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Fox_3
02-19-2007, 11:26 AM
Great article covering the VVS use of the Spifire Vb in the Kuban 1943.

http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/spit/index.htm

LStarosta
02-19-2007, 11:31 AM
What are those symbols of repression doing on that sweet airframe of freedom?

Xiolablu3
02-19-2007, 12:18 PM
Very nice read, thanks!

It shows the real danger of introducing a new type into service without proper education for ALL your troops for ID purposes.

'Our colleagues flying red-starred Yaks also took their shots. At 1712, in the area of Mingrelskaya, an eight-ship flight of Yaks conducted two attacks on the Spitfires. At 1740 in the area of Abinskaya, another group of 12 Yaks, having attacked the pilots of 57th GIAP, just the same achieved a victory and one Spitfire pilot had to belly-land his aircraft. It should be noted that the Airacobras of 45th IAP and 16th GIAP were also subject to attacks by the Yaks. On this same day, at 0950, a pair of Yaks attempted for eight minutes to drive to ground the aircraft of Guards Major Kryukov from 16th GIAP'

Lots of friendly fire on the SPitfires.

tomtheyak
02-19-2007, 12:37 PM
I wrote a summary of the battle, in which I noted the appearance of the Spitfires on the Eastern front. My group commander asked me for the time being not to discuss what had happened. ˜Perhaps you were mistaken, Rall? All this will only alarm your comrades.'



**tight-lipped**

I'm not gonna say a word... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Xiolablu3
02-19-2007, 12:44 PM
I think they did quite well with the Spits to say they were flying a 2 year old, strange type with worn out engines. Also that they were flying below their best altitude, these SPitfire Vbs performed much better at far higher altitudes.

Didnt the Russians also recieve some Spitfire IXc's at some point?

tomtheyak
02-19-2007, 01:17 PM
Yeah, I think a PVO (Air Defence Unit - like a dedicated interceptor group for an area that wasn't involved in or tied to tactical support of the army at the front) Guards Regiment in the Leningrad area received some IXc (& 'e'?) in late '44 early '45. I'll check my sources.

mandrill7
02-19-2007, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by tomtheyak:
Yeah, I think a PVO (Air Defence Unit - like a dedicated interceptor group for an area that wasn't involved in or tied to tactical support of the army at the front) Guards Regiment in the Leningrad area received some IXc (& 'e'?) in late '44 early '45. I'll check my sources.

I think about 1,000 spit IX's were in fact delivered to PVo units.

woofiedog
02-19-2007, 02:56 PM
Excellent article... Thank's for posting. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif