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jensenpark
01-25-2008, 11:32 AM
Ok, we all know the stereotype of the dumb American tourist in Canada...

You know..."where's the igloos?" "Is that price in Canadian or US funds?"..."do you take credit cards up here?"

Never thought I'd see Australia join that group (or beat it for pure ignorance).

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080125/national/australia_cda_warning

some travel warnings from the Australian government:

- high threat of terrorism (bordering on the lawless, terrorist United States I guess)
- heavy snow, ice
- forest fires that can erupt "at any time." (No doubt set off by the heavy snow and ice).

British Columbia, in particular, was singled out as being in an active earthquake zone and "subject to avalanches" along with Alberta. (avalanches of burning forest fires maybe?)

What's scary is that the Oz government is putting this out.

BSS_Goat
01-25-2008, 11:42 AM
Sooooo, how do you plug in your PC in a frikkin igloo?

BSS_Goat
01-25-2008, 11:42 AM
'ey

DxyFlyr
01-25-2008, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by jensenpark:
..."where's the igloos?"...


Well?

BSS_Goat
01-25-2008, 11:45 AM
How do you eat that blubber....yeck.

DrHerb
01-25-2008, 11:52 AM
didnt you know.....Canadian's favourate dish (especially with men) is beaver? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

jadger
01-25-2008, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by DrHerb:
didnt you know.....Canadian's favourate dish (especially with men) is beaver? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I like beaver, maybe it's just because I'm Canadian, but that doesn't explain our low population http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

and as for "high threat of terrorism" are you forgetting about all those little buggers that throw snowballs at you, those kids are bloody terrorists.

Skunk_438RCAF
01-25-2008, 12:26 PM
When in Australia, canadians should not carry boxing gloves. It may offend the Kangaroo population. Also if you have a cold, do not suck on Halls mentholyptus cough drops, Koalas will track you down and claw your face off trying to get said cough drops for they eucalyptus content.

roybaty
01-25-2008, 12:28 PM
Whew thank God we aren't the only paranoid, ignorant English speaking country anymore http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif.

huggy87
01-25-2008, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by jensenpark:
Ok, we all know the stereotype of the dumb American tourist in Canada...

You know..."where's the igloos?" "Is that price in Canadian or US funds?"..."do you take credit cards up here?"

Never thought I'd see Australia join that group (or beat it for pure ignorance).

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080125/national/australia_cda_warning

some travel warnings from the Australian government:

- high threat of terrorism (bordering on the lawless, terrorist United States I guess)
- heavy snow, ice
- forest fires that can erupt "at any time." (No doubt set off by the heavy snow and ice).

British Columbia, in particular, was singled out as being in an active earthquake zone and "subject to avalanches" along with Alberta. (avalanches of burning forest fires maybe?)

What's scary is that the Oz government is putting this out.

And this is coming from someone whose country just proclaimed the US as a terrorist state along the same lines as Iran. Are you sure there are not "dumb canadian tourists" as well

Well, off to my meeting on how to better torture infidels.

WOLFMondo
01-25-2008, 12:35 PM
In my travels the only Australians I've ever met have been obsessed by finding the local pub.

jadger
01-25-2008, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by huggy87:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jensenpark:
Ok, we all know the stereotype of the dumb American tourist in Canada...

You know..."where's the igloos?" "Is that price in Canadian or US funds?"..."do you take credit cards up here?"

Never thought I'd see Australia join that group (or beat it for pure ignorance).

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080125/national/australia_cda_warning

some travel warnings from the Australian government:

- high threat of terrorism (bordering on the lawless, terrorist United States I guess)
- heavy snow, ice
- forest fires that can erupt "at any time." (No doubt set off by the heavy snow and ice).

British Columbia, in particular, was singled out as being in an active earthquake zone and "subject to avalanches" along with Alberta. (avalanches of burning forest fires maybe?)

What's scary is that the Oz government is putting this out.

And this is coming from someone whose country just proclaimed the US as a terrorist state along the same lines as Iran. Are you sure there are not "dumb canadian tourists" as well

Well, off to my meeting on how to better torture infidels. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<span class="ev_code_RED">What are you talking about?</span>

Pirschjaeger
01-25-2008, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by huggy87:

And this is coming from someone whose country just proclaimed the US as a terrorist state along the same lines as Iran. Are you sure there are not "dumb canadian tourists" as well



Back it up. That's a pretty strong accusation.

