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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 03:29 PM
http://files.ausgamers.com:81/medalofhonor/media/mohpa_tech_101703_4_hi.mov

For those who hasnt seen this before /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Check other 3 movies as well.

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 03:29 PM
http://files.ausgamers.com:81/medalofhonor/media/mohpa_tech_101703_4_hi.mov

For those who hasnt seen this before /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Check other 3 movies as well.

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"Flying is not dangerous, crashing is"http://www.airmodel.com/airmodel/Images/stuka_fly_md_clr.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 03:32 PM
Here's other 3.
http://files.ausgamers.com:81/medalofhonor/media/mohpa_tech_101703_3_hi.mov

http://files.ausgamers.com:81/medalofhonor/media/mohpa_tech_101703_1_hi.mov

http://files.ausgamers.com:81/medalofhonor/media/mohpa_tech_101703_2_hi.mov

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"Flying is not dangerous, crashing is"http://www.airmodel.com/airmodel/Images/stuka_fly_md_clr.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 03:59 PM
how can i watch those?

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Zayets
10-27-2003, 04:01 PM
Install Apple Quick player.

Zayets out

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 04:33 PM
hmm... LOL with a tommygun!

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 05:06 PM
The thompson mg / tommygun with spindal clip was .45 cal, it would be a snowballs chance in hell to shootdown a 600kmph plane with one and if you ever shot a thompson you know the recoil is pretty nice http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 09:34 PM
AHHHHH! The 12 year old crowd will LOVE it! The younger the market skews to, the lower the quality goes.


Now just imagine if they put their modelling talent towards a flyable B17!

Col. Tibbetts

XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 09:59 PM
Quick Time = Spyware.......

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 10:00 PM
Whoa whoa whoa hey hey hey. I'm 13, and my bro is now 15 (turned 15 on Oct. 17). Yeah, we like the idea, but we think it's a little far-fetched. Either way, being 13 or 12 doesn't mean us kids say "Golly-gee whilikers! I shooted down a plane!"

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XyZspineZyX
10-27-2003, 10:24 PM
Kradreve wrote:
- how can i watch those?
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More like:

"I can't believe I watched those....."

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:15 AM
I could *maybe* see it if it was the BAR, but even in the original game, both the Tompson and the BAR had far to much spread to hit anything at range.

From what I understand, the MoH series has gone rather down hill since most of its original dev team left. Looks like Call of Duty is going to be a much better game than MoH:Pacific.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:24 AM
Although unlikely, I must disagree with some who have already posted their opines that it would be near impossible to shoot down a plane with a Tommy gun.
If the plane was extremely low and coming towards you,
even at high speed it would be easy to hit actually.
Whether or not it would do enough damage would be another
topic entirely. But some fighters with glycol cooled engines just might take a really bad hit in an unfortunate
place. Someone on the boards once posted that a B-17 tail
gunner once shot a messer with a revolver and killed the pilot. I think with luck, anything is possible, so I don't discount that claim entirely either. Unlikely, but you never know. Planes have been down by light ground fire before.


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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:26 AM
every flyer... past and present.. fears the golden BB

a extremely lucky shot to a sensitive piece of the aircraft with a small calbre round.

but yeah.. snowballs chance in hell of it happening.

MOH.. based of private ryan but with no blood to get a PG13 rating..

nice one guys !



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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:50 AM
With enough people shooting at it(Von Ryan's Express, it looked rather cheesy but it's actually a fairly look representation), they might hit the engine or the pilot himself. Mind you, this way ALOT more common practice when planes were flying at 150kph in WWI. In WW2 the only really endorsed small arms used were AA-modified MG15s, MG34s, MG42s, Brownings, and Vickerses, iirc. Of course whatever you had you're obviously going to point skywards and fire.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 06:54 AM
Well in Vietnam, the communist vietnamese were told to fire their guns, any guns, at any aircraft they saw. Yeah a 1 in million chance they will hit anything, but if 2 million people shoot, thats 2 less planes to worry about. Also great for morale. Rather than cowering in a hole and feeling awful, you can stand proud and help 'defend' your land.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 08:26 AM
The Vietcong shot down 1,000's of U.S. Choppers in Vietnam. Many with small arms. The biggest weapon they had was the 14.5mm heavy MG, and more often they had just 12.7mm or 7.62mm.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 05:14 PM
This reminds me off an exhibit that is at the Darwin Aviation Museum in Australia.

There are the (fairly intact) remains of a A6M2 Zero that was shot down during the atacks on Darwin in 1942.

It had run out of fuel and had eventually belly landed in Australian territory. The only damage to the plane- a single .303 rifle round that had holed the fuel tank and caused it to empty.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 05:39 PM
1. The Huey's had paper mache for armor
2. A helicopter is a big fat target that hangs around in the air just waiting to be shot down when inserting/extracting troops.
3. The Huey has windshields that say "insert small arms fire here"

This is why the Russians designed the Mi-24 Hind http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif analyzing wreckage kindly left behind by the US.

You cannot, never, ever damage a plane with a thompson, it's .45 penetration power is not enough to punch through the duralumin skin, the angle will be, most of the times, oblique. This means that your rds will have even less relative penetration power.

The Mv is low, the range is too low and the spread is .. well..crap, after 80m. Heck even hitting a plane with a thompson is bollox.

Now bringing down an airplane with an MG42 or MG34 (or any other MG) converted for the AA role is another thing, these things have a way more powerful cartridge, less spread at distances and higher ROF. Not to mention the vastly superior ammo load of MGs.

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The_Blue_Devil
10-28-2003, 07:27 PM
LeadSpitter_ wrote:
- The thompson mg / tommygun with spindal clip was .45
- cal, it would be a snowballs chance in hell to
- shootdown a 600kmph plane with one and if you ever
- shot a thompson you know the recoil is pretty nice
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Boyington said you could shoot down a fighter with a well placed coconut. if the enemy plane is going 600kph plus the bullet going supersonic the converging speed would do damage right there. Remember that if you hit a bird while flying it shatters or dents what ever part of the a/c it hit, imagine a burst of gunfire hitting a critical part of the a/c in question.

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