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e2michaelb
11-20-2007, 12:23 PM
Just for the h*ll of it, I went out and bought Falcon 4.0 Allied Force for a little change-of-pace from IL2-1946. Much to my surprise, I discovered that the game does not recognize my CH throttle, joystick and rudder pedals as a cooperative group. Rather, it recognizes either the throttle, or the joystick, or the rudder pedals. Bummer! In addition, the game also does not respond to my TrackIR setup, even though the blue light comes on to suggest the game is compatible with it. I figured I could straighten this all out by going to the game's configuration page, but I find nothing related to the above problems. Worse yet, the packaging and manual do not show any support service available. Anyone have any ideas?

e2michaelb
11-20-2007, 12:23 PM
Just for the h*ll of it, I went out and bought Falcon 4.0 Allied Force for a little change-of-pace from IL2-1946. Much to my surprise, I discovered that the game does not recognize my CH throttle, joystick and rudder pedals as a cooperative group. Rather, it recognizes either the throttle, or the joystick, or the rudder pedals. Bummer! In addition, the game also does not respond to my TrackIR setup, even though the blue light comes on to suggest the game is compatible with it. I figured I could straighten this all out by going to the game's configuration page, but I find nothing related to the above problems. Worse yet, the packaging and manual do not show any support service available. Anyone have any ideas?

bolox00
11-20-2007, 12:38 PM
strange as my copy recognises 3 separate controllers and tir.
are you 'patched up'?
http://www.lead-pursuit.com/downloads.htm
otherwise maybe try here
http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/forumdisplay.php?f=73

it certainly makes a change of pace from fb and should give your ch buttons a good workout http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

BuzzU
11-20-2007, 04:42 PM
AF does everything you say it doesn't. Work at a little harder and then enjoy the 700 page manual that just teaches the basics.

Patches. You only need the last one to have them all.

http://www.lead-pursuit.com/downloads.htm

p-11.cAce
11-20-2007, 06:23 PM
Patch it - print the manual...and spend your holiday reading it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Falcon4.0AF is everything a "study" sim of one type of ac should be...I still get a rush just doing the full real engine start procedure- even though it takes 8-10 minutes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Skunk_438RCAF
11-21-2007, 06:55 AM
when you install F4AF, you have an autoupdater in the root folder of your installation. Just click that and it will patch it up to the latest version.

I personnally got tired of F4 because it was just not fun anymore. Its been a while since I played. I tried to get my squadron into it so we could play it online together, but it turns out the multiplayer is plagued with bugs and lag issues.

If you do turn out to like the sim you will never get bored of the dynamic campaign engine.

e2michaelb
11-21-2007, 09:59 AM
Bingo! Thanks much, guys. I downloaded the latest patch and all is good,with the exception of the TrackIR, which moves in click stops rather than smoothly. The primary hat on the throttle works just as well for changing views, especially since the in-cockpit workload trumps the need to look outside very often. It is not like I am trying to track a 300kph bandit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

bolox00
11-21-2007, 11:11 AM
the 'clicks' with tir are because you are in 2d cockpit. try 3d http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif
use both as you think appropriate

Divine-Wind
11-21-2007, 12:50 PM
Yeah, I got F4:AF for my birthday last year. I tried it, and dropped it since the learning curve was just too steep for me right then.
Now I'm working my way in, slowly, and it is pretty fantastic once you can get the hang of things. I'm still quite a ways off from a ramp startup, but at least I know how to move the radar cursors around. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Earlier to day I had quite a dogfight going, a one on one guns-only furball. I managed to shoot him down thrice, and only crashed because I ran out of fuel. Granted, he was a rookie, but it was still fun to watch my laser beam rip into him! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

tagTaken2
11-21-2007, 02:05 PM
The're some alternative patches around, as well. Try searching for Red Viper, or Open Falcon.
I'm giving it a try, and the learning curve is not steep, it's vertical. Memorise teh entire manual before loading the game.
NB, I followed the landing practice mission instructions religiously 6 times, and 6 times I drove straight into the ground/fell into the ground/spun into the ground. Then I tried landing by feel- like I would in Il-2, and haven't had an issue since.

Stew278
11-21-2007, 03:16 PM
Red Viper and Open Falcon are probably more like major mods, rather than just patches. Either way, both seemed less user friendly than the un-modded game in my attempts to use them.

The landing tutorial was kind of frustrating. Landing by feel does seem to be more effective. My biggest error was always pulling my nose up too much when I flared and scraping the tail on the ground. Probably comes from too much time playing WWII sims with tail draggers.

The hardest thing in that game for me was midair refueling. That dang tanker changes course just as I'm almost lined up every time.

e2michaelb
11-23-2007, 12:36 PM
Actually, I bought the original Falcon 4.0 by MicroProse a few years ago, and flew it exclusively. I became very familiar with the term "goat rope". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif (That's kind of the opposite of "Sierra Hotel" in pilot talk.) I actually got to where I could go through the ramp start-up procedure with hardly a look at the check-list; that was a real rush. I finally got frustrated by my inability to cope with the incoming A-to-A missiles and let it go for IL2:FB. Now, I'm back with more patience and TWO great sims to play with. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

JG52_SoraAkuma
11-23-2007, 02:35 PM
Try hitting the #3 key below the F-keys, that works for me.

Skunk_438RCAF
11-23-2007, 04:32 PM
Red Viper and Open Falcon are mods to the original F4, and dont work with F4AF.

Divine-Wind
11-23-2007, 05:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Skunk_438RCAF:
Red Viper and Open Falcon are mods to the original F4, and dont work with F4AF. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's what I heard. But there is a mod out somewhere for F4AF that lets you fly all the planes (Albiet with the F-16 cockpit), but I forgot where it is.

Skunk_438RCAF
11-23-2007, 05:54 PM
Its Red Viper. I was thinking FreeFalcon when I posted earlier.

But RV is hard to come by, its an unofficial mod so it cant be distritbuted freely.

BuzzU
11-24-2007, 08:58 AM
RV can be put over AF, but you lose AF when you do it. It's done by those who don't have the original F4 CD.

Finding RV is easy. Go to the Free Falcon web site.

tagTaken2
11-24-2007, 11:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stew278:
The hardest thing in that game for me was midair refueling. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hear you. I just can't resist that big fat stupid target.