Fritz

berg417448
01-25-2008, 02:22 PM
I could be wrong but he might be referencing this news item from a few weeks ago:

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/canada-lists-us-as...torture-1270265.html (http://www.independent.ie/world-news/canada-lists-us-as-zone-for-torture-1270265.html)

Pirschjaeger
01-25-2008, 02:27 PM
Check it out:
Travel Updates for Canandians (http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/ctry/new-en.asp)

The US isn't even listed, let alone in warnings.

But, it seems that the US has made many new regulations for Canadians traveling in the US.

"The Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) is a U.S. law requiring all travellers, including Canadians, to carry a passport or other appropriate secure documentation when travelling to the United States.

Land and Sea Travel

As of January 31, 2008, the WHTI will require Canadian citizens entering the United States by land or sea to present :

* a government-issued photo ID, such as a driver's licence AND a birth certificate or a citizenship card;
OR
* a valid Canadian passport;
OR
* a NEXUS or a Free and Secure Trade (FAST) card;
OR
* an enhanced driver's licence;
OR
* an Indian and Northern Affairs Canada (INAC) card;
OR
* a birth certificate only, for youth 18 and under.

Air Travel

Since January 23, 2007, the WHTI requires Canadian citizens entering or transiting the United States by air to present :

* A valid Canadian passport;
OR
* A NEXUS card when used at a NEXUS kiosk

This requirement applies to all Canadian citizens, regardless of age, including children. Canadians should obtain the appropriate required documentation before leaving Canada, keep this documentation up to date and carry it with them when travelling."

Sweet.

Fritz

Heavy_Weather
01-25-2008, 02:34 PM
I think I can speak for everyone here. We're all fun loving people, its our governments who are the child-adults. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

RepublicofTexas
01-25-2008, 02:35 PM
The USA's northern border usefull idiot at work....

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/200..._080116/20080116?c=1 (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080116/khadr_torture_080116/20080116?c=1)

Pirschjaeger
01-25-2008, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by berg417448:
I could be wrong but he might be referencing this news item from a few weeks ago:

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/canada-lists-us-as...torture-1270265.html (http://www.independent.ie/world-news/canada-lists-us-as-zone-for-torture-1270265.html)

Yes, you are right but this is not the first time. Canadian citizens have been detained by the US and even exported to Syria for "interrogations". Now the US has made the use of "torture" legal. Anyone of middle Eastern appearance has to beware when passing through the US.

Canada's foreign ministry said that it will rewrite a training manual used by the country's diplomats that lists the US as a site of possible torture.

From the site;

"Canada's foreign ministry said that it will rewrite a training manual used by the country's diplomats that lists the US as a site of possible torture.

The department document, released on Friday, singled out the US detention centre at Guantanamo Bay. It also names Israel, Afghanistan, China, Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Mexico and Syria as places where inmates could face torture."

This is not the first time the Canadian government has issued travel warnings for Canadians, in regards to the US. There's cause and effect.

But a travel warning is completely different from listing a country as a terrorist country.

Fritz

Von_Rat
01-25-2008, 02:39 PM
"dumb canadian tourists"


i used to live in florida and alot of canadians came down in winter, and believe me its not just americans who can ask stupid questions.

actually except for the igloo part, those questions werent stupid. its just the kind of things people unfamilar with travel would ask.

Von_Rat
01-25-2008, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Check it out:
Travel Updates for Canandians (http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/ctry/new-en.asp)

The US isn't even listed, let alone in warnings.

But, it seems that the US has made many new regulations for Canadians traveling in the US.

"The Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) is a U.S. law requiring all travellers, including Canadians, to carry a passport or other appropriate secure documentation when travelling to the United States.

Land and Sea Travel

As of January 31, 2008, the WHTI will require Canadian citizens entering the United States by land or sea to present :

* a government-issued photo ID, such as a driver's licence AND a birth certificate or a citizenship card;
OR
* a valid Canadian passport;
OR
* a NEXUS or a Free and Secure Trade (FAST) card;
OR
* an enhanced driver's licence;
OR
* an Indian and Northern Affairs Canada (INAC) card;
OR
* a birth certificate only, for youth 18 and under.

