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XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 11:59 AM
The killer whale Keiko, known to children all around
the world as Willy, has died from illness.

He came to the Norwegian coast from Iceland about a year
ago and started a rather amusing national debate on
whether he should be shot or not.

(I would love to explain to the world why Norwegian fishermen
think a killer whale is incapable of sustaining itself
after starring in a number of Hollywood flicks, but I'd
rather not try)

Norwegian news-site:
http://pub.tv2.no/nettavisen/innenriks/article164624.ece

XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 11:59 AM
The killer whale Keiko, known to children all around
the world as Willy, has died from illness.

He came to the Norwegian coast from Iceland about a year
ago and started a rather amusing national debate on
whether he should be shot or not.

(I would love to explain to the world why Norwegian fishermen
think a killer whale is incapable of sustaining itself
after starring in a number of Hollywood flicks, but I'd
rather not try)

Norwegian news-site:
http://pub.tv2.no/nettavisen/innenriks/article164624.ece

XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 04:28 PM
Rest in peace Keiko /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 06:15 PM
Kind of sad ...............

since we are talking about whales.........I would like to give the friendly advice to those who likes to go searching for dolphins to swim with them...

the advice is to do it on a dolphin safari with proffessionals........and not just with a group of friends.

Its aknown fact that sharks often trail behind flocks of dolphins and there is always a risk involved being so close to big wild animals especially with predatory habits, even dolphins can be p*ssed of if stressed.

( people just sometimes forget that the ocean is a huntinground for many animals)../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 08:46 PM
Very sad. He'd been through a lot..../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 09:13 PM
ob_swe wrote:
- Kind of sad ...............
-
- since we are talking about whales.........I would
- like to give the friendly advice to those who likes
- to go searching for dolphins to swim with them...
-
- the advice is to do it on a dolphin safari with
- proffessionals........and not just with a group of
- friends.
-
- Its aknown fact that sharks often trail behind
- flocks of dolphins and there is always a risk
- involved being so close to big wild animals
- especially with predatory habits, even dolphins can
- be p*ssed of if stressed.
-
- ( people just sometimes forget that the ocean is a
- huntinground for many animals

Wild dolphins are typically wary of humans in the water and if they are uncomfortable will just leave the area. If you are getting close to a wild dolphin in the water, it is probably because the dolphin is curious and wants to be near you. I've never heard of anyone being attacked by a dolphin. And as for sharks, well of course there is a risk with all wild animals, but you are much more likely to be attacked and killed by a domesticated dog.

While "dolphin encounters" do offer safe and educational experiences for those who would typically never have an opportunity to interact with the incredible animals, their increasing popularity (it is now the "in" thing for tropical resorts to offer their own "dolphin encounters") means more and more dolphins being captured to put in captivity.

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XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 09:23 PM
I remember watching Keiko in his aquatic show here in Mexico City, it was great for a kid

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XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 09:27 PM
Monkey Mia in Western Australia was the first place where wild dolphins would make a habit of coming in to be fed everyday. The government (Parks & wildlife)stepped in to regulate it as it was getting out of hand. The pod has taught subsequent generations to come in for food as well. I do recall that a woman was bitten by one of the dolphins a few years back before controls were put in place. Not the dolphin's fault.

Sad to hear about Kieko..../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

It's only funny til someone loses an eye....then it's hilarious

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XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 10:21 PM
So, where are the girlies gonna go for free willie now??

XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 10:52 PM
A.K.Davis wrote:
-- I've never heard of anyone being attacked by a dolphin.



-Raking their teeth along your limbs.
"Dolphins have a hundred very sharp, cone-shaped teeth, designed for grasping. I would not recommend putting my hand near them." - Randy Wells, Chicago Zoological Society


-Pushing, bumping or head butting.
A Brazilian man was head-butted in the chest so hard that he died of internal injuries.
"Tiao the dolphin sent one man to the hospital and the other to the grave, and head-butted several more bathers for good measure." - BBC report concerning this incident.


-Approaching with an open mouth, pulling you under or not letting you leave the water.
"People have been bitten by dolphins, pulled under the water, rammed. They are at the top of their food chain, they're wild animals and they're predators." - Randy Wells, Chicago Zoological Society


http://www.freethedolphins.org/facts_aggression.htm
Now you have/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 10:59 PM
A.K.Davis wrote:



- Wild dolphins are typically wary of humans in the
- water and if they are uncomfortable will just leave
- the area. If you are getting close to a wild
- dolphin in the water, it is probably because the
- dolphin is curious and wants to be near you. I've
- never heard of anyone being attacked by a dolphin.
- And as for sharks, well of course there is a risk
- with all wild animals, but you are much more likely
- to be attacked and killed by a domesticated dog.
-
- While "dolphin encounters" do offer safe and
- educational experiences for those who would
- typically never have an opportunity to interact with
- the incredible animals, their increasing popularity
- (it is now the "in" thing for tropical resorts to
- offer their own "dolphin encounters") means more and
- more dolphins being captured to put in captivity.
-
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Yes its fairly safe depending on luck and how often a person loiters in the water /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
on land cars are far more dangerous since we are expozed to them more often.Dogs can be dangerous but we are not food to them, unlike sharks that eat everything they can or lets say taste everything.( and thats plenty)
On the other hand we are very vulnerable on the watersurface compared to land bcause the ocean actually is a huntinground .we are seen from below and we cant see or make comparable resistance even against small animals.as u know, anything on the surface might be dead or wounded wich means easy meal for all flesheaters even the tiny ones.

ofcourse People just isnt on dolphins menus, but depending on history and variations in a flock and if its healthy is quite difficult for the average layperson to see, and if there are trailing sharks Its also a known fact that boats and any shadows on the surface is investegated even if its not attacked.

So even if dolphins leave, sharks might not.
What trie to say earlier was that if u go out with proffessionals unessesary risks can be avoided, and since the proffessionals have (hopefully ) more knowledge there is also a gain in the education u spoke of.

As u may also know most of the unhappy sharkattacks was avoidable and happened to people who didnt know about the "small" risk involved with the ocean. and thats sad.






Message Edited on 12/13/0310:03PM by ob_swe

XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 11:24 PM
My mind is made up. I'm looking forward to doing it on a dolphin.

XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 11:40 PM
What a ******* thread. Anybody who bought into that 1970's feel good "Kisser Whale" crap that Jaques Coustou tried to pipe to the masses should be forced to spend a year or two on the water around them. They are mean sons a bee-otchs, that can be cruel and kill in packs.

XyZspineZyX
12-13-2003, 11:48 PM
Lots of free sushi then?.

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XyZspineZyX
12-14-2003, 12:11 AM
Get real people, humans are dying from starvation every hour and you peeps feel sad for a killer whale who had more attention and care then most children in third world countrys.

XyZspineZyX
12-14-2003, 01:47 AM
We need an underwater equivalent of the IL-2,lets see how smart they are now /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
12-14-2003, 01:54 AM
The only dangerous animal at sea is a human.

As for the Dolphins (and 99% of wild animals in general) don't mess with it and it won't mess with you.......

Or

Look but don't touch....

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XyZspineZyX
12-14-2003, 01:59 AM
Hmm,so how big must a hole in the garden be to fit a whale?

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XyZspineZyX
12-14-2003, 02:01 AM
carguy_ wrote:
- Hmm,so how big must a hole in the garden be to fit a
- whale?

Depends..... Minke or Fin, adult or juvenile..... oh, and you need space for the winch too /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif


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XyZspineZyX
12-14-2003, 02:32 AM
Remember, if you can't free Willy, eat Willy, I love seafood, bet he'd taste great with tarter sauce.

XyZspineZyX
12-14-2003, 03:04 AM
Ooops, thought you were talking about me!?


As Monty Python would say:


I'm not dead yet!


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