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Saburo_0
11-16-2004, 08:46 PM
Any chance of a flyable Ki-44 ? It's the perfect fighter in between the Ki- 43 & the Ki-84. Great climb rate & a Suweet looking little ride-big up front, & slender in the back.

Saburo_0
11-16-2004, 08:46 PM
Any chance of a flyable Ki-44 ? It's the perfect fighter in between the Ki- 43 & the Ki-84. Great climb rate & a Suweet looking little ride-big up front, & slender in the back.

LEXX_Luthor
11-16-2004, 09:16 PM
*bump* for Flyable Ki~44 -- Japanese "MiG~3"

...and Flyable Ki~27 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

VW-IceFire
11-16-2004, 09:18 PM
Ki-45 AI would be nice as well... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

woofiedog
11-16-2004, 10:53 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gifKi-27! Yes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Feathered_IV
11-17-2004, 02:00 AM
Gimme Gimme......

Actually, not much cockpit data exists from this extinct fighter. However, when you think about what we do know - We know what the instrument panel, seat and canopy release mechanism look like. We also know what the standard Nakajima rudder pedals, gunsite and trottle arrangements were. As well as Nakajima's method of fuselage construction.

Perhaps some gifted person could make a proffesional and informed extrapolation of the Ki44's office for inclusion in the sim. If paleoentologists and archaeologists can do this sort of thing in their line of work. I'm sure Oleg can do the same without fear of persecution. If more information surfaces later on that contradicts his - He can always include it in Pacific Fighters 2.

Ruy Horta
11-17-2004, 06:43 AM
The general data for the Ki 44 is excellent when it comes to the dashboard and the left side of the cockpit, seat and rear can be more or less reconstructed from photos and drawings.

This leaves us with the RIGHT side of the cockpit. From drawings I could place on or two controls there (but their exact look?), IMHO the only way to make this side is to look at the Ki-43 and "reconstruct an authentic look", unless some Japanese fellow stands up with some factory data or handbook.

The question is would a Ki 43 style RIGHT side be crime?

Personally the Ki 44 is one of my faborite Japanese fighters, together with the J2M.

Actually the Ki 45 would be fairly easy in tearms of available cockpit data.

NegativeGee
11-17-2004, 07:51 AM
Bump for the Shoki http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

If we were to get a flyable what model would people like to see?

For me I think the KI-44 IIc with a reflector sight would do very nicely. Most produced variant IIRC.

Saburo_0
11-17-2004, 02:45 PM
beggars can't be choosers....it wouldn't be that hard to do them all would it ??

pic:
http://www.win-the-lotto.com/u/04/321/16/Ki4446.jpg

jeanba2
11-17-2004, 03:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Saburo_0:
Any chance of a flyable Ki-44 ? It's the perfect fighter in between the Ki- 43 & the Ki-84. Great climb rate & a Suweet looking little ride-big up front, & slender in the back. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If this is the official Tojo whiner topic : I subscribe !!!

AlmightyTallest
11-17-2004, 03:52 PM
Hehe, never hurts to have more aircraft to choose from, I'm for it's inclusion into PF if it's possible.

goshikisen
11-20-2004, 10:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Saburo_0:
Any chance of a flyable Ki-44 ? It's the perfect fighter in between the Ki- 43 & the Ki-84. Great climb rate & a Suweet looking little ride-big up front, & slender in the back. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bump for the Shoki. The IJN gets the Raiden... might as well balance it out with the IJA interceptor as well.

Stiglr
11-20-2004, 11:46 AM
As long as you can find a Maru Mechanic, you should be fairly golden on most Japanese planes:

Sorry for the lossy grabs, but file size is always an issue...

http://www.naysayers.com/ShokiB_pit2.JPG
There's your standard Ki-44 pit...

http://www.naysayers.com/ShokiB_pit.JPG

Along with left...

http://www.naysayers.com/ShokiB_pit3.JPG
And right sides.

Wing variation is due to the fact that I took grabs from -B and -C models. So, different skins.

DuxCorvan
11-20-2004, 11:57 AM
Oh no, it's that Targetware infiltrated agent again!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

(joke)

Stiglr
11-20-2004, 12:03 PM
Well, somebody asked, so it's fair to say simply that you CAN fly a Shoki if you want to...

The one with the 40mm gun is nice...I sawed the wing clean off a P-40 that scissored under me. Of course, you don't get many rounds for that gun, but it's plenty effective.

The Shoki flies sort of like half Oscar, half Focke Wulf. It can turn, but it has a nasty snap tendency that you have to plan for. I don't pretend to have a lot of stick time in these, these impressions are based on maybe 5 total sorties, all but one (a lawndart) which I survived.

LeadSpitter_
11-20-2004, 01:51 PM
I think its really historically needed in PF as flyable
same with the geroge and raiden. along with these essential aircraft.

ki27
ki43II
ki44
b5n2 kate are really needed for japan.

DuxCorvan
11-20-2004, 02:22 PM
Yes, we need those.

And, Stiglr, thanks for the pics. I think myself that the Targetware projects are impressive and worth of praise efforts. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

JAF77_Gamera
11-20-2004, 02:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
I think its really historically needed in PF as flyable
same with the geroge and raiden. along with these essential aircraft.

ki27
ki43II
ki44
b5n2 kate are really needed for japan. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, what he said!

Aero_Shodanjo
11-20-2004, 02:30 PM
Ki 44 got a 40mm cannon? Err,... wow!

A.K.Davis
11-20-2004, 03:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aero_Shodanjo:
Ki 44 got a 40mm cannon? Err,... wow! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A few did. They were used "point blank" against B-29s over Japan. Actually not a cannon. More like an automatic recoilless rifle. The rounds were self-contained units that propelled themselves out of the gun tube. Pretty low velocity, so the Ki-44 pilot had to get real close.