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cawimmer430
01-26-2007, 02:37 AM
From YouTube. They're in German, but I guess the pictures and footage is good. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Video 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGS-6nksJr4

Video 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW9VRrQHQfk

Gibbage1
01-26-2007, 02:48 AM
The Bachem Natter. The very definition of desperate.

AWL_Spinner
01-26-2007, 03:05 AM
The very definition of desperate

Yawn.

cawimmer430, thanks for posting. We really need a nice big YouTube sticky with entries under each aircraft type for the referencing pleasure of this forum.

cawimmer430
01-26-2007, 03:23 AM
Good idea. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Krizz1972
01-26-2007, 03:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8KnoEcsM94

Horten IX

cawimmer430
01-26-2007, 03:41 AM
Originally posted by Krizz1972:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8KnoEcsM94

Horten IX

THANKS. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Krizz1972
01-26-2007, 04:46 AM
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=7620890100890480&q=me+262

Me262 at the ILA2006 in Berlin

Mr_Nakajima
01-26-2007, 09:15 AM
If you are after a book on the Natter I can recommend this one:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Mr_Nakajima/Natter.jpg

Classic Publications
Brett Gooden
ISBN-13/EAN: 9781903223628
ISBN-10: 1903223628

Very thorough, well written, full of interesting information. Debatable whether it is an aircraft or a manned missile. Either way, I wouldn't want to fly in one.

Feathered_IV
01-26-2007, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Gibbage1:
The Bachem Natter. The very definition of desperate.

Desperate in as much as I was mad keen to fly this thing back when 1946 was first announced. Can't believe they didn't model that one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Heliopause
01-27-2007, 02:37 AM
Nice footage:

Some translation:
Speer didn't like it. The SS gave the go ahead.
SS team ,craftsmen were used to build te plane.
Nov. 1st 1944: Glide test carried out with pilot Klockner. "The war went bad, I knew it, but I had to do my thing".
Test was succesfull behind a He-111.

2 SS officers force him to conduct a normal flight. He disagrea's, His opinion as a testpilot wasn't taken into account.
December 44: Holberg, first tests, launches without pilot. Use of the 4 external rockets only.
22-12-44 first launch, Natter crashes not far from launchsite.
A couple of weeks later a second launch. Parachute tears and plane crashes.

Because of a mistake during guard dutie Lothar siebert is put down a couple off ranks. He can get is officer rank back if he flies the plane.
2 tests with the main rocket engine have been performed prior to the first manned launch: the engine blew up.
1st of march '45: shortly before 18:00hrs the Natter lifts off, for the first manned start, at 600m height it loses the cockpit hood. After a number of seconds the plane comes straight down crashing.

Feathered_IV
01-27-2007, 03:16 AM
Bloody Hell! Thanks for the translation http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Pretty dramatic stuff. What is an "SS craftsman" though? Is that a polite way of saying slave?

noace
01-27-2007, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
Bloody Hell! Thanks for the translation http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Pretty dramatic stuff. What is an "SS craftsman" though? Is that a polite way of saying slave?

No it really means SS members wer bulding the plane. But the speaker mentions that they were unfit for combat duty. Previously wounded and crippled ones.

noace

Badsight-
01-27-2007, 04:46 AM
just amazing to have footage of a Go-229

but to see it flying under its own power - unbelieveable! , was only said to have done like 3 flights :O

thats one vid thats going in with the Shinden footage

Mr_Nakajima
01-27-2007, 12:56 PM
From the above book, the SS workforce was 120 technicians knows as Sonderkommando Waldsee. They were invalided soldiers, and unarmed.

In addition there were women, prisoners-of-war, and deportees from occupied countries (i.e. forced labour) involved in the manufacture. Their treatment is claimed to have been better than that involved in other contemporary German industries.

Lothar Sieber's 'mistake on guard duty' was to drink alcohol. He was demoted and only a personal plea to Goring by his father stopped him serving a four-month sentence. Seiber seems to have volunteered to fly the Natter to regain his rank.

cawimmer430
01-27-2007, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Mr_Nakajima:
Seiber seems to have volunteered to fly the Natter to regain his rank.

Yep, and it cost him his life. At least he was buried with full military honors and as a Leutnant if I remember correctly from the video. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Waldo.Pepper
01-27-2007, 02:12 PM
Of course it is not the 'right' flying wing but It is a neat shot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/flying%20wing/xp-79b_12.jpg

BlitzPig_DDT
01-27-2007, 02:36 PM
Notice how stable the glider wing was? No yaw issues at all. Reimar's bell shaped lift distribution curve at work - increasing yaw stability with lift.

The powered version was a sweet flying plane too. It only crashed because of engine failure which blew the hydraulics, and forced a gear down landing in mud, near trees, which hooked the gear, spun and flipped the plane into the trees and killed the pilot.

Too bad ours has been arbitrarily worsening, bit by bit in each patch for no apparent reason. The very first patch that included it was the best implimentation of it.

Great footage all around - of everything. Cool stuff.