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ElAurens
04-06-2009, 05:21 PM
The P40 E owned and flown by Robert Baranaskas, the aircraft that appears in my sig pic, crashed off of Fire Island NY on Sunday afternoon, taking the life of the pilot.

http://www.aero-news.net/news/...be027581ae&Dynamic=1 (http://www.aero-news.net/news/sport.cfm?ContentBlockID=77d1818c-c585-40bd-9f2a-02be027581ae&Dynamic=1)

http://www.warbirdsoverlongisland.com/images/Gallery/warhawk/gal12.jpg

A sad day.

RPMcMurphy
04-06-2009, 05:25 PM
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danjama
04-06-2009, 05:41 PM
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Choctaw111
04-06-2009, 06:27 PM
Oh, man. That's terrible. This kind of thing happens but is happening far too often lately. What is going on?

julian265
04-06-2009, 07:56 PM
I really question the need for low speed aerobatics whilst close to the ground, especially in these rare aircraft, which weren't designed for it.

slipBall
04-06-2009, 08:49 PM
Since I work those water's, I have seen the aircraft on various occasions. Not sure why he would go up in 45+ gale winds...my heart goes out for his family, and may he R.I.P.

R_Target
04-06-2009, 09:39 PM
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X32Wright
04-06-2009, 10:10 PM
OMG!!! He was probably practicing for the Jones Beach Airshow for the Summer!!!

http://www.jonesbeachairshow.com/

I took shots of this plane 2 years back:


http://farm1.static.flickr.com...446_e6da8a0af9_o.jpg (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/189/523581446_e6da8a0af9_o.jpg)

2nd plane from the left. He 'left the bounds of earth and touched the face of God' http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

HayateAce
04-06-2009, 10:28 PM
Sickening loss.

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JG52Uther
04-07-2009, 02:52 AM
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slipBall
04-07-2009, 04:16 AM
Here is some local news coverage on this terrible event
http://www.newsday.com/news/lo...pr06,0,7342193.story (http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ny-libara0712625372apr06,0,7342193.story)

general_kalle
04-07-2009, 07:09 AM
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RIP pilot
a sad loss.

McHilt
04-07-2009, 07:43 AM
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BigKahuna_GS
04-07-2009, 09:22 AM
"Bob's generation were the guys who originally started flying warbirds again and got them into great shape," Goltzer said. "And he passed it on to his son. That kind of legacy is very important."



P38 day was over the weekend at "Planes of Fame" in Chino. They had about a dozen WW2 P38 pilots there. There was a start up and demo flight of their P38J. Whenever there is a demo flight of the P38, I can't help but think of Jeff Ethell. The really tough part is the family member that has to agonize in despair while watching a loved one auger in.

Another tragic loss.
RIP and peace to his family.

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Wildnoob
04-07-2009, 09:28 AM
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Hookecho
04-07-2009, 09:30 AM
crap...that sucks. Prayers to the family

HayateAce
04-07-2009, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by 609IAP_Kahuna:
"Bob's generation were the guys who originally started flying warbirds again and got them into great shape," Goltzer said. "And he passed it on to his son. That kind of legacy is very important."



P38 day was over the weekend at "Planes of Fame" in Chino. They had about a dozen WW2 P38 pilots there. There was a start up and demo flight of their P38J. Whenever there is a demo flight of the P38, I can't help but think of Jeff Ethell. The really tough part is the family member that has to agonize in despair while watching a loved one auger in.

Another tragic loss.
RIP and peace to his family.

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+1

Another irony contained in this story is that Jeff's father Ervin Ethell survived WWII flying P38's, including one very close call...only to witness the loss of his son flying that very aircraft. Bikes and airplanes eventually go down, it is a mathematical certainty.

Wildnoob
04-07-2009, 10:34 AM
not so long ago we also lost a soon of a P-38 pilot. if I'm not wrong who also had flow the aicraft as a civilian in the present. I saw a video of him flying in a P-38. he was really nice like mister Robert Baranaskas. but he not died while was flying the Ligthing or any other warbird if I remember (still have to confirm this info). can't belive I forgot the cause of his dead.

anyway damm, why these things happen. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Crash_Moses
04-07-2009, 10:50 AM
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BillyTheKid_22
04-07-2009, 03:56 PM
Very http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif!

wheelsup_cavu
04-07-2009, 10:45 PM
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Very sad news.

Wheelsup

Enforcer572005
04-11-2009, 01:14 AM
This is always terrible, and We should appreciate the efforts and expense these guys go to so they stay in the air for us to see.

If Jeff Ethell can go in, anyone can. It's the nature of the beast. These things are very dangerous to fly, even in peacetime. There were almost as many lost to "operational losses", which is accidents, weather, etc, totally unrelated to combat, as to actual battle. You can't fly so many of these so much without expecting to lose some.

That said, there are often very avoidable reasons for many of these incidents. I photographed a T-28 crashing in Fla back in 89 because he was doing low level aerobatics in a machine famous for being slow to pull out (my also instructed in them in the 50s). This was in a crosswind gusting up to 30 knts.

It doesn't make it any easier, especially when it's one this rare.

Clipper_51
04-12-2009, 06:56 PM
One of the joys of living on Long Island, NY is to be so close to some great aviation-related activities and organisations. I live 5 miles from Republic Airport, and for the past 15 years have witnessed countless Warbirds fly over my house during fly-ins and fly-outs from Republic (home of the American Airpower museum) around the typical American holidays. I've seen them all it seems, P-47's, Spit's, B-17', etc.

Even more interesting were my sightings of a lone P-40, flying over Long Island on "off" occasions. I've seen it for years. Sometimes it was accompanied by a P-51, but not always. Many of us enthusiasts knew both planes were local Warbirds.

I would always point each of them out to my young sons when we would see them flying over the beach or a local mall. "That's a P-40," I would say. "It was a very important part of both your Grandads' war." They would love to see them fly by. I remember three years ago seeing the P-40 dive and zoom past the Jones Beach water tower at 2500' during the airshow. It really seemed to be the hottest ship of the group at that altitude (the others being a P-51, P-47 and F4U). It seemed to dive so quickly!

I told my boys about what happened tonight and asked them to say a prayer. Salute Mr. Baranaskas. My boys and I will miss you.