIA card you'd recomend for the job, if it was strapped onto an Athlon 3000 XP?


Thanks in advance.

John_Stag
12-29-2004, 03:20 AM
I WANT perfect landscape and water, but don't have incredibly large amounts of cash to spend. What's the NVIDIA card you'd recomend for the job, if it was strapped onto an Athlon 3000 XP?


Thanks in advance.

TgD Thunderbolt56
12-29-2004, 06:42 AM
The lowest NV card I'd suggest at this point is a 6800GT. I haven't seen enough tests on the 6600 series yet to say how they'll perform in FB, but all indications are they'll run a bit faster than a 9800 pro.

TB

superjohnny
12-29-2004, 07:13 AM
I have a 3000XP with 1GB RAM and my video card is an FX5950 Ultra 256MB. It works absolutely superb. As this is now an "old" generation card you should be able to pick them up quite cheap now.
Thought about a new 6800 but would have to get a new power supply as well, but hey the 5950 is more than adequate.

SlickStick
12-29-2004, 07:22 AM
6800GT is around $400 and would not be maxed by your XP 3000, however, if you have that much to spend, it would be a good investment for the future and an Athlon64 upgrade. If you only want to spend half of that, but get great PF performance that is comparable speed-wise to 9800PRO and 9800XT, then you might want to step down to this card:

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/geforce_6600_gt_overclocked/

I've been rethinking my own vid card purchase recently, and the 6600GT, although only 8 pipelines and 128-bit memory interface, keeps good speed with the other ~$200 cards like the 9800PRO, yet has newer features like the latest NVIDIA shaders.

I'm a $200.00 vid card kind-of-guy and find that the $200.00 price range offers some great bang for the buck. I'm still researching a bit, but right now looking at:

9800PRO - 256-bit - 128MB - $210.00

6600GT - 128-bit - 128MB - $215.00

Plus, comparing some of the other ATI flavors of X700s and such. There are many good cards in the $200 price range, but some have slower memory interface 128-bit vs 256-bit. The 6600GT has only 128-bit, but is clocked high and keeps good pace with the 9800XT until the 1600x1200 mark.

malkuth
12-29-2004, 08:22 AM
For cost go for the 6600Gt.

Look at this. It doesnt beform bad and you can get it for under 200 for PCI Express. About 220 for AGP.

Graphics comparison (http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041222/vga_charts-03.html)

Oh ps dont confuse the 6600 GT and the 6600GT SLI the SLI is dual 6600GTs.

Bearcat99
12-29-2004, 08:27 AM
Yeah with your processor the 6600 or the 9800Pro wouldbe a good bet. I just got a 6800GT only because I was able to get it for a phenomial price.

ExpendableT
12-29-2004, 08:41 AM
I'd highly recommend the 6800 GT OC from BFG. It's $400 at Best Buy. You'll be much happier with a 6800 GT OC than the 6600.

ZG77_Nagual
12-29-2004, 08:45 AM
6600gt rocks. I have on on a 3 gig intel system.
It's far and away the best bang for the buck on the market.

John_Stag
12-29-2004, 08:52 AM
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Guess the consensus is the 6600GT. The 6800 is a bit too high priced for my budget just yet.

Thanks for the feedback Gentlemen.

Soak_
12-29-2004, 09:08 AM
I too have a BFG 6800GT 256mb card and I'm very satisfied with 75 FPS in the cockpit with perfect settings. Of course having a P4 3.0 Gig 800FB and 1Gig DDR 3200 helps.
The setup I use is at:
http://www.airwarfare.com/tech/graphicsil2.htm#001

Towndog_31stFG
12-29-2004, 09:26 AM
Another choice might be the reg 6800. Sometimes you can find them for around $250. I bought a BFG 6800oc for $225 and was able to unlock all 16 pipes using rivatuner.Not all cards will unlock but sometimes you get lucky and can. This card works great for me running xp3200. Also the PSU req aren't as high. Only drawback is it has only 128 memory.

BaldieJr
12-29-2004, 10:29 AM
FX5700 Ultra running perfect: 1280x1024x32 at 30 fps.

WUAF_Black-Rose
12-29-2004, 10:34 AM
GeforceTi 4200 128meg running perfect: 800x600 2xAA... hehe

anyway, i've bought a ASUS V9999 6800GT (128meg...)! Delivery date is tomorrow! i'll post some screenshot tomorrow: Ti4200 VS 6800GT ....!

ZG77_Nagual
12-29-2004, 10:58 AM
FYI - I tested the 6800gt (mine was $180us) against a 9800xt (heavily overclocked) Frame rates are allmost identical but image quality is superior with the 6600gt - the water is MUCH better. You can run fine in perfect mode but turn the settings down in the confi.ini to get the best performance.

Bearcat99
12-29-2004, 11:06 AM
Hey Nag you mentioned 2 different cards.... which one did you get for $180 the 6600 or the 6800.... I got my 6800GT256OCd for $266US. Thats the only reason I bought it because I was able to get it so very cheaply. The card has a lifetime warranty.

aladarhsu
12-29-2004, 06:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Soak_:
I too have a BFG 6800GT 256mb card and I'm very satisfied with 75 FPS in the cockpit with perfect settings. Of course having a P4 3.0 Gig 800FB and 1Gig DDR 3200 helps.
The setup I use is at:
http://www.airwarfare.com/tech/graphicsil2.htm#001 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My system is P4 3.0G, RAM:2G, double channel mode, graphic card:6800GT. Do you think adding RAM from 1G to 2G can really improving FPS obviously in IL2FB+AEP+PF game. How about adding RAM from 2G to 3G, is it necessory?

fordfan25
12-29-2004, 06:55 PM
i had a 6800gt bfg. and returned it to bestbuy. for 400 bucks i was not impressed. but it just depends on what you expect for your money. all i can recommend is what im going to do. get a 6600gt or wait for the next round of cards. if you get a 6600gt now youll have to replace it sooner than if ya got a 6800gt. but in 2 years when its time to upgrade youll need to upgrade you whole system anyway and in two years preaty much every MOBO will be pciE so that 6800gt will be useless to you. just something to think about. basicly if your not going to be running games in real high res then a 6600gt will be about right. now if you have a large monitor and are going to be useing those super high res and aa settings then a 6800gt might be a better way to go.

fordfan25
12-29-2004, 06:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by aladarhsu:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Soak_:
I too have a BFG 6800GT 256mb card and I'm very satisfied with 75 FPS in the cockpit with perfect settings. Of course having a P4 3.0 Gig 800FB and 1Gig DDR 3200 helps.
The setup I use is at:
http://www.airwarfare.com/tech/graphicsil2.htm#001 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My system is P4 3.0G, RAM:2G, double channel mode, graphic card:6800GT. Do you think adding RAM from 1G to 2G can really improving FPS obviously in IL2FB+AEP+PF game. How about adding RAM from 2G to 3G, is it necessory? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

adding more ram is not going to give you better FPS not when you already have 1 gig. it may help take out a few stutters now and then maby

WUAF_Black-Rose
12-29-2004, 07:13 PM
More ram = faster loading...

heywooood
12-29-2004, 08:29 PM
6600gt for $200 works great. save your money for the next generation pci express cards coming soon....

more RAM is never a bad thing...

John_Stag
12-29-2004, 10:54 PM
Problem with that Mr. H, is that the upgrade wouldn't just involve a PCIe card; it would involve a new motherboard to accept it; a new processor, because I can't see anyone producing MoBo for a last generation processor; possibly new memory too.

It's on the books for a subsequent upgrade, but I'm going to get my money's worth out of my present rig first.

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heywooood
12-29-2004, 11:14 PM
Mr. H?...

ofcourse the pci-x cards will require a pci-x mobo...thats why I suggest the 6600gt for now.

maybe I should have been more detailed than I was, but you already seem to know that the board and card need to be compatible.

FI_Macca44
12-30-2004, 12:31 AM
I'm going probably to buy GeForce 6800GT Asus V9999GT Asus 128MB which costs circa 270 bucks.Real bargain, I supose.And the card is quite goodhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

John_Stag
12-30-2004, 04:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by heywooood:
Mr. H?...

ofcourse the pci-x cards will require a pci-x mobo...thats why I suggest the 6600gt for now.

maybe I should have been more detailed than I was, but you already seem to know that the board and card need to be compatible. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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at_evans
12-30-2004, 09:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ExpendableT:
I'd highly recommend the 6800 GT OC from BFG. It's $400 at Best Buy. You'll be much happier with a 6800 GT OC than the 6600. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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