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TheGozr
11-14-2006, 04:04 AM
First try
http://www.gozr.net/iocl/images/fsx/FSXspit.jpg

http://www.gozr.net/iocl/images/fsx/spitpic.jpg

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Skycat_2
11-14-2006, 04:19 AM
Was it made compatible with FSX, or did you port it over. If you did it yourself, do all the guages appear/work?

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p1ngu666
11-14-2006, 05:29 AM
what about the FM? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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11-14-2006, 06:41 AM
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DudeAbides82
11-14-2006, 06:49 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif HaHa, thats what I was wondering. Looks really good though. Do the pilots eyeballs blink?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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p-11.cAce
11-14-2006, 06:53 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif FSX - pc crushing graphics + 1980 fm = nOObs delight.

Black Sheep
11-14-2006, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by p1ngu666:
what about the FM? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The FM of that particular aircraft - RealAir's Mk. XIV - is pretty much on the money, I'd wager it to be more accurate than any of the Il2 series Spits.

Caveat - at least, in it's parent sim - FS9. God alone knows how it flies in FSX.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

http://www.photobucket.com/albums/i126/UberCougar/Spitfire.jpg

Manu-6S
11-14-2006, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by Black Sheep:
I'd wager it to be more accurate than any of the Il2 series Spits.


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mynameisroland
11-14-2006, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by Black Sheep:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p1ngu666:
what about the FM? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The FM of that particular aircraft - RealAir's Mk. XIV - is pretty much on the money, I'd wager it to be more accurate than any of the Il2 series Spits.

Caveat - at least, in it's parent sim - FS9. God alone knows how it flies in FSX. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So no continual 9 G loops then without energy loss ?><div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Black Sheep
11-14-2006, 08:06 AM
So no continual 9 G loops then without energy loss ?

I'd be very suprised if any Spit does that in either sim, even with all the realism sliders / checkboxes to the left / unchecked.

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http://www.photobucket.com/albums/i126/UberCougar/Spitfire.jpg

stathem
11-14-2006, 08:09 AM
Every time I see the MSFS Mk XIV I shed a little tear...<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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11-14-2006, 09:05 AM
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BillyTheKid_22
11-14-2006, 09:06 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif great picture!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Xiolablu3
11-14-2006, 09:06 AM
Lovely looks. Hope BOB looks that good.

You cant really compare a Mk XIV Spit with a MkIX flight model as the Griffon engine made it a lot heavier (and far faster).

The MkIX Spit we have in game, can turn very well, but its so very slow compared to Axis planes. I dont get what all the complaints about the flight model are all about. It has better lift than all the German planes (in fact almost all planes in the game) , at the expense of speed. Thats why she is so easy to handle and fly.

Spitfire was a very very easy plane to fly, and so it is in the game. (Watch the 'Spitfire Ace' documentry posted elsewhere in the forum)<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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XyZspineZyX
11-14-2006, 09:48 AM
I tried porting the RA spit over to FSX but the gauges didnt work and the pilot and cockpit had no textures. Whats your secret?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Chuck_Older
11-14-2006, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Lovely looks. Hope BOB looks that good.

You cant really compare a Mk XIV Spit with a MkIX flight model as the Griffon engine made it a lot heavier (and far faster).



prop also turns in opposite direction! Torque is also a lot more pronounced

leitmotiv
11-14-2006, 10:16 AM
I have been using Shockwave's WWII FIGHTERS set in FSX---they were designed for it. The true religion. The Spit I's big snout butts out into your purview, as it should, making deflection shooting hard. Shockwave's latest patch for the set gives you the capability to turn your gunsight recticle on and off. You can't use the recticle if your head is out of position. You use 6 DOF to get yourself squared behind your sight (and to look down the side of your cowl or around or over your back armor). It and the 109Es fly as they should. The Spit hacks and coughs when you hit her with negative and positive Gs. Because of this you soon find yourself sending in your dues to the "B of Brit 109 was better than the B of Brit Spit Club". Because of the precise record of your targeting provided by the real-behavior of the recticle, I'd fancy some terrific online brawls could be had between Shockwave Spit Is and 109Es. Oh yes, they also look beautiful. The Spit cockpit is fabulous. Too bad we may have to wait more than a year for this from Maddox. If FSX can support boom as some believe, Oleg will have stiff competition.

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crazyivan1970
11-14-2006, 10:43 AM
Not even close to BOB`s Spitfire visually, sorry http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Monty_Thrud
11-14-2006, 10:47 AM
Xiolablu3, surely you know by now, some of the Lufties in this game believe they should be getting the kill counts of Adolf Galland(etc.) every night on Hyperlobby, then blame the Spitfire when they dont http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Very nice screenies btw, like the way the pilot looks, hope for something similar in BoB.

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Brain32
11-14-2006, 11:02 AM
Nice Spitfire, like somebody said I guess it has more earthlike FM, anyway, too bad we don't have MkXIV in IL2, I'd love to fly it offline now and then...


Xiolablu3, surely you know by now, some of the Lufties in this game believe they should be getting the kill counts of Adolf Galland(etc.) every night on Hyperlobby, then blame the Spitfire when they dont http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif
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WTE_Galway
11-14-2006, 03:41 PM
The VVS flour bombs in FSX are overmodelled.

TheGozr
11-14-2006, 04:52 PM
Just got Wings of war for FSX and Waaooooo!!

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leitmotiv
11-14-2006, 05:20 PM
Switch on the gunsight reticle and amaze the audience! Agree with major_setback---people who love airplanes do not have to be blowing them up all the time to get their kicks, and admiring another company's good work certainly is not the equivalent of trivializing Maddox. Put very accurately and realistically, 46 is yesterday's news compared to FSX. What we want is model detail and features which are state-of-the-art, not what was amazing two years ago. Now this is not disloyalty to the site's product, it is realism. We are all adults here, not 13 yr old children. One last bit of realism, Maddox will never be able to model as many aircraft as FSX's dozens of providers. When I am not blowing things up, I like a nice, long ride in a Whitley through bad weather. This is a fact with many people. Why impose this sensibility that you are either 100% Maddox or you are out of court? We'll all buy BOB when it finally is finished.

Bearcat99
11-14-2006, 05:33 PM
If MS was smart they would release an add on or a mod that would render all warbirds battle ready and release it as CFS4.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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leitmotiv
11-14-2006, 05:35 PM
Well, rumor has it that's what is coming. If it's any good then all of us can bone up for BOB!

TheGozr
11-14-2006, 06:19 PM
A quick flight over Hawaii on 51
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BillyTheKid_22
11-14-2006, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
If MS was smart they would release an add on or a mod that would render all warbirds battle ready and release it as CFS4.

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Vike
11-14-2006, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Brain32:
Nice Spitfire, like somebody said I guess it has more earthlike FM, anyway, too bad we don't have MkXIV in IL2, I'd love to fly it offline now and then...

I agree with you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
It would be a more interesting opponent in the late war scenarios,and i personally find the Griffon-Spits a bit less ugly than the earlier versions.

Concerning the graphical quality level,i think Crazy-Yvan maybe right.I don't know what Gozr did use in his graphic settings,but it seems that the planes look sharper in our five years old sim,than in FSX:

http://www.gozr.net/iocl/images/fsx/FSXspit.jpg

http://www.gozr.net/iocl/images/fsx/spitpic.jpg

Compared to what i get,with my very old system:

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http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/Vike01/true2.jpg

I don't want to "flame" FSX,but i would think 1C can do better than that with SoW:BOB engine.Unless you used minimal graphic settings,Gozr? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

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major_setback
11-14-2006, 06:51 PM
The only problem with FSX is that it is very demanding on your system. I can imagine that BoB will be even more demanding, even on the best systems availabe at the time of its release. It will probably be many years before any of us can get any near-decent level of detail out of BoB and still get a good frame rate. Why not play FSX while you're waiting?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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TheGozr
11-14-2006, 06:58 PM
I tried the 109 E's and it's by far better than il2 it's not even funny!!! and i am picky. My pics are 40 to 60 kb meaning i cut them down to have a fast views on the web. But anyway will see with BOB and if FSX is great BoB should push the envelop even more ( i hope so )

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XyZspineZyX
11-14-2006, 07:58 PM
http://forums.simflight.com/files/22_157.jpg

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Better comparison here http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Lemky
11-14-2006, 08:03 PM
Hi The Gozr.That spit and 109 are they add on.If so how much do the planes cost.On more thing can you ground loop them.And how do they spin.The reason I ask in flight sim 98 the planes where very close to the real thing.
Thanks

Xiolablu3
11-14-2006, 08:53 PM
I think the 109 is from IL2 isnt it?

Its for comparison. Brand new game, vs 5 year old game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


That 109 cockpit looks absolutely fantastic, another level of realism. We cannot expect quite as good graphics for an action simulator I guess, but it will be very close http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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crazyivan1970
11-14-2006, 09:59 PM
I still think that Spit looks pretty dang good in FB too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Treetop64
11-14-2006, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
If MS was smart they would release an add on or a mod that would render all warbirds battle ready and release it as CFS4.

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11-15-2006, 01:35 AM
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11-15-2006, 02:02 AM
no bombs, no bullets, no explosions=no fun

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karost
11-15-2006, 02:06 AM
I feel a good thing will show out next year
and I like a competition in WWII flight sim market.

they has many company build an addon product for FSX from arcade to hard-core simmer ...

now I think BOB not stay along .... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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RocketDog
11-15-2006, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
I still think that Spit looks pretty dang good in FB too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


The external models in some of the later IL-2 aircraft are quite good (like the Spit), but some are pretty crude because of the polygon limits - so the Beaufighter's engine cowls are not pretty seen from the cockpit.

The real killer differences are in the quality of the cockpits, the outside world and the engine sounds. The Wings of Power add-ons for FS9/10 are just so much better than anything we have in IL-2. Only the cockpits of the I-185s and the gladiator come close. The sounds we have in IL-2 are equally hopeless. A real Spitfire sounds nothing like the anodyne drone we have ingame. It seems that 1C have chosen not to update aircraft once they are in the series, so we have also ended up with some long-lasting horrors like the cockpits of the P-47 and Bf-109. The terrain and weather in FS9/10 are also vastly better than anything we have in IL-2. The FS series model things like crosswinds and different types of cloud. In comparison IL-2 doesn't do winds at all and the weather makes me feel like I'm in Ground Hog Day.

This is not to **** off IL-2, but to be honest and recognise that it is now getting very long in the tooth and even when stretched to its limits is being left behind by more recent products. This doesn't stop me enjoying playing IL-2, but it means that if I just want to fly through interesting weather and over interesting terrain, or carry out a challenging landing in a strong crosswind, then I am going to fire up FS instead.

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crazyivan1970
11-15-2006, 09:20 AM
What is interesting? I discussed this topic and some of your guys concerns with Oleg? this is what he had to say:

1. Currently UBI is not allowing to publish any screenshots.

2. Even that our Spitfire will have a little bit less of detail (which I still doubt), still, it will be more accurate and much closer to blueprints. And lets not even mention cockpit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

3. MS can make models even with 100,000 polygons, but they will not be able to launch 20 planes in the air and fight each other. Because a) it is impossible in FX, b) it would be not 2 fps over the cities, but 0 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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