Air Travel

Since January 23, 2007, the WHTI requires Canadian citizens entering or transiting the United States by air to present :

* A valid Canadian passport;
OR
* A NEXUS card when used at a NEXUS kiosk

This requirement applies to all Canadian citizens, regardless of age, including children. Canadians should obtain the appropriate required documentation before leaving Canada, keep this documentation up to date and carry it with them when travelling."

Sweet.

Fritz

its not the canadians their worried about. lol.

alot of americans arent happy with the new regulations either.

leitmotiv
01-25-2008, 03:02 PM
Snore. Yet another dumb nationality thread.

R_Target
01-25-2008, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Von_Rat:
alot of americans arent happy with the new regulations either.

I know. I'm close enough to drive up to Toronto, but my passport expired a couple years ago. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

M_Gunz
01-25-2008, 03:48 PM
Trying to come up with dumb tourists from Oz here;

Maybe tourist indoctrination includes 4 hours of watching "Great White North"?
Then are there Aussies coming to try out Canadian beers maybe? Moosehead, Red Cap, Molson,....

Back in the day the big border incursions were sneaking liquor and molasses across the line
though once I brought a few trout that I didn't declare and much later on Dad would smuggle
cigs into Canada for the Reunions which was much riskier but appreciated by the nic addicts!

Compare Canadian Club to Seagram's best! S'truth you don't spit that out after tasting!

Oh BTW, Good On Yer Australia! You got more and more travellers and I do notice that while
they say dumb they do not say arrogant!

Pirschjaeger
01-25-2008, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Von_Rat:
alot of americans arent happy with the new regulations either.

I think the Americans have a lot to be unhappy about these days. The country is changing so fast it's hard for them to keep up with it and take in all that's happening.

There's nothing nice about being victims of your own government. In these times, in every nation, everyone is a victim of their leadership; some more than others. Here in Germany the nation is being victimized in ways very similar to the Americans. The difference is that the German government is more subtle. Starting Jan 1rst, the year, Germany passed a law that allows the government to record and save all your internet, mobile, and other communication information as far as 6 months back. I don't know the German constitution yet but I'm willing to bet the new law is illegal.

I hope my American cousins vote for their constitution in November. It's the best thing America has to offer to the world. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Fritz

Crazy_Goanna
01-25-2008, 05:10 PM
If you read further in the article it says

"William Davis, a spokesman at Australia's High Commission in Canada, told The Canadian Press from Ottawa the warning about Canada is not new, but a "couple of years old."..."This is quite an old warning and it's not really about Canada," Australian High Commissioner Bill Fisher said "The warning is a general one for all Western countries and it followed some quite nasty statements by al-Qaida two or three years ago about attacks on Western countries."

Fisher said Canada is low down on the list of warnings and added all governments put out warnings about countries. ..."Every year we have a survey about the dream destination and every year in Australia, Canada is No. 1," Fisher added. "So I think people vote with their feet and their money, certainly with their ambitions, so we send about 200,000 Australians to Canada a year.".."We know that Australians are very attracted to the breadth of experiences that Canada has to offer."

She said the United Nations has ranked Canada as the second best country to live in.

"I think that speaks volumes," Lafleur said. According to the Canadian Embassy website in Australia, Australia provides the fifth largest number of overseas visitors to Canada each year.

Just for clarification.. Items taken out of context almost always provide wrong messages.

Pirschjaeger
01-25-2008, 05:18 PM
Cool. Thanks for the clarification. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Fritz

Ratsack
01-25-2008, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by jensenpark:
Ok, we all know the stereotype of the dumb American tourist in Canada...

You know..."where's the igloos?" "Is that price in Canadian or US funds?"..."do you take credit cards up here?"

Never thought I'd see Australia join that group (or beat it for pure ignorance).

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080125/national/australia_cda_warning

some travel warnings from the Australian government:

- high threat of terrorism (bordering on the lawless, terrorist United States I guess)
- heavy snow, ice
- forest fires that can erupt "at any time." (No doubt set off by the heavy snow and ice).

British Columbia, in particular, was singled out as being in an active earthquake zone and "subject to avalanches" along with Alberta. (avalanches of burning forest fires maybe?)

What's scary is that the Oz government is putting this out.

If you actually go to the Australian Government website that the article is about, you'll find that the travel advisories all take the same form, regardless of country. They start off with a summary that contains the standard blurb about terrorism. Underneath that they go into a series of headings and sub-headings as follows:

Safety and Security
Terrorism
Crime

For Parents

Natural Disasters

Local Travel etc.


The advisory just points out the obvious, and follows the same format for every country. However, there are two other lists that advise you NOT to travel to some countries, and revise your plans to travel to some others. Canada is not on those lists.

The site is here:

http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/#u

It's just a normal government web site, aimed at the lowest common denominator, and covering all things to ensure no idiot with a lawyer can sue the Commonwealth because 'You never warned me about XYZ, and now I've lost my blah blah blah blah'


Let the hysteria recommence.

cheers,
Ratsack

Airmail109
01-25-2008, 06:09 PM
I hate this planet.

Any aliens want to abduct me and take me to Alpha Centuri?

Von_Rat
01-25-2008, 06:11 PM
sorry all the ufos are filled up with people from texas!!!!!

chris455
01-25-2008, 06:23 PM
I never met a stupid I didn't Canadian. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Airmail109
01-25-2008, 06:56 PM
Earth

This advice has been reviewed and reissued with amendments to the Galactic Terrorism/Security section on 25 December). The overall level of the advice has not changed.

We advise against all travel to Earth: due to the large amounts of toxic fumes in the atmosphere; risk of accidental nuclear holocaust; risk of massive volcanism; risk of being captured and taken to Area 51; risk of biological disaster; risk of meeting humans.

General idiocy and inability to get along remain major problems on Earth.

Should you decide to travel to Earth against this advice, we strongly recommend that you obtain comprehensive travel, medical insurance and death rays before travelling and perhaps a couple of Nuclear Weapons.

Charos
01-25-2008, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Aimail101:
I hate this planet.

Any aliens want to abduct me and take me to Alpha Centuri?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Please dont blame the planet for the actions of its wayward inhabitants.

huggy87
01-25-2008, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by berg417448:
I could be wrong but he might be referencing this news item from a few weeks ago:

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/canada-lists-us-as...torture-1270265.html (http://www.independent.ie/world-news/canada-lists-us-as-zone-for-torture-1270265.html)

Yes. Thank you Berg. It was front page news in the US. Probably barely made the papers for those of you in other nations.

huggy87
01-25-2008, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Heavy_Weather:
I think I can speak for everyone here. We're all fun loving people, its our governments who are the child-adults. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Agree 100%. Nations really do act like children towards one-another.

Muddy17
01-25-2008, 08:08 PM
From a guy who travels back and forth across the US/Canada line I can say there are unfounded notions going both ways, But for myself [who does spend alot of time in the US] with the exception of the size of cities there aint much diferance between the average citizen.
AS FOR THAT LITTLE DIRTBAG Khard or whatever they cought in Afganastan, Any Canadian whatever should be stripped from him and promptly strung up, as well as fis remaining family deported to wherever they came from.

Ratsack
01-25-2008, 08:08 PM
Oh, for goodness sake, go and read the actual Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade site:

http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/#u

and see what it says.

If you do, you'll see the article is a complete beat up.

What is the matter with you people? Are you incapable of a little bit of critical reading, followed by the mental exercise of forming an opinion for yourselves?

Ratsack

blakduk
01-25-2008, 08:21 PM
I wouldn't travel to Canada- i heard their army has a tank, and they might be getting ammunition for it some day soon!!!!

The most dangerous people i saw in Canada were drunk Aussies picking fights WITH EACH OTHER in pubs- the usual Queensland vs NSW rubbish.

I'm not surprised our government has put out warnings like this- our culture is now riddled with warnings about things so authorities cant be held responsible when something goes wrong.
I'm surprised the travel warning doesnt state- 'Extreme caution- Canadians drive on the wrong side of the road' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
.
I love it when i get a brew in the office and there's a warning on the kettle- 'Danger, Hot Water!' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I'm glad they let me know stuff like that so i dont wonder why my tea bag burns my fingers when i take it out http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

M_Gunz
01-25-2008, 09:42 PM
Warning: Canada is in close proximity to a worldwide terrorist target.

I have seen that the weather around Calgary can be really vicious at times, but they have or
had cloud seeders working to make the hail storms less dangerous. Got that from the CBC.

I can highly recommend the Montreal Fireworks Festival, it's World Class. Just try not to
OD on Fun! The wildlands and wildlife there is also primo. No wonder it rates so high.

RAAF_Furball
01-25-2008, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by jensenpark:
Never thought I'd see Australia join that group (or beat it for pure ignorance). Views of the Oz Govt are not necessarily those of the management. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif



Originally posted by DrHerb:
didnt you know.....Canadian's favourate dish (especially with men) is beaver? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif I prefer my beaver without men. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

Crazy_Goanna
01-25-2008, 10:00 PM
Well said Ratsak

crucislancer
01-25-2008, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by RAAF_Furball:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jensenpark:
Never thought I'd see Australia join that group (or beat it for pure ignorance). Views of the Oz Govt are not necessarily those of the management. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif



Originally posted by DrHerb:
didnt you know.....Canadian's favourate dish (especially with men) is beaver? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif I prefer my beaver without men. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

jensenpark
01-25-2008, 11:29 PM
Geez - I should apologize...

I meant my posting a bit tongue in cheek...

Should have clarified...

Oh well...some funny responses anyway. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ratsack
01-26-2008, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by jensenpark:
Geez - I should apologize...

No apology required.




I meant my posting a bit tongue in cheek...

Should have clarified...

Oh well...some funny responses anyway. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I thought some of them were too. What annoyed me is the tone of those that assumed the substance of the article was right, and proceeded from there. I was most annoyed that some skid-mark of a journalist could be so sloppy as to go only to one part of site, and then write a beat up on basis of that. The people here who were too lazy to simply check if the article was right merely added to my annoyance.

Not annoyed with you at all.

cheers,
Ratsack

Skoshi Tiger
01-26-2008, 08:18 PM
As an AUSTRALIAN and it being AUSTRALIA DAY (26th) I find this thread quite offensive.

To suggest that our dumb people aren't 'World Class', ignorant, SOB is just wrong.

To mearly hint that our dumb people can't cut it against dumb people from other nations is more than my Australian psyche can handle.

.... continue rant for 2 to 3 pages ......
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

DrHerb
01-28-2008, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by RAAF_Furball:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jensenpark:
Never thought I'd see Australia join that group (or beat it for pure ignorance). Views of the Oz Govt are not necessarily those of the management. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif



Originally posted by DrHerb:
didnt you know.....Canadian's favourate dish (especially with men) is beaver? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif I prefer my beaver without men. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


woops, shoulda re-phrased that...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Tater-SW-
01-28-2008, 08:33 PM
I hung out with a bunch of different aussies when I was backpacking around asia back in the 80s. Great folks. Far more professional in their drinking that I ever was http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Some cute girls, too.

I'm anything but PC, but I'm a strong believer of "when in Rome." So when I'm in a muslim country I dress appropriately, and my wife does. OTOH, I expect them to do likewise if they come here (in the west, the only people who cover their faces are bank robbers).

tater

smokincrater
01-28-2008, 11:48 PM
I just would like to say to all Canadians. "Sorry about that."

luftluuver
01-29-2008, 06:10 AM
50?F - New Yorkers try to turn on the heat. Canadians plant gardens.

40?F - Californians shiver uncontrollably. Canadians sunbathe.

35?F - Italian cars won't start. Canadians drive with the windows down.

32?F - Distilled water freezes. Canadian water gets thicker.

20?F - Floridians wear coats, gloves & wool hats. Canadians throw on a t-shirt.

15?F - Californians begin to evacuate the state. Canadians go swimming.

0?F - New York landlords finally turn up the heat. Canadians have the last cook-out before it gets cold.

-10?F - People in Miami cease to exist. Canadians lick flag poles to see if their tongue will stick.

-20?F - Californians fly away to Mexico. Canadians throw on a light jacket.

-40?F - Hollywood disintegrates. Canadians rent some videos.

-60?F - Mt. St. Helens freezes. Canadian Girl Guides begin selling cookies door to door.

-80?F - Polar bears begin to evacuate to Antarctica. Canadian Boy Scouts postpone "Winter Survival" classes until it gets cold enough.

-100?F - Santa Claus abandons the North Pole. Canadians pull down their ear flaps.

-173?F - Ethyl alcohol freezes. Canadians get frustrated when they can't thaw the keg.

-297?F - Microbial life survives on dairy products. Canadian cows complain of farmers with cold hands.

-460?F - ALL atomic motion stops. Canadians start saying "Cold 'nuff for ya?"

-500?F - Hell freezes over. The Toronto Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup.