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LEBillfish
05-11-2010, 08:07 AM
Hi All;

I'm doing a bit of research wherein I need some help unable to find what I need from the allied side of things...

What I'm looking for are actual combat reports for the date of December 21st, 1943, about the Arawe, New Britain area.......I'm thinking those I need pertain to the 348th Fighter Group, possibly the 340th Fighter Squadron (though could be one of the other squadrons in the 348th) all P-47 squadrons, and just to be safe, would like to see any from the various P-38 squadrons on that day.

What I'm not looking for is basic "this day in history" combat chronology sort of things, yet the actual reports as made by the pilots....I know they exist as I have found them for many other bomb groups and the like, yet the actual written report supplied by pilots or their leaders.

What I'm looking for is very direct.....One pilot will report attacking a fighter (though may misname the type), then is attacked himself (though may not know it) by another of the same type, to have a second allied fighter clear him making hits on the second Japanese Fighter and will most likely call it a kill (though that pilot flew some distance).....Besides determining the pilots, I'm most interested in and seeingly inconsequential information such as the color of the aircraft, markings and so on.

Again:
Actual Combat Report
Most Likely 348th FG, 340th/341st/342nd/460th FS who flew P-47s
December 21st, 1943
Arawe, New Britain

Thanks for any help you can render,

K2

LEBillfish
05-11-2010, 08:07 AM
Hi All;

I'm doing a bit of research wherein I need some help unable to find what I need from the allied side of things...

What I'm looking for are actual combat reports for the date of December 21st, 1943, about the Arawe, New Britain area.......I'm thinking those I need pertain to the 348th Fighter Group, possibly the 340th Fighter Squadron (though could be one of the other squadrons in the 348th) all P-47 squadrons, and just to be safe, would like to see any from the various P-38 squadrons on that day.

What I'm not looking for is basic "this day in history" combat chronology sort of things, yet the actual reports as made by the pilots....I know they exist as I have found them for many other bomb groups and the like, yet the actual written report supplied by pilots or their leaders.

What I'm looking for is very direct.....One pilot will report attacking a fighter (though may misname the type), then is attacked himself (though may not know it) by another of the same type, to have a second allied fighter clear him making hits on the second Japanese Fighter and will most likely call it a kill (though that pilot flew some distance).....Besides determining the pilots, I'm most interested in and seeingly inconsequential information such as the color of the aircraft, markings and so on.

Again:
Actual Combat Report
Most Likely 348th FG, 340th/341st/342nd/460th FS who flew P-47s
December 21st, 1943
Arawe, New Britain

Thanks for any help you can render,

K2

ElAurens
05-11-2010, 10:52 AM
Campaign research?

LEBillfish
05-11-2010, 12:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ElAurens:
Campaign research? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Negative.....An update to some research I did;

Some of you may recall a post made on my own forum entitled "The Hero of Wewak...Maybe...", wherein and undiscovered single photograph of a Crashed Ki-61 Ko smacked so much of the described results of crash that ended the life of Major Shogo Takeuchi, of the 68th Hikousentai, 14th Hikoudan, that it was looked at in detail with associated background research.

http://78sentai.org/78V/albums/Ktu/HoW3/T5.jpg

That post can be found here: http://78sentai.org/forum/view...hp?f=3&t=367&start=0 (http://78sentai.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=367&start=0) , yet unfortunately when all said and done left us with some good historical information, yet past that a lot of speculation and "what if's" as to whether or not this was Takeuchi's aircraft.....Well Mr. Cris Shapan who generously supplied the photograph roughly a year ago took some time sorting through numerous albums and photographs......and lo and behold, there is also a port side view of the very same aircraft, along with a few other photographs, and best of all his uncle's own personal log book explaining how he obtained the "captured" photographs.

Unlike many photographs we see of Hiens, these were clearly taken by Japanese personnel on the scene of a crash that seemed to stir up just a little too much interest in my opinion to simply be discounted. The facts revealed by this new information and photos I'm willing to share at this time are as follows;

1. The location of the wreck is definitely in the New Guinea / New Britain area of operations taking us one step closer to determining if Takeuchi's.
2. The associated photographs confirm it is in New Guinea.
3. The Log book confirms the photographs were likely captured in Hollandia, no more then one day after it's "announced" fall (as there were still troops in the area).
4. The new Hien Photograph confirms without a doubt that it is a 14th Hikoudan Hien.
5. I'll be asking for your help in making all final determinations.

