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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 02:34 PM
May I just ask you all to take a moment to show appreciation, and gratification, in a game, that has far surpassed any simulator of its genre.

No doubt we have all said this before in the past, but when I look at what is on the cards in November for this game. And when I think back to the memories of the games I've played and how much fun it was.

Personally...I can't show my love for this game enough. It has managed to be complex and yet very welcomming at the same time. You play and play for nights getting shot down and seldom damaging a fellow players kite, and yet, never do you give up, never do you think this is a waste of time.

The desire to get off the ground and have the burning, broken, beaten, enimies tumbled down beneath you, is never taken away.

Even one of the bad points which some gamers hate, personally I love. The vulching to me gives such a sense of excitement to the vulcher, and dread to the helpless one below trying to squeeze all he can out the engine and some how dodge and weave through his comrades, the ones unfrotunate left burning, and the ones alike to him hoping to get in the air before the trail of led gives them a similiar fate to the fallen.

You only have to watch a few minutes of the history channel showing world war 2 scenes taken live from arial warfair, to realise how close this game comes...to what they experienced.


The sense of triumph you get when you down that plane you have chased through flak, friends trying to get a kill them selves, and your victims wingmen trying to shake you, is not felt in any other game. You really work for your glory.


So... All in all..thank you UBI. Here is a game that has not only made online gamming a real addiction to the flight simulator enthusasts, but which has also proved, detail in a game does not always mean the cost of this is the sheer fun of it.


Hope I haven't bored you all. I know i'm not the first and wont be the last...But I simply had to show my love for a game that to me wil always stick out as a classic game of all time.

Your's

StilleNachT.

XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 02:34 PM
May I just ask you all to take a moment to show appreciation, and gratification, in a game, that has far surpassed any simulator of its genre.

No doubt we have all said this before in the past, but when I look at what is on the cards in November for this game. And when I think back to the memories of the games I've played and how much fun it was.

Personally...I can't show my love for this game enough. It has managed to be complex and yet very welcomming at the same time. You play and play for nights getting shot down and seldom damaging a fellow players kite, and yet, never do you give up, never do you think this is a waste of time.

The desire to get off the ground and have the burning, broken, beaten, enimies tumbled down beneath you, is never taken away.

Even one of the bad points which some gamers hate, personally I love. The vulching to me gives such a sense of excitement to the vulcher, and dread to the helpless one below trying to squeeze all he can out the engine and some how dodge and weave through his comrades, the ones unfrotunate left burning, and the ones alike to him hoping to get in the air before the trail of led gives them a similiar fate to the fallen.

You only have to watch a few minutes of the history channel showing world war 2 scenes taken live from arial warfair, to realise how close this game comes...to what they experienced.


The sense of triumph you get when you down that plane you have chased through flak, friends trying to get a kill them selves, and your victims wingmen trying to shake you, is not felt in any other game. You really work for your glory.


So... All in all..thank you UBI. Here is a game that has not only made online gamming a real addiction to the flight simulator enthusasts, but which has also proved, detail in a game does not always mean the cost of this is the sheer fun of it.


Hope I haven't bored you all. I know i'm not the first and wont be the last...But I simply had to show my love for a game that to me wil always stick out as a classic game of all time.

Your's

StilleNachT.

XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 02:48 PM
I know where you're coming from, being an old "Counter Stike" FPS shooter myself. I've done these FPS games since Quake 2 , right up to BF1942, and onward but never before have I found the immersiveness like this game. The amount of detail in the game as well the work you have to do to get it, the memory of a million buttons to push and the stress of just getting to the battle to have yourself shot down in seconds is exciting. A lot more thinking and work goes into the game as compared to FPS games gives me more to think about, better than playing "Dust" map in CS over and over again.

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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 02:52 PM
Ditto...

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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 03:15 PM
Your attitude is a breath of fresh air. Welcome /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 06:39 PM
Right on brus. Loaded CFS2 last night since i couldnt remember how it was, played for an hour, uninstalled and straight back to FB. Long live FB!

Zayets
10-16-2003, 06:53 PM
Thx alot for your post , I was about to play some GTA , looks like I will spend my night in HL.

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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 07:05 PM
>>>RE: IL2 Sturmovik. Second to NONE!

What`s this NONE game? Is it released yet?

XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 07:07 PM
IL2 and IL2:FB are the greatest computer games I've ever played. And I've been playing computer games for almost 20 years. I wonder how many others feel this way.

S!

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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 07:36 PM
SKULLS_LZ wrote:
- IL2 and IL2:FB are the greatest computer games I've
- ever played. And I've been playing computer games
- for almost 20 years. I wonder how many others feel
- this way.
-
- S!
-

I've been in Oleg's Matrix for 3 years.

Don't show me blue and red pill cause I don't want to go out.

I'm a decent German pilot! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


Hey, it's far beyond ordinary game. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 07:47 PM
I do agree! I spend a couple of hours almost every day playing FB. This is an awesome game!

GATO_LOCO

XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 08:21 PM
Couldn't agree more. I've been in Afghanistan for six months, and second to seeing my wife, I am dying to play some IL-2 on my new monster computer. Of course, in three days, I will be able to.

Like you said, no matter what, you just want to take off, fly around, engage the enemy with honor, and hope to make it home with your comrades. This game is so great in every aspect. I'm not a real pilot, so maybe the little things dont' bother me as much. I am a history buff, but I'm also a realist and I know that the millions of lines of code that have to be written for these games sometimes makes bugs and absolute historical accuracy a fact of life. It doesn't bother me one bit. This team of guys (Oleg and Crew) do their best to make these games what they are...second to none. And they work overtime to fix bugs and mistakes. What other company does that? Not MS. What we have here is a bunch of guys who listen to their fans, ask them what they want, and do their utmost to deliver, often times in free addons and tons of patches. And frankly, they come closer than any of us could do. And we have to understand that deadlines when it comes to a job like this are foolish. Roll with the punches. I'd rather have something with less bugs come out late, than something that is inaccurate and bug ridden come out on time...see any MS operating system.

So I just count my blessings, count the days, and boot up my computer. Because there isn't anything on the market now that I'd play over IL-2/FB. And in two years, when BoB comes out, I'll snatch it up. Much like I'll be doing with the pay addon that will soon come out.

Glad to see this kind of sentiment on the Forums...I dont' post much because of where I am...but I read every day. Thanks a lot guys and gals. Keep flying.

Semper Fi!
HD Allison

XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 08:28 PM
Yes, of course. We mustn`t forget it`s the best of its kind...

Ok, now where are the `stick-in-the-muds`? They always arrive around now... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 08:31 PM
Right on, my friend, surely my all-time favorite since Battle of Britain: Their Finest Hour(anybody remember?).

XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 08:47 PM
very nice post sir and welcome.........Red_Russian13 thank you for your service.

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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 09:18 PM
Here here! Thanks for the great post and welcome to the family!

It truly is amazing how immersive this game is. Even when I let myself get a bit sucked up into that whining mentality - one moment I'll be thinking "how could that La-5 catch up to me", next moment I'll be grinning as I manage to perform a perfect BnZ and take out the same La-5 in one short burst.
We have to remember that although it isn't always 100% accurate, it is the best we have and is always 100% immersive (barring any sound/graphical bugs).
There's no greater feeling than the rush of a tough dogfight.

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XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 09:34 PM
Thanks Red Russian for service over seas,and to all the other service men and women of the armed services(I think about the men and women in harms way everyday).About IL2, FB I could not agree more on how much fun I have with this game.I play about everyday,and get upset at myself when I stink up a mission or my wingman gets shot down.I think thats one of the reasons I love FB is you can always try and get better at each kind of mission.Plus I like eye candy in a game,I mean when I am heading for home its nice to just look around and enjoy the scenry.I tryed some other WW II flight sims and just did not like the game for one reason or another.Maybe its because you really feel like your part of the game and or mission that puts FB ahead of other FS.All together I have played close to 160 missions and my computer has locked up 1 time,and to me that means that ubi has there software running great.I am playing the experten campaign right now.Experten has an immersive story line that I wish future add ons to FB would have(BOB).I have all the Ghost Recon games(great game),Rainbow six 3 and I have a pre order for Lock-On.I know its down the road alittle but I will get B O B for sure when it comes out.Thank You ubi for making a great game(FB).

XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 09:43 PM
True, second to none, cannt wait to see new work from developers, doesnt matter what theater it will be

XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 10:10 PM
RR_13, the Afghan thing reminds me of a sharp pic I got of polikarpov R~5 biplane mail carriers (P~5s) parked in a barren valley in Turkestan 1933. This thing has HUGE tires. Maybe Oleg could do a Mongolia map or something. (there is rumour somebody is modding the R~5)


Red_Russian13::
-- I'm not a real pilot, so maybe the little things dont'
-- bother me as much.

Nobody here is a real pilot with any experience important to simming Eastern Front flying. Of course, we all sim the Aces and wear Their skins as our own. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 10:11 PM
Anyone here tried B17Flying Fortress? It's not up there with IL2 FB, but it is also very fun if you're into WWII flight sims in general. Not only can you man 10 different areas in the B17, but you can also switch to the friendly and enemy fighters if you prefer dogfighting to bombing, turret gunning or navigating. It takes some time to get the commands for the different positions down, but once you do, its worth the trouble. You also can choose to be a squadron commander, and plan different strategies for a whole squadron of B17s, and the single player mission approach is similar to that in FB. CFS3 is also quite good for pure dogfighting, but either of these games are a notch below the IL2 series. Graphics alone put IL2 head and shoulders above any other WWII flight sim I've played

XyZspineZyX
10-16-2003, 11:44 PM
Bump.

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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 12:04 AM
I agree with all above. Utterly immersive, quite brilliant.

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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 12:08 AM
I bought both IL2 games but I rarely play them since I'm in school. But yes, they are tyhe BEST flgiht sims I've ever played.

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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 12:18 AM
I agree 100% with the initial post /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

This IS the best PC game I've ever played /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 12:22 AM
Second to none is right! IL2FB is the one I've been waiting for since AOE /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Dennis

XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 12:28 AM
I totally agree with the thrust of
this thread.
I have little experience with PC games.
Il2 & FB are the only ones I have really tried.
Can't see the point of trying any others,really.
For an old scalemodeler/aviation buff,these are
the bees knees.
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My thanks to Mr Maddox & the rest of the
Great good team.

XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 12:55 AM
I've tried a lot of different games/sims but none of them have even come within a universe of IL-2/FB. Even with all the problems trying to get it to run well (That's almost as challenging as the sim itself...lol) it's still worth it. I put almost as much effort into FB as I do in persuing members of our fairer sex. And that's saying a lot!

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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 01:14 AM
Try putting ANY time into the sim once the fairer sex has been conquered /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 01:20 AM
I agree. Its a great sim. The emersion is wonderful. When its good, you really get into it. Some things need to be addressed, but hopefully will be fixed in next patch.

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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 01:50 AM
Rogodin wrote:
- Try putting ANY time into the sim once the fairer
- sex has been conquered


I don't have to bother trying to conquer, I just show up on the front lines and surrender./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 07:31 AM
Couldn't agree more. I'll play a game for 4-6 weeks, win or give up and maybe...just maybe...reload it 2 months later and try again. Only a few games would stay on my computer longer. these are the exceptions:

Janes WW II Fighters, 2 1/2 months. My first computer game. Would have played it longer but then I discovered...

EAW, 8 months. Played the Battle of Britain campagin over and over and over...

Half-Life, 7 months. to date my favorite FPS. It will be the only game to challenge Il-2, and still they will reside side-by-side on my HD....if it's as good as pomised.

Black & White, 5 months. Now who can't resist playing god?

Morrowind, 6 months. Probably, for me at least, the best RPG.

Need For Speed/Porsche Unleashed, 6 months. Great driving physics and one of the best looking racing games.

Dirt Trak Racing. 4 months. Excellent driving physics. It took a long time to win in the 'Full Real' mode.

Powerslide, 3 months. An older title, the precursor to DTR with devilishly difficult driving physics.

I loaded demo after demo trying to find another great game. Can't seem to do it because...

I finally bought IL-2 this last spring and FB this summer. I have played no other game since installing IL-2 and I can't imagine a day without trying yet again outfly and outfight each enemy plane I see. I have yet to get bored or find myself thinking about trying something else. The immersion factor is fantastic. I can put up with the little (comparetivly) bugs in the game. Sure I'll try LoMac. It's looks sweet. I can't wait for BoB. But at this time I can't see un-installing IL-2/FB, it is truly an amazing game.





Message Edited on 10/16/03 11:32PM by Beebop-PBNA

Message Edited on 10/16/0311:33PM by Beebop-PBNA

XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 10:33 AM
Its second to Forgotten Battles http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 01:08 AM
Amen Brother. Oleg has made the best computer games I have ever played bar none.

XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 08:42 PM
IL2/FB are both classics and are at a certain level that goes with Grand Prix Legends, Nascar 2002, Grand Prix 3/4 and other classics. They are not perfect but nothing is. 1C seems to realise it is in their long term interests to continually refine their product. These games are elegant software and there isn't many programs that statement can be applied to.

PW

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 01:14 AM
her here

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 01:17 AM
You are right. This game is simply incredible...nothing comes close.



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