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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 05:41 AM
In reading many of these threads including the flame wars going on I am truly amazed at some of the comments on the basis of nationality and race. These often become confused with one another.

For one thing, many or most countries on this earth are not purely made up of one race of human beings. To say that I am part Austrian, Dutch, Japanese, etc, etc. really does not say much today. As old as the human race is there is much genetic diversity, even in cultures that have been mostly isolated for a long period.

Furthermore, to say you are part American is an extreme case of this misconception. What exactly does this mean as well. Americans are a mix of ethnic and racial groups.

An American could have ethnic roots from any corner of the world. Originally, the Paleo Indians inhabited much of North and South America, having crossed the artic land bridge during the last ice age. These settlers formed the basic cultures that existed for quite some time.

Along came the European explorers, although it is argued that they were not actually the first to travel to the America's. Most of the European countries that had developed their seagoing ability eventually visited or settled parts of the America's. The English, French, Dutch, German, Spanish, Portugese, you name it, they all came here and contributed to what we have today.

There was a time when, during the developement of the United States for instance, that our national language could have easily been German. Many of the settlers here were of German speaking peoples. English was chosen over German for various reasons, but a common language was needed to make the whole idea work.

The United States is a direct result of the need or desire for many countries, cultures, ethnicities, etc. to expand their boundaries.

So, in a nutshell, we are all part of the human race and should learn to get along.

XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 05:41 AM
In reading many of these threads including the flame wars going on I am truly amazed at some of the comments on the basis of nationality and race. These often become confused with one another.

For one thing, many or most countries on this earth are not purely made up of one race of human beings. To say that I am part Austrian, Dutch, Japanese, etc, etc. really does not say much today. As old as the human race is there is much genetic diversity, even in cultures that have been mostly isolated for a long period.

Furthermore, to say you are part American is an extreme case of this misconception. What exactly does this mean as well. Americans are a mix of ethnic and racial groups.

An American could have ethnic roots from any corner of the world. Originally, the Paleo Indians inhabited much of North and South America, having crossed the artic land bridge during the last ice age. These settlers formed the basic cultures that existed for quite some time.

Along came the European explorers, although it is argued that they were not actually the first to travel to the America's. Most of the European countries that had developed their seagoing ability eventually visited or settled parts of the America's. The English, French, Dutch, German, Spanish, Portugese, you name it, they all came here and contributed to what we have today.

There was a time when, during the developement of the United States for instance, that our national language could have easily been German. Many of the settlers here were of German speaking peoples. English was chosen over German for various reasons, but a common language was needed to make the whole idea work.

The United States is a direct result of the need or desire for many countries, cultures, ethnicities, etc. to expand their boundaries.

So, in a nutshell, we are all part of the human race and should learn to get along.

XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 05:44 AM
Could not agree more...

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 06:03 AM
Nationalism is a very powerful tool used by the state to control and induce a national feeling of superiority, once this state is reached, in the majority of the population, it is very easy for the state to make, in the mind of the population, an enemy out of anybody it needs too, to fulfill an agenda.
We are constantly fed nothing but the positives about our own country whilst the opposit can be said for so called enemy countries.
Phycological control is the states number one weopon.
And we are in it's sights constantly.

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 06:13 AM
Ya got a bit too much Smirnov Popov....


we're making fun .... LOL

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eskimo-FHmod
11-09-2003, 06:16 AM
i m a german living overseas. you wouldnt believe how many people crack the "dont mention the war" joke.
it is still so hahaha funny hahaha after you ve heard it like a gazillion times.
sometimes i dont know what is worse, peoples lack of creativity or how they butcher fawlty towers.



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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 06:59 AM
As much genetic diversity exists within the human race, the differences are minor. Somewhere around 99.9% the same.

Everyone has a difference, but when it comes down to it...everything is the same http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 07:09 AM
eskimo-FHmod wrote:
- i m a german living overseas. you wouldnt believe
- how many people crack the "dont mention the war"
- joke.
- it is still so hahaha funny hahaha after you ve
- heard it like a gazillion times.
- sometimes i dont know what is worse, peoples lack of
- creativity or how they butcher fawlty towers.
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I don't agree /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif - I'm Dutch - WHEN YOU GONNA RETURN MY FATHERS BICICLE???


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Message Edited on 11/09/0307:13AM by lil_labbit

XyZspineZyX
11-09-2003, 07:12 AM
lil_labbit wrote:
- Ya got a bit too much Smirnov Popov....
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- we're making fun .... LOL


I thought it sounded more Penny Rimbaud /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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