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tonedog2005
12-20-2005, 04:30 PM
do all the planes have their own flight models or do they just look pretty? does everyone notice the difference flyin different planes?

Kuna15
12-20-2005, 04:36 PM
I think you will be very surprised when you get the game. Planes hare handling very different and they aren't all tough the same. Some are soft some sturdy. Some have weak spots... etc.

Get this game asap ... or better get all three FB+AEP+PF.
http://www.pacific-fighters.com/en/home.php

Snuffly
12-20-2005, 04:46 PM
every plane is diffrent, makes this game a good strategy game if u look at it from a certain point of view. But, all planes have there good spots and bad spots, for example, the P-51D is a fast plane, but can't turn too well at low altitude. Or ummmm the A6M2 Zero, can turn on a dime, but lacks the speed.

Every plane was used for different things in ww2, so you can guess that the guys who enginnered all these planes did a fairly well job designing them for what they where built for.



So basically all planes are diffrent. As said above. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif


oh one other thing, the la-7 sux at everything dont fly it.

danjama
12-20-2005, 05:12 PM
LMFAO at poster

Brain32
12-20-2005, 05:24 PM
@tonedog, not only that planes FM is different, but you can also REALLY notice the difference between variants of the same plane(ie. ME109g6, g6late,g6a/s - all act different in some aspects). I NEVER saw a sim with such detailed modelling...

MLudner
12-20-2005, 05:48 PM
Indeed. The P-400, though just a modified P-39, flies noticeably different from the P-39. My first attempt at barn-storming a hangar went awry because of it. Had no problem in a 39 the next and every subsequent time.

MEGILE
12-20-2005, 05:56 PM
There are no discernable differences in handling between the Focke Wulf and Spitfire.

mortoma
12-20-2005, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by MLudner:
Indeed. The P-400, though just a modified P-39, flies noticeably different from the P-39. My first attempt at barn-storming a hangar went awry because of it. Had no problem in a 39 the next and every subsequent time. I never notcied any difference between the P-400 and the P-39-D1 at all. In fact, they are supposed to be exactly the same plane. The same exact turn rate, the same weight, HP the same high and low altitude speeds. The only difference is that the D1 had a loadout for a 500lb. bomb and a 75 gallon drop tank available, while the P-400 has no loadouts available. Even the armament is the same. Methinks you have a big imagination, no offense intended. I have had my imagination play tricks on me in life in general, this sim included. We all do...........

Bearcat99
12-20-2005, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by tonedog2005:
do all the planes have their own flight models or do they just look pretty? does everyone notice the difference flyin different planes?

Each one flies a bit differently. Part of the charm of the sim.

p-11.cAce
12-20-2005, 07:24 PM
The best part of all the FM's is the ability to transmit a sense of mass and inertia (though I still feel 4.01 did this better). I fly another sim called Condor which is hands down the BEST soaring sim available and if I jump out of it and into IL2 I often feel like I've gone from a bicycle to a big-rig. It amazes me how effective the dev team has been at providing this sensation.

mortoma
12-21-2005, 12:54 PM
All the aircraft are not different!!! As I pointed out in my earlier post, the P-400 and P-39D1 are exactly the same FM, they only have different loadouts and skins. In in real life they were the same plane to so it's accurate. Also the F6F-3 and F6F-5 Hellcats both have absolutely identical everything. The only difference is the extra window behind the cockpit in the -3 version and of course the skins/paint is slightly different.

Grue_
12-21-2005, 01:35 PM
If all the flight models were the same this forum would shut down out of boredom http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

MLudner
12-21-2005, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by mortoma:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MLudner:
Indeed. The P-400, though just a modified P-39, flies noticeably different from the P-39. My first attempt at barn-storming a hangar went awry because of it. Had no problem in a 39 the next and every subsequent time. I never notcied any difference between the P-400 and the P-39-D1 at all. In fact, they are supposed to be exactly the same plane. The same exact turn rate, the same weight, HP the same high and low altitude speeds. The only difference is that the D1 had a loadout for a 500lb. bomb and a 75 gallon drop tank available, while the P-400 has no loadouts available. Even the armament is the same. Methinks you have a big imagination, no offense intended. I have had my imagination play tricks on me in life in general, this sim included. We all do........... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It wasn't my imagination. First, the P-400 does not have the same armament, the 37mm of the P-39 had been replaced by a 20mm.
I thought it was noticeably different. I can land a P-39 smoothly, but the P-400 I have problems with. I land it safely, but it tends to be messier. Actually, after I ripped my port wing off trying to barnstorm that hangar in the 400 I was slapping myself. I knew I could do better than that! I then tried to make a demo flight on that map (OnLineIsland6) and gather data on all the airfields I had built-up such as Runway heading and altitude. So I flew a 400 from the P-39 base in the mountains on the east coast and went to each base in turn. My landings were sloppy and sometimes actually hairy. THAT was when I realized there was difference between the two aircraft. It was only the 2nd time I'd flown a 400 (the first being the one where I crashed).

Oh, and I take no offense, BTW. It's cool.

mortoma
12-21-2005, 02:09 PM
Hmmmm...Well according to Hardball's veiwer, it's exactly the same but I can't vouch that his veiwer is not mistaken. But also in IL2compare, ( the last version ) they leave out the D1 because the P-400 is considered the same aircraft, which it's supposed to be historically. Also, check again because the D1 has the 20mm Hispano lke the P-400 and it does not have an option for the 37mm either. A trip to QMB will show you that. You might possibly be mistaking the D2 with the D1. The D2 has better handling and is also spades faster at all altitudes. It has an option for either the 20mm or the 37mm. Maybe you have been thinking about the d2 all this time?? I dunno....

MLudner
12-21-2005, 02:19 PM
You know what? There it is.

I am used to flying the D2. Sorry for any confusion.

mortoma
12-21-2005, 02:23 PM
Yea, I just went to FMB and went to my special landing practice mission that I set up a long time ago. I changed the aircraft to both the D1 and then the P-400. I tried landing both and could not discern a difference. I'm a real world pilot too, so my landings should be consistent if nothing else. And believe me, the guys at the airport I used to fly out of would agree, my landings are nothing else!!! They are consistent but I would not say I'm the best lander out there!!! And naturally, my worse landings were always when the guys and ladies were all outside standing and watching my landings...Nobody there, much better landings!! I'm not kidding either....

MLudner
12-21-2005, 02:34 PM
Indeed. I crash mostly when someone's watching over my shoulder.

LStarosta
12-21-2005, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
There are no discernable differences in handling between the Focke Wulf and Spitfire.

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HayateAce
12-21-2005, 03:21 PM
Allies planes is fly different FMs.

Germandy planes is one FM:


http://www.pedalcarsandretro.com/store/files/images/Pedal_Plane_Red_240.jpg

Yall come back now.

LStarosta
12-21-2005, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by HayateAce:
Allies planes is fly different FMs.

Germandy planes is one FM:


http://www.pedalcarsandretro.com/store/files/images/Pedal_Plane_Red_240.jpg

Yall come back now.

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Wilburnator
12-21-2005, 04:21 PM
Not only are they all different, they're all different yet again with each new patch! Now there's some variety for ya...