The photographs supplied via scans by Mr. Shapan captured by his uncle Mr. A. Berkovitz while working as a radioman in a PBY "Black Cat" are in very high resolution and detail (most 7-10Mb, 300pix/inch, 7,000+pixel widths). Some of the detail is absolutly stunning. The following some of what we'll have to work with reduced in size:

http://78sentai.org/78V/albums/Ktu/HoW3/T1.jpg

http://78sentai.org/78V/albums/Ktu/HoW2/prev_Log_April44.jpg

http://78sentai.org/78V/albums/Ktu/HoW3/T2.jpg

To give you some idea of the resolution, a crop of that last photo shown below is by itself over 2,200 pixels square, at 300pix/inch:

http://78sentai.org/78V/albums/Ktu/HoW3/T3.jpg

They though unrelated to the topic in and of themselves add some great insight into the painting practices of in this case the 14th Sentai bomber group. Mr. Lansdale even noted something of interest right off.

http://78sentai.org/78V/albums/Ktu/HoW3/T4.jpg

Ki-21-IIb No. 45 is using No. 33's "(wind) gust bracket" if I understand Mr. Lansdale's statement correctly.

Yet none of that the point is it, all related however in that it helps confirm the second Hien photograph which DOES bring us closer to determining if this is indeed the end of the last flight of the "Hero of Wewak, Major Shogo Takeuchi".

http://78sentai.org/78V/albums/Ktu/HoW3/T6.jpg

Lets find out....I hope to have an update post made in the above thread in roughly a week so I can gather more supporting information.

K2

JtD
05-11-2010, 01:39 PM
I wish I could help, but all I can say is thank you for sharing. These are indeed great photographs.

berg417448
05-11-2010, 02:29 PM
I have not noticed any combat reports on their site but perhaps these folks could put you in the right direction if you contact them:

http://www.afhra.af.mil/

LEBillfish
05-12-2010, 09:38 AM
Well thanks for the help all yet still not finding what I need....any help appreciated.

K2

Boosher
05-15-2010, 11:55 PM
Almost all of these records are available at the National Archives II building in College Park, MD.

LEBillfish
05-16-2010, 11:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Boosher:
Almost all of these records are available at the National Archives II building in College Park, MD. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Kewl, thanks, I'll make the 1,000+ mile round trip to make a forum post to share previously unseen information while others have what I seek (a single sentance) in hand they could post, it publically available and had information.

Not being a jerk, yet we should all know where to get the info as though the first person ever looking for it.......I had hoped/know, some already have it and am asking them to share publically available information so I can share what was previously private (available to only 1 person in the world) information.

K2

LEBillfish
05-21-2010, 08:33 AM
As a side note I'd like to expand the search for allied information to also include any reports or even snippets of a "B-25 which on April 28th, 1944 while either attacking Wakde Is. or the Hollandia area took hits, and was forced to land on Sentanai strip though it was still in contention. That crew was subsequently picked up by a "Black Cat" PBY-5 by it landing on Sentani lake, and leaving out the next day".

Thanks for any help!

K2

LEBillfish
05-26-2010, 09:38 AM
A "preliminary" update has been made to the above thread.

While investigating the source of the photograph suspected as possibly being Takeuchi's, the tale as to how they were acquired turned out to be just as interesting and even better documented........So though a bit more fluff perhaps then what is needed to establish what we're actually seeing in the Hien photo, it at leats documents sources and confirms some details, and makes a simple photograph actually even more interesting.

http://78sentai.org/forum/view...&t=367&start=0#p2413 (http://78sentai.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=367&start=0#p2413)

The final update (examining the new photographs in detail) to come in a subsequent post, plus some additional information as to VPB-34 for reference to be made within a week.


K2

LEBillfish
05-30-2010, 08:38 AM
The Primary Update has been made.......additional information to the preliminary update and primary will be added asap.

Feel free to comment and help refine the thread.

http://78sentai.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=367

K2

JtD
05-30-2010, 10:09 AM
I can only comment: Very interesting to read through it. A lot of attention to a lot of detail. Guess I have to read it again to catch up with all of it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif