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fluke39
07-04-2003, 10:34 AM
hi again folks,

when i first came here i noticed that the vast majority of people flew on hyperlobby - and i'm guessing that they still do.


i use ubi.com to do my online playing - mainly because when iinstalled FB it was much less effort to click the ubi icon and use my username from this forum - with no messing about or anything.

it seems there may be alot more games with arcade type settings (externals /padlock ) but i'm sure this is due to the fact most people who play FR are on HL - and anyway i enjoy flying with externals as well as FR.

what were the original reasons for everyone chosing hyperlobby over ubi.com and are these reasons still valid?

it would be interesting to hear from people who play on ubi.com as well as people who play on HL - and especially those who play on both - thank you /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Message Edited on 07/04/0310:58AM by fluke39

fluke39
07-04-2003, 10:34 AM
hi again folks,

when i first came here i noticed that the vast majority of people flew on hyperlobby - and i'm guessing that they still do.


i use ubi.com to do my online playing - mainly because when iinstalled FB it was much less effort to click the ubi icon and use my username from this forum - with no messing about or anything.

it seems there may be alot more games with arcade type settings (externals /padlock ) but i'm sure this is due to the fact most people who play FR are on HL - and anyway i enjoy flying with externals as well as FR.

what were the original reasons for everyone chosing hyperlobby over ubi.com and are these reasons still valid?

it would be interesting to hear from people who play on ubi.com as well as people who play on HL - and especially those who play on both - thank you /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Message Edited on 07/04/0310:58AM by fluke39

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 10:40 AM
I think originally there was just more people on Hyperlobby and the ubi.com software was not always great. Personally I always used both, but I haven't been online for 3 months due to no web access so couldn't say which one is best anymore. I seem to remember the last few weeks I played Hyperlobby it was really laggy.

Oh and my cable modem is getting fitted today - everyone better look out! Prepare to be spooned!

michapma
07-04-2003, 10:43 AM
I also just played on Hyperlobby because there were more folks and it was recommended. Now I also am there because of my squadron.

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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 10:43 AM
Hyperlobby sucks realy bad now, UBI is probibly the best.
Gamespy is great but noone uses it.

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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:08 AM
I've only owned IL2FB.
I use both HL and UBI and found the choice of game types (arcade or full real) to be pretty much the same.
HL does tend to have more Co-op missions available than UBI.
Having both just gives more chance of finding the server type your after.
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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:10 AM
WHEN you are flying it doesnt matter where you launch from DUH. it matters who the host is!....and ubi is a pain to find people etc. hyperlobby has all the teams and team servers to join a squad. they have cockpit off and on games. its much more user friendly than ubi. and jiri is ALWAYS updating the hyperlobby to keep out modified planes cheaters etc. for all the games....hyperlobby is designed BY a gaming fanatic FOR gaming fanatics....ubi is just around to take your money. buy their games....jiri....does it cuz he loved janes ww2 fighters and all flight sims

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 11:15 AM
RedDeath your full of it ,,,, there is no way to cheat in FB with modified planes cause there isnt a way as of yet to modify them ... HL is a program that allows a little too much access to your computer ... whenever im there i get masses of attack reports from my Firewall ... games do seem to run a tiny little bit smoother at HL ... but not all the time

UBI on the other hand might be a program that is a little rough at keeping connected but its a safe program & its free ... it costs nothing

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07-04-2003, 11:15 AM
Hyperlobby = suck!

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 10:45 AM
WUAF_Badsight wrote:
- RedDeath your full of it ,,,, there is no way to
- cheat in FB with modified planes cause there isnt a
- way as of yet to modify them

I think you misunderstood his post /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif He wasn't talking specifically about IL-2/FB he meant ALL of the other sims you can use Hyperlobby with. There are plenty of those that you can use modded planes and/or cheat with.

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fluke39
07-05-2003, 10:56 AM
RedDeth wrote:
- WHEN you are flying it doesnt matter where you
- launch from DUH.

i think you unintentionally or intentionally misunderstood me
I wasn't just talking about differences in the software but the whole thing - the services and those who use it
if it doesn't matter whether you launch from ubi or hyperlobby why then go on to say that if you launch on ubi it's a pain to find people and if you use HL its always updated to prevent cheating - clearly that means there is a difference DUH


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Message Edited on 07/05/0311:25AM by fluke39

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 11:08 AM
whenever im there i get masses of
- attack reports from my Firewall ... games do seem to
- run a tiny little bit smoother at HL ... but not
- all the time
-
- UBI on the other hand might be a program that is a
- little rough at keeping connected but its a safe
- program & its free ... it costs nothing


I really wish people would understand the software they are talking about.what you see as mass attacks are the differant people pinging each other ie...the pretty green or red lights you see beside gamehosts and such.

hyperlobby is also free.

it breaks down to this many many people like HL and many like UBI simply take your pick and go have fun.

And to back up red yes there are games where you can cheat such as ww2 fighters and the HL wont let you launch if you have cheats set up.

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07-05-2003, 11:08 AM
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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 11:09 AM
And killjoy if it sux so bad just stay in UBI

XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 02:02 PM
I don't know who to believe:

A. The guy with the black sheep in his sig that says it sucks?

B. The guy wearing a bunny costume as his sig who says it's OK?

So far I've only been on UBI, but I've heard about this other gaming service.

Need more opinions.

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 02:11 PM
When I first registered I clicked "play online" button and it gave me errors such as "activeX is @#$@!~" so I didn`t bother anymore.I asked a squad for help and they recommended HL.Few weeks later I tried UBI.com.There wasn`t any servers even close to FR.Never used UBI.com since.

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Tully__
07-05-2003, 04:00 PM
Go to http://hyperfighter.jinak.cz/

Click the Client download link in the left hand column.

Download the HL client and install.

Pick a user name and log in. If the username is already in use it will tell you wrong password, if it's not registered you'll get a guide to finishing the registration in the chat window. Try it out and see how you like it.

In the unlikely chance that you don't like it, uninstall it again. It installs and uninstalls nice and cleanly without problems on any of the currently common MSwindows operating systems.

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 04:41 PM
I have used HL exclusively. Only once did I use the UBI.com service (if anyone remembers when the HL server had to go down for a day or two). It worked after a few times giving me errors.

It was OK and everything but it is just not as user-friendly as HL is. While in HL you could find a number of COOP missions ready to go, while in UBI they are totally different rooms.

The server difficulties are different as well, 90% of the servers at UBI are flying, what are IMO, more arcadish settings, while HL has a good variety of many kinds of servers.

IMO, HL is just easier to use, MUCH more people use it, the other day there were over 650 people online, and there are always people online willing to help anyone with any kind of problem.

HL gets my vote.

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 05:26 PM
more competition in hyperlobby. when i was starting out someone recommended it and i havent looked back since.

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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 05:54 PM
I always foun HL a little complicated and I didn't really had a clue how the software worked. UBI gives me the impression that it has lots of features that no-one uses and so, making the software too big and complicated.

With HL, it is just point, click and you are off!

The sign-up thing in HL is just there to claim your nickname and not to send you "newsletters" wich no-one bothers to read or any spam.

(I do not claim UBI sends spam but, it can send stuff i don't ever ever use nor read)

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fluke39
07-05-2003, 06:32 PM
StG77_Kondor wrote:

-, 90%
- of the servers at UBI are flying, what are IMO, more
- arcadish settings, while HL has a good variety of
- many kinds of servers.

yep - thats definitely right it is hard to find F.R. or close too -there is Greatergreen server and usually about 1 maybe 2 at most other ones - so it doesn't give much choice - especially when my 56k connection really limits me to around 10 players without giving me hassles. i like F.R. for a serious game but i also like to play with externals on/padlock for a more fun /graphically pleasing game.

as for people on ubi i would say the majority are sound - it's probably like anywhere else (true i cannot compare to HL cos i havn't been there) my guess is there are sound people and some tw*ts every where you go.

if HL is as easy as you say tully (to set up and uninstall) i may give it a whirl - i've already downloaded the files some time ago - so i'm half way there and have nothing to lose! - i'm sure there'll be a few people there already waiting so they can shoot me out of the sky!


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XyZspineZyX
07-05-2003, 06:36 PM
HL is a better tool

As far as one having more or less arcade game - 90% of the servers on HL continue to use external views (dogfights).




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07-05-2003, 06:39 PM
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Tully__
07-06-2003, 05:21 AM
Fluke, you'll probably want to re-download HL, Jiri updates fairly regularly. It's not a huge download so this is no problem, and the updates are always better than the older versions.

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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 06:18 AM
a post from WUAF Badsight...badsight is a good name for you sir since you see things i never type! "RedDeath your full of it ,,,, there is no way to cheat in FB with modified planes cause there isnt a way as of yet to modify them ... HL is a program that allows a little too much access to your computer" i NEVER said you can cheat in FB. i know you cant...but in all the other flight sims on HL you can cheat. try downloading HL. it has about 20 flight sims and FPS games.... MOH CFS all versions flashpoint GR you name it. and everything ww2. jiri always updates his lobby to keep out cheaters. who else does that? the guy is a godsend to honest virtual pilots. HyperLobby cares about the people who fly there and he updates every month it seems . why? to correct new cheats found by pilots or problems with software that pop up. if you email oleg maddox and say hey oleg can you change the UBI lobby software so i can fly there? oleg wont respond...jiri will and will likely update his program for you if its valid. hows that for customer service? and all for free.

XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 06:46 AM
I tried ubi.com origanally. But it always gave me some B.S. about active X not being allowed even though I made absolutly sure it was. So I asked on the forums and they recomended HL. I installed it and was playing within 30 seconds. I eventually gave ubi.com another try one day when HL was down and after an hour or two of messing around with settings I managed to get it to run. I don't play there often, but I do drop by occasionally. Ubi.com consists mostly of newbies who simply don't know of HL yet. And that is one of the reasons why the settings are usually full unreal. As for the software itself, HL is superior and always has been. Ubi.com takes forever to load, consantly tries to update itself without asking, doesn't like firewalls and many other stuff. HL loads instantly and gives all the details on the game that you could want. HL is easier to use, more reliable, has more features and simply runs smoother. This is why most people play there.

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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 11:29 AM
I tried Hl a while back, but it simply refused to recognise my FB install. Jini says that it's fixed now, but I don't find Ubi all that bad, so I'm sicking with it for the time being.

XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 05:19 PM
I prefer ubi.com because I experienced many people just speak russian or finnish on HL.

Also imho they should let a designer do some work on the HL user interface: It's just plain ugly.

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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 05:37 PM
Veracious_Poet wrote:
- I don't know who to believe:
-
- A. The guy with the black sheep in his sig that
- says it sucks?
-
- B. The guy wearing a bunny costume as his sig who
- says it's OK?
-
- So far I've only been on UBI, but I've heard about
- this other gaming service.
-
- Need more opinions.
-

Try this warped view..

Ubi flips the bill for bandwidth and game matching servers. I don't play there because it takes money out of the developers pockets. Ubi uses the "Value added" excuse to get a bigger piece of the pie and I'm just not on board with that point of view.

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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 05:50 PM
I went with Hyperlobby originally because the people in know said so. Since then my experience has been pretty much what RedDeth describes - The regular updates, and lack of eyecandy and pointless bloat features, reflect a system built by someone with passion for what he's doing. And I'll always go with a system like that where possible.

XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 06:23 PM
I use Hyperlobby - beacause at least back when I bought IL-2 when it came out, Ubi.com well... sucked!. It suffered from the mplayer syndrome - lots of fancy but cryptic icons that don't give you any info at all (there wasn't even an easy way to find out a server's ping - and a numerical ping wasn't available at all). And it required me to change my IE settings, install ActiveX controls etc. - and I don't even use IE as my browser! They would've been much better off with a stand-alone program like Hyperlobby than with a browser-dependant solution like Ubi.com...

So, I want to ask the people who use Ubi.com: has it improved since then?


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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 07:22 PM
gnolam wrote:
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- So, I want to ask the people who use Ubi.com: has it
- improved since then?
-

Yes. Tenfold. Have you UBI haters even been on UBI in the last several months? It DOES list server/game settings. It DOES NOT send spam emails or newsletters (I have yet to get one). It DOES NOT consist only of noobs who have never heard of HL. I've been flying UBI 1/12 years and there are plenty of other "experienced" pilots who fly there as well. (Yes, there are noobs present much as anywhere and we are there to help them become better pilots, not bash them for being noobs.) I have never had a problem with the software...due to bloat or anything else. Personally, I find it a much easier to use interface than HL. Yes, you can just click and play.

I understand UBI went through some growing pains in the early days, thus many of you may be jaded. But UBI was almost completely redone with FB. It's a sound program and is very competitve with HL in every way. IMO. The big difference I see is the people on UBI tend to be happier and don't argue as much. (Except for a few certain VMF_214 guys... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif )

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XyZspineZyX
07-06-2003, 08:01 PM
LOL, VMF-214 is on HL too. I ended up banning the whole squad from my scripted server. Which makes them the only people currently banned. Trust me, they had to work at it pretty hard at it for me to ban them/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif .

Anyways, back to topic. I drop by ubi.com occasionally. I was there at GG server for about an hour last night and had a generally good time. It was a bit laggy (22 players were there) but still playable. The players were mostly newbies with 1 or 2 regulars (by HL standards). I still hate the ubi.com setup, it isn't any where near as simple or functional as HL is. But atleast it actually runs now which is a big improvement over what it was a year ago. In my oppinion, Ubi.com has gone from non-functional to a second rate service similer to gamespy (free version).

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07-07-2003, 12:22 AM
*bump*

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 11:37 AM
Quote from maj Death : "" Ubi.com consists mostly of newbies ""
not true , most of the population at UBI are squad members

Quote from maj Death : ""And that is one of the reasons why the settings are usually full unreal ""
not true , most of the servers are settings 90% turned on



Message Edited on 07/07/0310:44AM by WUAF_Badsight

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 11:39 AM
JG27_Aristo wrote : ""I really wish people would understand the software ""
the intrusions & entry attempts i get at HL do not happen at UBI

fluke39
07-07-2003, 11:51 AM
it seems many people that fly HL think that UBI has many 'problems 'or whatever
i have to say i have never experienced one even minor glitch since i started playing there since FB was released (3-4 months?)

and as (most) people say they have not experienced many issues with HL it seems the only difference (to me) would just be the different hosts (+settings) and flying probably with more familar names.

then again i may experience problems with it like a few have said here

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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 12:19 PM
Hyper Lobby is a more efficent program on your bandwidth .... games seem to run a little bit less laggy there

you will never avoid Lag wherever you fly on the internet & lag & warping & freezes are better & worse at different times but when i fly at HL it seems to be , on the whole ( i.e. not all the time ) less laggy ( slighty )

XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 12:35 PM
When IL-2 was first released, I tried UBI.com for playing. It was... less than ideal. Squad-mates told me about HyperLobby and I've played IL-2 and FB through HL since then.

I recently decided to try UBI again, and after messing around with a lot of bad links I finally found the right installer package for the service (the one on the FB CD didn't work for me). Once installed, it seemed to work pretty well. I've flown there several times in the last month, and generally had as good a time as any I've had via HL.

Both services do what they intend to do. There is a wider variety of flight-sims available to fly on HL since it's not affiliated with any certain publisher, but UBI also allows multi-player access to other gaming genres that UBI publishes.

Both services are useful tools... no need to choose one or the other. Grab them both and enjoy.



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XyZspineZyX
07-07-2003, 12:53 PM
since you don't have to choose the new PM of your country or a monotheistic goddness, just install both (one doesn't kill the other...), play on both lobbies, have fun and eventually choose the one you enjoy most /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
I think that both have advantages and disadvantages. At the end the choice will mostly depend on the number of friends you have on one place or the other.

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