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LuckyBoy1
04-02-2005, 06:01 AM
I've been working on a new edition of Luckyboy's Guide For Complete Users. My intention is to make this the last edition of the Guide as it relates to IL-2. Why? Because we are going to get the last patch for the game and after that, the game will pretty much be set in mud so to speak. Of course, the next patch will substantially change the game engine... and for the better and more complex as I've been told, yet at the same time it will be more demanding of our computers.

Lemme tell you my reasoning behind putting out the Guide and then we can go from there. The whole idea behind the Guide is to promote the game by making it easier for regular, every day type folks to get the game to run well on their every day computer. As a result, the Guide is very, very... well, let's use the kind way of describing it... it's wordy at best! I felt it wasn't good enough to just tell the User in question to do this or that. I felt they needed real world examples of why they needed to do this or that. The end result is this very wordy diatribe that includes my old Dell upgrade saga along with my experiences with internet security issues as well as my psychotic diatribe on power and heating issues. I feel stuck with kinda a double edged sword here. If I make it too wordy, people will look at the Guide and go... you gotta be kidding me, I'm not reading all this! At the same time, if you do not fully explain yourself, many people who already feel intimidated by the game and computers in general will not get the benefit of the information.

Let me tell you what I plan to change at this point and you add/edit whatever ideas you have. Remember, your ideas are AT LEAST as valid as mine if not more so...

1) I've added some information on my experiences with Trend Micro's PC-cillin Internet Security 2005.

2) Per Sunflower's request, I am adding a bit of information about backing up your conf.ini file for those who suffer from it becoming corrupted.

3) Even more information about power supplies! Yeah, I know, uhg! Still, with computers becoming more power hungry by the minute and all the problems we are having as a result, I feel it is needed.

4) I'm trying to come up with a easy to follow guide as to how and when and what to upgrade in your PC. The idea is to try and prevent folks from landing in Community Help with statements like...

I put my new Ultra card in my computer, but it really doesn't look or run better as a result.

Only to find out they're trying to push the video card with a Celeron or Duron Chip. Or equally as trajic...

I just bought a Gig of RDRAM

when we all know the money would have been better spent elsewhere... or maybe not depending on the needs.

5) I need someone to write up a step by step, follow your nose type instructions on how to set up a TeamSpeak server. If you are not willing to write out just about every mouse click along the way, don't bother even starting. However, anyone willing to do so will be fully credited for their efforts. If you are willing to do the job, please contact me at...

callingelvis911@yahoo.com

6) Links will be included to some other excellent guides such as Tully's supreme efforts on joysticks and Dieg777's efforts on the conf.ini file.

7) I also plan on including my spin on our lack of support for IL-2skins.com and other sites that we use, but refuse to support.

8) I also plan on including a bit of information on how to better get along with not just the mods, but the community in general when posting and reading these forums. To say that I am still on the learning curve on this one would be the understatement of the year! Odd as it may seem to some, many user types are in the same boat as me on this one. Many of us are NOT into other games and are older type folks who didn't grow up with computers or really understand computer type forums. Think about this for a minute... when I first came here, I thought people like steve v and Hunter82 were paid employees of UBISoft!

9) I plan on adding a section on joysticks and Track IR. So far, I'm not happy with the results because it simply looks like a CH fanboy report. Any ideas on that one would be appreciated. I know of several people who in spite of reliability problems love their X45 stick. I'm not trying to get them to justify the purchase so much as I'm trying to understand it.

So, be brutally honest and no offense will be taken.

LuckyBoy1
04-02-2005, 06:01 AM
I've been working on a new edition of Luckyboy's Guide For Complete Users. My intention is to make this the last edition of the Guide as it relates to IL-2. Why? Because we are going to get the last patch for the game and after that, the game will pretty much be set in mud so to speak. Of course, the next patch will substantially change the game engine... and for the better and more complex as I've been told, yet at the same time it will be more demanding of our computers.

Lemme tell you my reasoning behind putting out the Guide and then we can go from there. The whole idea behind the Guide is to promote the game by making it easier for regular, every day type folks to get the game to run well on their every day computer. As a result, the Guide is very, very... well, let's use the kind way of describing it... it's wordy at best! I felt it wasn't good enough to just tell the User in question to do this or that. I felt they needed real world examples of why they needed to do this or that. The end result is this very wordy diatribe that includes my old Dell upgrade saga along with my experiences with internet security issues as well as my psychotic diatribe on power and heating issues. I feel stuck with kinda a double edged sword here. If I make it too wordy, people will look at the Guide and go... you gotta be kidding me, I'm not reading all this! At the same time, if you do not fully explain yourself, many people who already feel intimidated by the game and computers in general will not get the benefit of the information.

Let me tell you what I plan to change at this point and you add/edit whatever ideas you have. Remember, your ideas are AT LEAST as valid as mine if not more so...

1) I've added some information on my experiences with Trend Micro's PC-cillin Internet Security 2005.

2) Per Sunflower's request, I am adding a bit of information about backing up your conf.ini file for those who suffer from it becoming corrupted.

3) Even more information about power supplies! Yeah, I know, uhg! Still, with computers becoming more power hungry by the minute and all the problems we are having as a result, I feel it is needed.

4) I'm trying to come up with a easy to follow guide as to how and when and what to upgrade in your PC. The idea is to try and prevent folks from landing in Community Help with statements like...

I put my new Ultra card in my computer, but it really doesn't look or run better as a result.

Only to find out they're trying to push the video card with a Celeron or Duron Chip. Or equally as trajic...

I just bought a Gig of RDRAM

when we all know the money would have been better spent elsewhere... or maybe not depending on the needs.

5) I need someone to write up a step by step, follow your nose type instructions on how to set up a TeamSpeak server. If you are not willing to write out just about every mouse click along the way, don't bother even starting. However, anyone willing to do so will be fully credited for their efforts. If you are willing to do the job, please contact me at...

callingelvis911@yahoo.com

6) Links will be included to some other excellent guides such as Tully's supreme efforts on joysticks and Dieg777's efforts on the conf.ini file.

7) I also plan on including my spin on our lack of support for IL-2skins.com and other sites that we use, but refuse to support.

8) I also plan on including a bit of information on how to better get along with not just the mods, but the community in general when posting and reading these forums. To say that I am still on the learning curve on this one would be the understatement of the year! Odd as it may seem to some, many user types are in the same boat as me on this one. Many of us are NOT into other games and are older type folks who didn't grow up with computers or really understand computer type forums. Think about this for a minute... when I first came here, I thought people like steve v and Hunter82 were paid employees of UBISoft!

9) I plan on adding a section on joysticks and Track IR. So far, I'm not happy with the results because it simply looks like a CH fanboy report. Any ideas on that one would be appreciated. I know of several people who in spite of reliability problems love their X45 stick. I'm not trying to get them to justify the purchase so much as I'm trying to understand it.

So, be brutally honest and no offense will be taken.

EURO_Snoopy
04-02-2005, 06:10 AM
Hi LB, your current guide is still very useful and current.
The main improvement could be inclusion of graphics with step by step explanations. It would make the guide considerably larger than the current version so I would divide it into chapters each dealing with Computers, security, software and then Il-2 for example.

dieg777
04-02-2005, 08:14 AM
luckyboy

How about including a step by step idiots guide about what you need to do to play online - there is info but it is spread all over the place so a concise guide to what software you need , (hyperlobby, teamspeak etc ) how to set up your pc, and what you need to do to play would be appreciated.

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CAPT_COTTON
04-02-2005, 09:31 AM
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I set my pc up from hunters stuff and then he sent me to luckyboy then i found airwarfare and now let me tell you what differnce a little or lot of tweaking will do for you.
Last nite[4-1-2005] i flew in a room and i had 366 ping and the rest showed between 60 and 150 a couple came in with 400+.304 room pacific fighters and all AAA on and carriers. it was set at 10 flyers [i think]Anyway i seen sligth studders over AAA and when somegot kicked. I have the (0) in front of cheat in the il18 file and that horriable word changed to lag SO that i read the names of lagers and mine too if comes up. the host had the auto kick on and set at 350 and during the coarse of the game a lot of names got kicked and some of there pings were down in the 60s. one or two kept coming back in and out they would go[shame]
I flew for one hour 30 mins.my name never came up and i got a whole score of 80[WOW]did a no no and shot a plane landing on carrier with all that AAA trying to shoot me and never seen a studder at all. Escorted two bombers too target and then one got kicked by auto on way to???
Now that i have bored the hell out of you.
I live in the woods in Winslow Arkanas USA for last 20 years and there is no cable and no dsl and no noise and no seven eleven and no walmart just 17 churches and they are on puters lookin at porn or makin crack so they dont borther me when i fly he he.
Thats rite iam on dialup and in Hyper Lobby you may see me with 120 pings and in UBI it trys to stay around 170 pings. Everything that is not used in this harddrive is gone the only thing left is explorer and the game and i have two harddrives and the four prong wire on back of harddrive is diconnected to the other drive when i am flying so they are not slaved together.my processer is p4-2.4mhzs 88sumtin.my MB is a AS Rock with 800mzhs buss speed and 4 slots for memery ihave 1500 drr ram memery in it now run xp program with sp2 and firwall but its off most time it is disk cleaned and defragrad everytime i go to go on line and use task manager to turn of all programs till there is only 12 left.
TEST on your machine he he .Open your skin files in merged and see how long you can count tooo before all the thumbnails open. when my pc is ready to fly they open in the blink of and eye or sooner. i just built this custom pc and still tweacking it i was on line just a month ago with a emachine with alton 1600 processer and 1000 ddr memery same vido card thou ATI 9200 with 265 memery built in and 4.11 drivers.
this game got bigger and bigger so i had to adjust to game and that is all you guys with dirty puters are going to haft to do .
Its not the connection causing the lag its in your pc cause you are the one seeing it and you are the one griping about it and you are the one who gets me kicked cause i have the highest pings and then i get mad.and when i am gone you are still having lag and now blaming another person [i have hosted and lisin to you]
Would you take an airplane up with out doing any work to the eng or airframe and then wont to blame the guy flying next to you because you just crashed?????? relly the pc is same and there has been many post telling noobs about and there are lots of host and old flyers who wont there routers and messengers and all the rest of the **** in there pcs .HOW ABOUT COMING UP TO FLY WITH US AND TURN OFF THE REST OF THE WORLD !!!!
Dsl and cable show low pings and you get kicked off rooms -----Go Figure!
Now that i have posted this i will be kicked out of all rooms now ,he he .Why???? i am on land line[dialup] http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

I will always think it should have worked

Jungmann
04-02-2005, 10:35 AM
Second the suggestions posted above. I've found your guide invaluable on a bunch of occasions, most memorably the Windows and puter cr@pcleaning links. I like all your ideas for additions, even though I personally won't use any of them (I'm less than hardcore)--I think they serve the community. As for your ranting, it gives me a sense of who you are, and sense of personality is one of the things I like best about these forums, so roll on. I say, don't cut it--make it longer, but yeah, maybe divide it into easier-accessable sections, with a more complete index.

S.

BuzzU
04-02-2005, 10:54 AM
I use Trend Micro, and i'm interested in what you have to say about it. Can you post it here?

LuckyBoy1
04-02-2005, 11:00 AM
Cotton Dude shows a big point I want to make with the Guide. The point is that you simply cannot BUY your way out of problems. Even the latest and greatest of FX rigs can be run so poorly as to run into the same problems. Yes, a better connection is needed to host large games. However, just to play the game, 26 KB per second is plenty to keep you in the game.

I stink that breaking it up into chapters is needed at this point. I also stink gearing it so it would encourage people to build their own PC would be best as well. However, I find it will be impossible for most to decide what to upgrade and when without first knowing how far they can reasonably push what they have now. Also, if the game ran for me like it did when I first installed it way back when, there would be no way you would ever convince me that the game was worthy of spending a dime on, much less going through what most of us do in the end as it relates to upgrades. I guess we could break up the chapters like...

1) Getting a grip on what you have now. This would include information on internet security and spyware as well as basic system duties like defragging, running a diagnosis and getting the drivers uninstalled correctly so the new driver can be installed correctly as well as proper patch sequence and uninstalling proceedure as well. This section would have a link to the Everest tool so people could finger out what they actually have vs. what they think they have. This section would also explain TeamSpeak and HyperLobby and all that is needed to play online. Also, information on how to better get along in the UBI community will be included as well.

2) How to reformat your computer and how, what, when and why to upgrade and help deciding what order to do it in. I truly believe there is no way you can evaluate how good your current rig is without ever having reformatted the puppy. This section would go into detailed mythbusting explainations of hardware and what it can and cannot do for you. Ideally, I'd like to lay it out so people could look and see what is needed for...

a) Barely play the game effectively with the lowest settings

b) Run eye candy at good settings with maybe 2X AA and AF

c) Run eye candy at Excellent settings with 4X AA and AF

d) Run in prefect mode with eye candy maxed out minus pixel shader 3.blow.

e) Speculate as to what super computer is needed to run pixel shader 3.blow effectively.

This will be of great use for those wanting a wish list of future eye candy capabilities and the power that will be needed to run it.

3) Overclocking. What it takes to overclock and what you get as a result. This one is going to be brutally honest and explode many of the rumors floating around out there as far as what overclocking will and won't do for you.

4) Accessories, goodies and toys like Track IR, Joysticks etc.

5) Explaining the full mission builder. I don't use the quick mission builder because it simply doesn't do the things I want it to do. This much I can explain. However, I want this section to also expplain single missions, quick mission building, campaigns and whatnot and on nall that, I am completely lost and need help.

6 Doing skins and movie making. On all this, I am completely lost as well.

Have I missed anything?

LuckyBoy1
04-02-2005, 11:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BuzzU:
I use Trend Micro, and i'm interested in what you have to say about it. Can you post it here? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, so far this is what I have on the positive side for PC-cillin...

1) It is easy to install and not only does it update early and often, it also audits whether or not you've done needed Cousin Billy updates. I wish all the security programs did that. Norton seems to take an attitude of, "I've taken care of my end and that's all I'll do" without regard to the overall security of the programming.

2) It uninstalls easily and has less of a chance of conflicting with other programming when compared to Norton Internet Security.

3) It found a couple of java driven trojans that Norton Internet Security missed for a time.

4) You can actually call Trend Micro and get a real person on the phone who will help you with problems.

Now for the three things I don't like about PC-cillin...

1) You can't run a scan in safe mode. If I'm wrong about this, someone please let me know.

2) It uninstalls easily and has less of a chance of conflicting with other programming when compared to Norton Internet Security. Hey, wait a minute Luckyboy, you just said that was one of the reasons you liked it! Yes, I'm a two faced b@stid on this one! If I hack into your box, do you really want me to be able to uninstall the programming so easily? Do I really want programming other than the core operating system dictating when it can start running? The answer to both those questions is no! So in the end, it has its good points and its bad points.

3) By itself, and no help from Cousin Billy's pop-up blocker, it is less effective at blocking pop-ups and preventing spyware from getting on my PC than Norton Internet Security is.

BuzzU
04-02-2005, 11:38 AM
Ok thanks. You pretty much came up with what I did. I wondered about the safe mode thing too, because Trend Micro tells you to do it to get rid of some virues. Overall i'm pretty happy with it. I do use the Google popup blocker though. (Google Toolbar)

F19_Ob
04-03-2005, 07:42 AM
Just wanted to say thanks for the guide and links and your effort with it.

Helped me through some issues and alerted me on some things I hadn't thought about.
And the servicepack and safety-issues was a good read.

THNX http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Vacillator
04-03-2005, 10:35 AM
LB, the Guide is great and your suggestions are sound. As for other additions I'm with dieg777 on the online play guide, this would be very useful to a lot of people.
Anyway thanks for all your effort, don't stop http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

joe3rd
04-03-2005, 12:02 PM
Lucky, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
Found your guide up on www.airwafare.com (http://www.airwafare.com)
It was a big help thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Like you I've got Norton and Nortons Internet Security, but I didn't know about the administrator password (have since set) and while I was using spybot in conjuction with Nortons Antiviruis, when I added Adaware se
it seems your advice saved my but again then.
Just wanted to let ya know your not writting in vain there is someone out here reading and takin your advivce.
Thanks Luckyboy^5
Also in closing for us dialup users could you include a link to DAP7 Download Accelerator as with the patches and missions getting bigger at least it will help the dialup users to be able to continue/resume a download
Thanks again Lucky

IAFS_Painter
04-04-2005, 02:01 AM
First off LB, good to see you back, haven't checked community help much while you were out http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thanks for the re-write

"I stink", you think? or you hate the idea?



My 2 pen'th (like 2 cents - but British http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

Missing: a separate links page. You intend including links in the body of the guide. Include useful stuff at the end toohttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sections 5 and 6 should all go into the links page - if you don't know how to do it yourself, send 'em to somebody who does. (Save yourself a lot of writing toohttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

Get people who do these things to recomend the links (eg, I'd suggest linking to Serval's site(s) for skinning tips)
(btw Section 5 (FMB). Does anybody here - apart from me - use MS Excel to assist with FMB?)

