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Lunix
10-19-2005, 02:55 AM
I got into a good tail position below the gunner and put considerable ammo-800 rounds, in fact-into the plane, not realizing he had armorplate up there. Finally I got his oil, but I didn't see any flames- just a windshield full of oil.
-- Colonel Ralph "Salty" Saltsman
18th Fighter Bomber Wing.
Result: Probable

Describing an engagement between his P51 vs a IL2 fighter bomber in Korea. I read that this evening and figured it would be a good can of worms opener.

HotelBushranger
10-19-2005, 03:12 AM
I doubt there were Il2s in Korea: the wood would rot very quickly. They had all metal Il-10's though, so I might be them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

mynameisroland
10-19-2005, 06:08 AM
How could .50 cals not shoot down some rotten Russian made **** plane while the could destroy Tiger tanks?

Lunix
10-19-2005, 10:09 AM
Yes the pilot initially believed it was a IL10. however he described the plane as being a pilot and one rear gunner. He also stated that inteligence informed him it was a IL2, In Korea.

Waldo.Pepper
10-19-2005, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by mynameisroland:
How could .50 cals not shoot down some rotten Russian made **** plane while the could destroy Tiger tanks?

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Skycat_2
10-19-2005, 10:44 AM
Well, everybody knows that the P-51D was the best combat plane ever made. However, I bet that poor pilot in Korea got stuck with an F-51. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

PBNA-Boosher
10-19-2005, 11:11 AM
Poor guys in Korea with F-51's wish they were either in F-82's, F-80's, F-84's, or F-86's.

the F-51 was just outclassed by then.

VW-IceFire
10-19-2005, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Lunix:
Yes the pilot initially believed it was a IL10. however he described the plane as being a pilot and one rear gunner. He also stated that inteligence informed him it was a IL2, In Korea.
I believe postwar records indicate that no IL-2s were at any time ever shipped to Korea for any reason. I could be wrong on this but I believe this is what I had read.

Also, IL-10's are very much like an IL-2 in appearance. Similar in overall apperance while differing on the details. The IL-10 did have a rear gunner with a powered turret (I think he was armed with a 20mm ShVAK).

Intel may have been wrong on this one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Wartime intel usually is a series of half truths anyways.

Lunix
10-19-2005, 06:48 PM
You may be right on this IceFire but the quote does match up with what we know of the old concrete plane eh? Quotes are very subjective as well, perhaps we should mark this up to a possible?

You can take out tiger with .50s by bouncing your rounds off an IL2 flying low nearby.

Badsight.
10-19-2005, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
I doubt there were Il2s in Korea: the wood would rot very quickly. They had all metal Il-10's though, so I might be them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif IL-2s were used in Korea

in fact more IL-2 were shot down in korea than IL-10

IL-10 were amazingly well armoured - a real flying tank