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ARCHIE_CALVERT
05-22-2006, 04:35 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/AircraftImages01/BPA0A.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/AircraftImages01/BPA0B.jpg
...Well some of them anyway... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/AircraftImages01/BPA00.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/AircraftImages01/BPA01.jpg

zeno303
05-22-2006, 05:42 PM
The Defiant has long had my vote for "Worst Aircraft of WWII."

Could something that miss-guided be produced today?

Wellllllll........With the right pull in Congress..................Yeah!

WTE_Galway
05-22-2006, 07:52 PM
The defiant actually made a good night fighter.


Apparently a favourite trick was to stalk the german bombers back to France and catch them on the long landing run with everything dirty, flaps out and gear down. The defiant would fly under the heinkel or ju88 and then pop up directly in front and the turrent gunner would shoot the pilot in the face before he realised whjat was happening..

ImpStarDuece
05-22-2006, 08:17 PM
Does anyone else here think that the Defiant design might of made an excellent single seat fighter-bomber?

It was such a clean and neat design: stressed skin, all metal construction with smaller frontal area than the Hurricane.

If you strip out the turret and added a rear bomb-cell, you could probably tote 1000lbs around fairly easily.

Frantish
05-22-2006, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by zeno303:
The Defiant has long had my vote for "Worst Aircraft of WWII."


Worse then Definat:
He-177
Ar-240
Me-210

bunch of allies types too, including
P-39 (bad tendancy to snap stall after ammo depleted)
P-59

major_setback
05-23-2006, 01:18 AM
Does anyone else here think that the Defiant design might of made an excellent single seat fighter-bomber?



There was a trial version of it:

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/uk/boulton_paul/defiant/Defiant.htm

"Single seater: Projected conversion with turret space faired over and armament of two 0.303 machine guns in each wing. Mock-up up built by converting first prototype, but no production.
Defiant Trainer: Projected dual-control trainer version with turret replaced by second cockpit. Design work stopped when 80% complete.

P.94 version: Project for improved single-seat fighter version with Merkin XX engine, cut-down rear fuselage and wings equipped for 12 machine guns or four 20 mm cannon + 4 machine guns. "


Very pretty too:

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/uk/boulton_paul/defiant/defiant-bpa4.jpg

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/uk/boulton_paul/defiant/defiant-bpa5.jpg

Replica defiant:

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/uk/boulton_paul/defiant/Defiant.htm

MrBlueSky1960
05-23-2006, 05:10 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Sqd L D.H.Clark wrote a book called 'What were they like to fly' in which is a little story about the 'Bloddy' Defiant... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif I'll post it when I can, its a nice read.

ForkTailedDevil
05-23-2006, 06:36 AM
Call me crazy but I loved the Defiant as a kid. In fact I built a model of one when I was about 12 but I had dummy wing guns since I had felt it needed them.

Fox_3
05-23-2006, 09:53 AM
Do you know what Boulton and Paul do now? They specialise in making wooden staircases, windows, and doors.

ARCHIE_CALVERT
05-23-2006, 01:53 PM
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Secudus/AircraftImages01/BPDBtF.jpg