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>1) Getting a grip on what you have now.{snip}This section would also explain TeamSpeak and HyperLobby and all that is needed to play online. Also, information on how to better get along in the UBI community will be included as well. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Consider breaking HL and TS into separate pages.

Once HL is set up, AFIK, it doesn't take much maintenance, except - maybe - running an eye over the .ini file to check speeds on new versions. People wont need to look to this as often as the rest of section 1.

On TS, set up a VOI section with TS in two sub-sections; client set-up and that server set-up you requested.
By spliting into VOI, you should be able to add {some new VOI app} when it comes along.
I use TS now; I like it; and, yes, it's flavour of the year, ... but I keep seeing other VOI apps poping up, and I suspect that something else will replace TS, as TS replaced RW.
(ie future proof your guide - apply the same philosophy to your writing as you would to PC maintenance http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

BigBoy01
04-04-2005, 07:34 AM
LuckyBoy1, your present guide is excellant and has helped me get more enjoyment out of this, and other sims as well.

First, with this type of endeavor you can't be too wordy. Those who know it all already don't need your guide, the rest of us need all the information we can get our hands on. We're hungry for the knowledge.

Second, as previously mentioned, graphics in some instances, and numbered, step by steps for some of the more lengthy procedures are always helpful.

Third, " Many of us are NOT into other games and are older type folks who didn't grow up with computers...." Thanks for recognizing and mentioning that! Flight sims are all I'm interested in, SHIII excepted.

Fourth, with respect to the joysticks and Track IR sections there's nothing wrong with having favorite hardware, just indicate so and if you feel you want better balance then solicit additional thought on other hardware your not as familiar with, or partial to.

With respect to power supplies I had to laugh. I didn't come to the computers for fun use until I was in my 40's. Before that I was an audiophile, I still remember handbuilding and modifying "tube" preamps, power amps, and tuners way back when. And, as far as I'm concerned, there is absolutely no argument about having a good, stiff, over rated, stable and clean PS if your going to run electronic circuits/devices of this type. It can't hurt and generally will have a huge impact for the better.

And, thanks for the effort.

LuckyBoy1
04-04-2005, 09:39 AM
Thanks everyone for the kind words. When I write this stuff up, I try to think what is was like not to know how to do this or that. I also remember what it was like to get instructions from some knowledgeable and well intended person that missed some small, picky step and assumed I knew something. I know you can't write out every possible variation, but my intent is to make it as close to being click by click instructions as I can.

I have always believed one of this game's strong points is the ability to play online with the dial-up crowd. I know I'm speaking in general here, but if you restricted this game so dial-up people couldn't join the game, you would end up with a mostly Western European and North American audience that was mostly made up of suburban and urban types of upper middle class means or above. To me, dial-up people are essential to the life blood of this game.

With that in mind, yes, I stink a picture can be worth a thousand words. The challenge is to make the web pages as fast loading as possible and still have at least links to pictures when and if desired. A couple of people have tried to respond to me in the past and gave me instructions, but that was a couple reformat jobs ago and I forgot to save the links. Any ideas?

joe3rd
04-04-2005, 07:02 PM
Lucky,
I just picked up 2 utilities that will make it easier for people to know the Hardware of their system and to Bench Mark their system to find out what is really going on with it.
1st the Hardware detection utilitey (it's free)
http://www.belarc.com/Download.html
It D/L's fast is small in kb's and tells all http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
2nd the Bench Mark utilitey (again is free)
www.PassMark.com (http://www.PassMark.com)
I got the utilitey from Norton Symantec's SystemWorks, but it is a free download and it works good with an option to buy it, If ya don't want to buy it just hit continue when your asked for the user key.
"D/L's fast is small in kb and works great!
I hope this will help people get to know what type of systems they actually have what's on them as far as hardware and how it performing.
As I think if a system is operating efficentley
then we can narrow down the problems to in game tweaks/fixes

Monson74
04-05-2005, 02:53 AM
I like it very much - in fact I recommend it to a lot of people outside this community. There are just one thing I'd like to see explained more thoroughly & that is gfx & mainly extensions: What do they do & how 'heavy' are they on your system. This has become rather confusing the last couple of years & it would be nice if someone could dig into this. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif