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JaymanRSC
12-02-2004, 05:28 PM
Just wonderin how his sim is doin in the opening months is there been any info on this at all?

also wonderin.. i live in the united states and watch discovery wings channel alot and have been lookin for the pacific fighters ads and have YET to see one ...

was this just for another country other than the usa if so why whud this be?

at any rate if i get an answer to any of the questions or not dosent really matter.
seems like a really great time to be into pc simulation games i just hope to see it live up to its full potential.

comin from an avid sim racer ive seen alot of seperation among the genral communitys of the genra... and i beleave it to be from lack of genral way to exsperince the game ie(sanctioned leagues from the game developers or from another commited 3rd party )

preferable from the game makers or it leads to the problem in sim racing now way to many leagues and not enough players... and abosuletly no pleasent place for a begginer to go

gotta shorten this up a bit i know...just want to hear some of u guys ideas on this subject for an air combat sim??? Where shud it go next ?? i know a sanctioned il2 league is out of the question (aside from pylon racin) what about a 1c\maddox sanction VEF Of some sort ?
or BOB http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ps there is a racing sim company about to do just what i was talkin about GET READY!

JaymanRSC
12-02-2004, 05:28 PM
Just wonderin how his sim is doin in the opening months is there been any info on this at all?

also wonderin.. i live in the united states and watch discovery wings channel alot and have been lookin for the pacific fighters ads and have YET to see one ...

was this just for another country other than the usa if so why whud this be?

at any rate if i get an answer to any of the questions or not dosent really matter.
seems like a really great time to be into pc simulation games i just hope to see it live up to its full potential.

comin from an avid sim racer ive seen alot of seperation among the genral communitys of the genra... and i beleave it to be from lack of genral way to exsperince the game ie(sanctioned leagues from the game developers or from another commited 3rd party )

preferable from the game makers or it leads to the problem in sim racing now way to many leagues and not enough players... and abosuletly no pleasent place for a begginer to go

gotta shorten this up a bit i know...just want to hear some of u guys ideas on this subject for an air combat sim??? Where shud it go next ?? i know a sanctioned il2 league is out of the question (aside from pylon racin) what about a 1c\maddox sanction VEF Of some sort ?
or BOB http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ps there is a racing sim company about to do just what i was talkin about GET READY!

Chuck_Older
12-02-2004, 05:37 PM
Units moved per store or per country? How would we really know? We just play the sim...the accountants at 1C:Maddox don't post much...maybe somebody 'in the know' would be able to give some numbers. But, I wonder: what makes you ask?

The Discovery Wings promo was in the UK

I think that sanctioned Leagues work well in racing sims. In combat sims...not so much I think

The whole Il2 Forgotten Battles/Pacific Fighters series is reaching it's 'end' so to speak. the game maker and the developers are conituing to support it very much, but the succesor to the series is already a Work in progress, so I doubt very much the Il2FB series will ever see it's "full potential" because the game engine, although good, is frankly nearly obsolete, so the new engine will be used in 1C:Maddox Game's combat flight sim Battle of Britain. that title is the one which is projected to really make combat flight sim heaven.

One big problem with the FB series is that it was designed for tactical, relatively low level situations. Some high altitude modelling is a bit 'off', and other limitations of the game engine reveal themselves with further updates and additions (which we are still getting). This alone makes the FB series unlikely to be able to see anything like it's full potential. the game engine is good, it was just impossible to foresee these problems cropping up when it was made

Athosd
12-02-2004, 05:43 PM
The main thing that keeps this sim community together is the closed flight models. Where ever you go - be it Billy Bob's LAN party or VEF, same game version equals same flight models.
The developers stay in touch too, and will listen to reasonable arguments with proof - this has resulted in many tweaks and improvements over the years.

Cheers

Athos

JaymanRSC
12-02-2004, 06:22 PM
yeah sorry for the vague post read it agin does seem kinda boring...what ya expspect from a guy that likes to drive around in circles for hours at a time on a pc?

to clear things up a bit just wonderin in genral how the game was doin didn really think id get a clear answer on that one..just courius


and just wanting to talk about the future of air combat sims.here some ideas as to where it could go next... not that il2fb pf is a bad or dying concept just whats ahead

sum ideas ive have to get a better mix of the dogfight server and coop server
whud be very cool if could set the game up to randomly generate a small scale war ... u know ai planes goin at it and give players the chance to...jump in at mission time 1500 hours 10 b17 from x airport raid target x

escorted by x number of well u get the idea
just blowin wind i know but the limits our endless (i know its alot more complicated then what i mentioned abouve we non computer type people probley have no idea)

ps PUT PF ON THE WINGS CHANNEL IN THE US? why not? makin money is also part of the goal here right 1c? ubi ? (Probley UBI)

maybe ubi wont be on board no more when BoB comes out well see ? paid download maybe?

of yeah one more thing (sorry)if simulations games tend to not sell nearly as many copies as other less than mentionable games why not raise the price tag to make the time well spent ?
dont think pc simmers are dedicated enough ?(shame)

JR_Greenhorn
12-02-2004, 06:36 PM
Generally, it feels like many around here would gladly pay for the updates we get for free, but there sure was a lot of complaining when Aces Expansion Pack was released, and the Pacific Fighters release was a bit of a disaster in some reagards.

If you are wondering about the future of flight sims from this company, it has already been announced. That's why some of the replies you get to that question may seem odd. I don't feel like repeating the whole story about BoB, but ask and someone else surely will.

If you have ideas that would improve gameplay, the Oleg's Ready Room forum used to be a place you could go to share them, but it's not so friendly in there anymore.

One topic that generates pretty major interest around here is the prospect of a Tank Sim from Oleg. I don't know if he has any interest in doing one, but many here want him to. If you like racing sims, that might apeal to you too, but don't hold your breath for it.

Snootles
12-02-2004, 07:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I doubt very much the Il2FB series will ever see it's "full potential" because the game engine, although good, is frankly nearly obsolete <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually I'd take that as a sign that it's nearing the limit of its full potential. Either way, I hope PF continues to receive work and BoB redefines combat sims. I have faith both will happen.

Athosd
12-02-2004, 11:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JR_Greenhorn:

If you have ideas that would improve gameplay, the Oleg's Ready Room forum used to be a place you could go to share them, but it's not so friendly in there anymore. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I noticed that too - seems to be a posse of malcontents loitering there who take every opportunity to snipe at Oleg and anyone who is actually enjoying the game.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JR_Greenhorn:
One topic that generates pretty major interest around here is the prospect of a Tank Sim from Oleg. I don't know if he has any interest in doing one, but many here want him to. If you like racing sims, that might apeal to you too, but don't hold your breath for it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its not a dedicated tank sim - but isn't Oleg's company developing a highly detailed WW2 RTS game?

Cheers

Athos

JR_Greenhorn
12-02-2004, 11:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Athosd:
I noticed that too - seems to be a posse of malcontents loitering there who take every opportunity to snipe at Oleg and anyone who is actually enjoying the game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I still feel new to this game because I showed up just before FB was released. Even still, I remember the days when ORR was a place you could share an idea, expect support and constructive critisizm, and if you were lucky, a response from Oleg himself. What ever happened to the good ole days?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Athosd:
Its not a dedicated tank sim - but isn't Oleg's company developing a highly detailed WW2 RTS game? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>They were, but has it been released? I don't even know. It sounds like it would be worth a try. Oleg doesn't usually disappoint.

I'm pretty sure that RTS is where a lot of the recent ground vehicle additions to FB have been coming from. If only they had "flyable" cockpits. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Chuck_Older
12-03-2004, 10:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snootles:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I doubt very much the Il2FB series will ever see it's "full potential" because the game engine, although good, is frankly nearly obsolete <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually I'd take that as a sign that it's nearing the limit of its full potential. Either way, I hope PF continues to receive work and BoB redefines combat sims. I have faith both will happen. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You may have a point there

JaymanRSC
12-03-2004, 12:34 PM
hi guys thanks for tryin to answer a few of my questions ... guess u guys assume i havnt been playin fb very long because of my # of post ...

but ive been around since the first il2 demo just never really felt the need to post in this forums but with all the recent bickering i seen on the forums (this stuff still blows me away with the stuff these guys can come up with to complain about)i felt compeled to see ideas as to what guys think a air combat sim shud be
aside from the dogfight server or the coop that we have now thats really my main question in this topic

ok that cleared up il say somethin about all the naggin happing in this forum... like itl do any good i know just to blow some more wind tho..

i havnt seen this among any other sim comunitty
at the level its at in this forum anyways it happens everywhere just not high leval some of these guys are takin it too

i think we all understand that video games will not and are not goin to be perfect... u want the real deal go join the airforce...or make the perfect sim yourself

seems some tend to forget they only paid what rougly 100 bucks on the fb aep pf money well spent in most opions but some people act like theyve paid 10,000 for it.

sad part about this is there people thats sold there sims for alot more than 10,000 dollors and some of them arent hafe of what il2 series is and will be

this isnt a extremly exspensive miltary simulator.so if plane x dosent perform within 5%
of blah blah blah ive seen a thosand post like this...take step back and look at what oleg has givin us for less than 120 bucks and go try to find something better U WONT

this isnt harpin on people that have legitmate criticism about the sim i think we all can tell the differnce between constructive critcism
and bein overlly eager to find something wrong in the sim to prove WHAT? sims arent perfect? NO @#$# this isnt the year 2100

buy the game play the sim and have fun

Troll2k
12-03-2004, 12:54 PM
I do not know about sales figures but there has been a number tossed around for illegal downloads.How they arrived at this I do no know.That number being 70,000.

At least a portion of that is money lost to Ubi mostly and to 1c also.(I think they get a smaller piece of the sales price).

I am sure some were downloaded because of the delay in release in different countries and that games were bought by those same people once it became available.

Probably will not know until Ubi's annual stock report.But then again accountants have a way of massaging numbers.