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Foehammer-1
02-03-2006, 07:44 AM
I'm thinking of transferring to Bergen when i can to go hunt those Murmansk convoys http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Still, paulhager used homing torpedoes against escorts. However, those don't appear till 1943. Until then, will i have a chance? I don't even try to sink escorts anymore, since they evade and search for me

paulhager
02-03-2006, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by Foehammer-1:
I'm thinking of transferring to Bergen when i can to go hunt those Murmansk convoys http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Still, paulhager used homing torpedoes against escorts. However, those don't appear till 1943. Until then, will i have a chance? I don't even try to sink escorts anymore, since they evade and search for me

My recollection is that my Type IX had Falcons at some point in 1942 as the standard loadout: two stern and two bow. In 1943, I think I lost them until they became available to purchase, at which point I bought them.

In 1944, I "gave myself" Wrens as part of the standard loadout because it is my understanding that this was done historically. In other words, I concluded that I shouldn't have to pay renown for torpedoes that would normally be carried. I did pay for "extras", however. LuTs, when they became available, were non-standard and had to be purchased as well.

nstutt
02-04-2006, 05:29 AM
And Bergen is a sod to get into and out of for every mission. As with all similar ports like Kiel where the land is very close to your sub when heading into the port the games acceleration feature is unavailable. This means it takes ages to get into and out of the port. I shifted from Kiel for this very reason and Bergen is even worse.

Unless you like to spend hours getting to and out of your port for every mission avoid Bergen like the plague!

Messervy
02-04-2006, 06:08 AM
There is an option in SH commander to change the TC settings in proximity of the land.
Very usefull feature for people that are not so patient.

Trydan
02-04-2006, 07:28 AM
I've done one Murmansk convoy (Jul/Aug 1943) and sank every escort. I was using a Typ-IXD2 U-Boot, with normal T1(G7a) torpedoes - I like them for their 44 kt speed. However, my aim was to sink the escorts to make life easier for the Luftwaffe and Tirpitz, so I was "wasting" 2-3 torpedoes per escort, which was quite inefficient. I also started attacking the convoy just south of Jan Mayen, so the patrol ran for well over a week, with me picking off an escort every 12-18 hours or so.

In the end, neither Luftwaffe nor capital ships arrived, and the convoy sailed on to Russia. By the time they were east of Hammerfest, I used up my remaining torpedoes on freighters and went back to Harstad.

paulhager
02-04-2006, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Trydan:
I've done one Murmansk convoy (Jul/Aug 1943) and sank every escort. I was using a Typ-IXD2 U-Boot, with normal T1(G7a) torpedoes - I like them for their 44 kt speed. However, my aim was to sink the escorts to make life easier for the Luftwaffe and Tirpitz, so I was "wasting" 2-3 torpedoes per escort, which was quite inefficient. I also started attacking the convoy just south of Jan Mayen, so the patrol ran for well over a week, with me picking off an escort every 12-18 hours or so.

In the end, neither Luftwaffe nor capital ships arrived, and the convoy sailed on to Russia. By the time they were east of Hammerfest, I used up my remaining torpedoes on freighters and went back to Harstad.

I think the most efficient approach is to take out the two escorts on the southern flank of the convoy. This is the direction from which the Luftwaffe attacks.

I did much worse when I went after more escorts because that just used up torpedoes that could have been used to sink high-value merchants.