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TX-Gunslinger
08-19-2006, 03:36 AM
After many very long and grueling work weeks, particularly this one - I dragged myself home on Friday evening for a round of online IL2.

After scanning the servers and not finding exactly what I was looking for, I roamed around teamspeak looking for friends. After a empty logins to TS, I finally located some of my friends on a TS server. They were in the midst of playing a little, non-serious game of tag. You know, where you all take exactly the same aircraft that someone (anyone) calls out and the host selects a map, you split the group and the beat the **** out of each other, like 11 year olds with guns/rockets and bombs.

No rules, no seriousness, no moaning about this plane and that gun. Just pure, unadulterated, adolescent, and interactive entertainment. We started with the P-38L, then went through Gladitors, CR-42's, MC-202's, P-40's, Ki-61's, Me-109E4's and finished the night (all 5 hours or so) dogfighting in A-20's. No ego's, no whining, no worries. JUST FUN! Immelman's, negative manuevers with smoke on, stalls and spins - controlling a Ki-61 so freely I could get it into a tailslide. We all pushed these aircraft to their limits, again and again and again. I remember just how different the spin and stall onsets and their "feeling" were. How beautiful the MC-202 flies in it's regime, how it's cockpit must have taken forever to build and the wonderful peculiarites of its machine guns. All these things that I probably would'nt do or notice in the middle of my usual, serious online dogfighting with aircraft that I consider myself proficient in.

What I left with, other than the great company and removal of my "real-world" worries, was a renewed appreciation for this software and it's ability to entertain and bring folks together.

It's very easy these days to get too caught up in your own performance, your favorite aircraft's performance, what your wingman, squad or yourself, did or did not do - all the things that can take the fun out of things.

As most folks who know me can attest, I tend to gravitate towards serious and focused (sometimes too much so). I'll freely admit that. There are times when I've let the focus of my own performance, the desire to improve or excel, dampen my, well, fun. I laughed and even enjoyed for a change, "vulching", "kill stealing", "mid-air collisions", insane "head-ons' and things that would get you kicked on most servers or banned on others. It even seriously occured to me during this rough-housing, that perhaps what was truely missing from our normally serious on-line server pool was the "Banned Planes Server", "TB3 Dogfight Server" or "25lb Spits vs P11 Server".

The thing that I was struck by after I got off line tonight, was just how much enjoyment many of us may miss in our flight simulation "ruts". As a "flight-simmer", I'm about as hard-core as they come. I'm usually immersed in the technical, historical, training and competitive aspects of our community and this software product.

Now, of course, I still love all my FW's, having flown them through thick and thin, when the guns were great, when they were'nt, when you could'nt see what you were shooting at during the time of the "Blind German muzzle flashes" and "itsi-bitsi" Revi, when the A9 zoomed like a bullet, and when it did'nt. I have my own opinions on historical aircraft performance which differ from others, but I also realize that even 5% of error in an aircraft performance aspect can mean a great difference between the relative performance of two competing planes.

The best thing about tonight was, I never once had to think about any of those issues as my friends and I pounded the living mess out of each other, with randomly selected aircraft laughing and bs'ing all the way.

Having seen several folks whose company I've enjoyed over the years, fade from the scene, many with this dissapointment or that - I want to say to you, that if your bored and/or frustrated with this simulation perhaps you might consider rounding up some friends, putting a private server up (with no stats of course) and play "tag".

Here's to having real stupid fun again, at least every once in a while. Thanks guys, I needed that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

S~

Gunny

WTE_Ibis
08-19-2006, 03:55 AM
Yep, we do that periodically in WTE to let off steam and have some uninhibited fun. We have "tag" matches and "air racing" as well as someone being "it" with wingtip smoke and everyone else after him.
These circuit breakers ease the tension of the serious events and unify the squads that normaly are adversaries.
Good for the squads moral be sure.
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T_O_A_D
08-21-2006, 09:52 PM
Tag you It!!!!

VW-IceFire
08-21-2006, 10:04 PM
Good on you. Too many folks are way too serious, only fly one or two planes, and never get to have some real fun.

Some of the best times I've had were partaking in a TB-3 duel (COOP with everyone in one of two TB-3s and you duke it out with the turrets till someone wins). Or doing Air Racing which I did with the fine folks from UK-Dedicated server (when the server crashed we moved over to Air Racing) and its just such a blast to do something different.

A-20 dogfight sounds magnificent http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Treetop64
08-22-2006, 01:00 AM
Lol! Ice, that TB-3 action sounds like an airborne version of Jutland!

FlixFlix
08-22-2006, 02:29 AM
S! Gunslinger,

I completely agree with what you've written. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Every once in a blue moon me & my buddies gather for an all-out dogfight in I-153, all from the same AF, loaded with bombs or rockets and have at it - no holds barred and no rules, merrily blasting, vulching and colliding the night away. Come to think of it, I wonder if I ever have more fun with IL2 than at those times...
Seriously, it keeps the whole Sim-thing in perspective and reminds me that it really is all fun & games. Its a great relief from the serious flying, and theres nothing better than laughing it up with all your friends. (Also, as a side effect, it helped my gunnery a lot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

S!,
I/JG78_Flix

MEGILE
08-22-2006, 03:28 AM
But why hasn't Oleg fixed the FW bar?

AWL_Spinner
08-22-2006, 05:55 AM
Can someone point me to the next TB3 broadside contest, sounds like great fun http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Targ
08-22-2006, 06:07 AM
You hit the nail on the head!

Kuna_
08-22-2006, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Good on you. Too many folks are way too serious, only fly one or two planes, and never get to have some real fun. Well you are right. I suppose that people are just like that in life.
They wont fly a multi-crew bomber online or anything else if it isn't for points or stats.

In my opinion they are missing very important part of this game.

I've enjoyed to play your single player missions (just recently downloaded your 91-mission pack).
It really IS fun... even when I play them again and again... variety of planes (for instance interception mission with Bf-109Ks and ... Fi-156 Storch vs. P-47s and C-47s lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif). Very cool stuff.

People should dogfight with bombers online (I like to call them catfights http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif). Insane fun. Of course in COOPs, because it can be all human-occupied.

TB-3 vs. TB-3 is so uber fun matchup.

People, get silly. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Jaws2002
08-22-2006, 09:31 AM
Right on. So many people forgot this is a game and is good to have fun once in a while.

I remember the times we used to do that kind of crazy dogfights with the worst possible weather in "Pontoon zeros" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif.
We also used to make insanely long tunnels from objects and then see who can run through them. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
08-22-2006, 09:34 AM
In the early days, right after a release of a patch, we would all get together and have an evening of...erm...review. We would do much the same thing. B-25 dogfights, TB3-SPB intercepts at 8k, jets etc,..

The most fun we had one time was doing just as Gunny described, 5-vs-5 and try to see who could suppress the others the longest...yes, all-out, complete, unadulterated vulching, chute-shooting circle the airfield in a TB3 while the fighters vulch the snot out of all those guys scrambling like the keystone cops trying to get airborne for more than 30 seconds fun.

I like the virtual historical experiences and lean more towards the serious side as well, but sometimes I like the flipside too.


TB

shahsxfx
08-22-2006, 10:08 AM
As a new guy i must say there is a serious lack of low difficulty high fun servers.
Ok the vulching thing can be a bit over the top but as long as your using rockets and bombs how cares!
There really needs to be a server dedicated to just having a good time with every limited rules!

buglord
08-22-2006, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Good on you. Too many folks are way too serious, only fly one or two planes, and never get to have some real fun.

Some of the best times I've had were partaking in a TB-3 duel (COOP with everyone in one of two TB-3s and you duke it out with the turrets till someone wins). Or doing Air Racing which I did with the fine folks from UK-Dedicated server (when the server crashed we moved over to Air Racing) and its just such a blast to do something different.

A-20 dogfight sounds magnificent http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thats exctly what our squad does sometimes after long mission ,u cant beat a TB3 dogfight http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif